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Storming The Barricades In Washington DC [Pic+]

Hits: 5187 | Rating: (1.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14494 Posts
Sunday, October 06, 2013 3:58:05 PM
How did this Guy ever get to be president???



5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25829 Posts
Sunday, October 06, 2013 1:01:39 PM
@QueenZira: Because Democrats NEVER benefit from gerrymandering? is this what you're claiming? If so? LOZ!

Again I repeat myself: 62% do NOT WANT IT "as is", with me so far?

Repubs: Want to change it.
Obama: Not even willing to talk about it. NO CHANGE.

You get it yet? WHO is representing the will of the MAJORITY here?

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Sunday, October 06, 2013 10:54:53 AM
5cats, you're talking about the House they couldn't have held onto were it not for gerrymandering?

And we've been over this before too, changed =/= "repealed" so we can throw ourselves on the tender mercies of the insurance companies again.

Yeah but Teahadiis have 1 out of three levers of power in Washington so the people have spoken, obviously...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25829 Posts
Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:30:24 AM
We had a big fight about policy in 2012 called the Election...

@QueenZira: Oh, you mean the election where the Republicans controlled the House? THAT election?

Funny: The majority of Americans: 62% According to @Squrlz4's link (in another thread) want it CHANGED.
But OBAMA says NO! NEVER!

So obviously, it's the 38% MINORITY who are the "hostage takers" correct?? That would be... Obama and the Democrats!

Your own logic: You should use it sometimes...

Keggar
Male, 50-59, Western US
 54 Posts
Sunday, October 06, 2013 6:50:16 AM
How did this Guy ever get to be president??? Wake up America!

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1909 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 4:37:12 PM
Squirlz4sale you are quite the wordsmith.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 3:12:20 PM
@OldOllie: With every passing day, I see your disposition becoming more gentle, sweet, and forgiving.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14494 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 2:31:34 PM
The Republicans have passed bills funding every single function of the federal government EXCEPT Obamacare. It's the Democrats who have shut down the government because they can't shove Obamacare down our throats, even though the vast majority of Americans DON'T WANT IT.

The thing is, they're aren't "shutting down the government" in any sense. That nasty little prick Obama is picking and choosing which parts to shut down to inflict as much pain and suffering on the American people as he possibly can. He's punishing us because we voted for Republicans to represent us in congress. How else can you explain this:

"It's a cheap way to deal with the situation," an angry Park Service ranger in Washington says of the harassment. "We've been told to make life as difficult for people as we can. It's disgusting."

Obama and Reed are loathsome, despicable, cold, heartless bastards. I hope they burn in hell.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10287 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 2:03:31 PM
ow do you expect to attract more people to the R message (assuming there is one) when that message is steeped in fear and paranoia and communicated through secret handshakes, smoke signals and French Klingon?


Honestly I am a registered Republican, strictly for practical reasons. If firebreathing Neocons applied the RINO label against me I'd where it proudly, because then I'd actually want to cut the budget and not just alter programs to give themselves or their buddies bigger payouts. On the other hand, look who's talking, that's exactly how Obamacare was marketed, that's how gun control is being marketed, that's how cap and trade is being marketed. That's what govt likes to do whenever it seeks to expand executive power or the welfare state. Doesn't matter the political party, the premise is generally bull5h17.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3713 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 1:08:48 PM
"How many seats in the House or the Senate does the Tea Party hold?"

It doesn't matter how many seats they actually hold. Believe it or not, the way the House works is actually quite simple for a minority of the members (tea party) to manipulate the system.

I came across this a few days ago, How 30 House Republicans Are Forcing The Obamacare Fight. It explains exactly what is going on in The House of Representatives.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 1:04:20 PM
Cajun you're still living in that alternate universe. How do you expect to attract more people to the R message (assuming there is one) when that message is steeped in fear and paranoia and communicated through secret handshakes, smoke signals and French Klingon?

Not being part of the exchanges forces people to do as we've been doing, the emergency room for acute problems and better hope you have no longstanding issues. And of course everyone else will pay more for that uninsured visit and your resulting bankruptcy.

Progress is good my friend, go with the flow.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:56:12 PM
5cats the Tea party has a majority in the gerrymandered dysfunctional House, which is why congress is dysfunctional. We had a big fight about policy in 2012 called the Election, they lost and are now taking hostages to force a minoritarian Xmas list (and a pony!) on everyone else.

Taking hostages is not the way our Democracy works, it's the last ditch effort of the pitifully desperate.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10287 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:55:27 PM
everything that says Congress is not exempt


Yes they AREN'T supposed to be exempt, they are (illegally and in direct contradiction to what has been written) by the grace of EXECUTIVE FIAT which Obama isn't supposed to do but did anyway. We HAVE been paying attention YOU HAVEN'T.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10287 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:48:58 PM
HOW have the Repubs broken the US Constitution?


Just to be clear: Bush DID break the constitution, so did the GOP when they pushed for the idiotic PATRIOT Act. But that's a previous administration, the GOP is not violating the constitution in this episode of political theater.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10287 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:45:28 PM
They have just about the best rate of insured citizens in any state


I suggest you shouldn't have too much confidence in those numbers. For one thing, generally people would continue to buy health regardless of whatever policy is in place. On the other hand the both Romneycare, and the way the survey was conducted, encouraged people to lie about their coverage status. Any gains in insured people due to Romneycare would be overstated at best. On the other hand being insured does not guarantee access, on top of which the problem IS a third party payer system. Expanding that, like Romneycare, would encourage MORE people to lean on someone else to pay for their healthcare.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25829 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:44:21 PM
@QueenZira: the Tea Party? Really?

#1 How many seats in the House or the Senate does the Tea Party hold?

#2 Since when do US Citizens NOT have a RIGHT to question their government & representatives?

#3 Polls =/= Policy. Facts > Opinions

@madest: So all those times the Democrats shut things down? THEY were terrorists too? Seriously man, just... wth? HOW have the Repubs broken the US Constitution? Show me or STFU.

I know for a fact Obama has broken it MANY TIMES and y'all seem to think that's OK...

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:31:58 PM
You folks are gonna have to do something about that reality proof bubble called conservative media too, if you're ever going to be a national party again. (Fox, talk radio, Drudge) We've told you again and again, we've provided the links and everything that says Congress is not exempt, and they're not. But you continue to believe the opposite, because everybody else is out to get you, you can only trust your own and why would you need anybody else really? You've confirmed it amongst yourselves, therefore it must be true. Kinda like Death Panels. Or killing Granny.

We need a sane opposition party in this country to make it work, and the fact that Rs are now essentially the party of colicky paste eating toddlers is not helping, to put it mildly. No wonder the rest of the world is gawping.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10287 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:23:25 PM
Republicans in the house are traitors who should be tried for sedition. We have have a constitution they took an oath to uphold.


What about Obama repeatedly breaking the constitution like Bush did? What about Obama unilaterally altering HIS SIGNATURE LEGISLATION, to give Congress exemption from it? Or are you so partisan that you honestly believe it's only politics when Republicans filibuster and not Democrats?

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:20:18 PM
Cajun this is a working policy, it has worked in Mass. to stunning success. They have just about the best rate of insured citizens in any state, it worked so well in fact that Romney made it his signature accomplishment in the race for Mass. gov. Before it became automatically bad becuase Obama decided he liked it too.

Now Obama's liberal base (HI! *waves enthusiastically*) wanted Single Payer and we were ignored (again) for 2 reasons, 1. Blue Dog conservadems in the class of '09 and 2. Dems don't care for their base, in fact they go out of their way to Punch the Hippie every chance they get. Would I have preferred better? Yes. But this will do.

In the future that's going to change. And really herein is the key difference between the parties, Reps cower before their base and Dems ignore theirs.

madest
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6463 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:18:58 PM
Republicans in the house are traitors who should be tried for sedition. We have have a constitution they took an oath to uphold.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10287 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 12:07:13 PM
It's a two-way street Zira, I don't doubt the Republicans are playing politics. But so is Obama, he had plenty of time on his hands, before Ted Kennedy's death, to craft an ACTUAL WORKING POLICY. Not resurrect old dysfunctional Republican ideas (see Romneycare) to make an even more dysfunctional Frankenpolicy. As it stands both sides are entrenched in a mudslinging contest to energize their respective bases. No one's really interested fixing problems.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13471 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:22:38 AM
You've now taken to calling a political party worse than religious fanatic murdering terrorists(like Obama) and expect the people to think it's not the Democratic leader that are behaving like children throwing a tantrum too??

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13471 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:19:05 AM
If John Stewart put his nose any further up Obamas ass you'd see him in his eyes.....

Problem is he hasn't done anything good against those mullahs either.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:16:13 AM
"If it turns out that president Obama can make a deal with the most intransigent, hardline, unreasonable totalitarian mullahs in the world, but not with republicans, maybe he's not the problem."-Jon Stewart

*Drops the mic*

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13471 Posts
Saturday, October 05, 2013 11:15:32 AM
If it was the big bad tea party that closed this then why doesn't Obama make a statement and reopen it... That should tell you right there who closed it.

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