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Christian Nation: A Novel [Pic+]

Hits: 5240 | Rating: (1.5) | Category: Misc. | Added by: 5Cats
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:02:31 PM
He was really a "utopianist". He always wanted a perfect balance between Capitalism and Collectivism, etc etc.


"Capitalism leads to dole queues, the scramble for markets, and war. Collectivism leads to concentration camps, leader worship, and war. There is no way out of this unless a planned economy can somehow be combined with the freedom of the intellect, which can only happen if the concept of right and wrong is restored to politics."

He basically wanted to have his cake and eat it, too. Wouldn't it be nice if we could just strategically balance it all out?

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:56:59 PM
QueenZira, don't be weird. He described himself as many different things. However, he never described himself as a Socialist in commonly understood definition of the word (both among the laymen and academia). I wrote my Master's thesis from Columbia University on Socialism. I know this shiite.

In terms of Socialism, he is most accurately described as a "Libertarian Socialist". But this is leaving the bounds of Socialism altogether, really. I do know that this is an ideology I know you would hate. Not enough control for people like you. Here's his quote:

"The real division is not between conservatives and revolutionaries but between authoritarians and libertarians"

And here is a quote for people like you:

"as with the Christian religion, the worst advertisement for Socialism is its adherents."

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:46:12 PM
I can't believe you guys are afraid of these Christians. You do know that they are all like 50 years old and talk like: "Golly gee dad, that sure was great!"

I could literally think of 5 different groups that would be more likely to trigger a civil war or sectarian conflict.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:46:10 PM
Caribou barbie has been old news since '08, let's leave her on the trash heap of history.

Bravo, Orwell WAS a socialist and before you wet yourself over that term perhaps you should go actually look up the meaning of that word.

Crakr, you think we're going to get more conservative in the future? And just where are these hoards of frightened angry old white people at? (hint, it's that great big gated community in the sky or you know that easier to visit gated community with all the nifty little stone markers in it).

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:43:40 PM
Crakr, that's awesome how you just turned the tables on them like that. They really hate that.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16906 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:30:52 PM
"Democrats don't make laws that discriminate."

Really? They've been caught using the IRS to discriminate against Tea Party groups, They've used SWAT teams to terrorize organic farms, They've used the DOJ to prosecute a hispanic man that shot a thug in self-defense. I could go on and on, but think I've refuted your statement fully.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4170 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:20:40 PM
5Cats, I'm not the one who started talking politics in here! Or spreading lies. I'm stating facts to counter lies that others have stated, and I will be happy to delete my posts if the lies are deleted! I've got no problem with that!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24423 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:13:43 PM
I will probably be deleted quickly...

Not at all @Nageki! I've been asked (accused!) that a dozen times!
I care because everything the USA does? It effects Canada a LOT!
The USA is the 500 pound gorilla we Canadians live next to, we keep a CLOSE EYE on it!
So when I see y'all DESTROYING YOURSELVES I am alarmed! Horrified even!

5Cats, Democrats don't make laws that discriminate.

@SmagBoy1: Are you IMPLYING that Republicans DO?

How does Obamacare (a 100% All-Dem Law) NOT discriminate?

WTF are you even talking about? This is a thread about a FICTIONAL BOOK! You're spouting Pro-Obama LIES & PROPOGANDA??? Cheesus!

How's that DEBT doing? The one Obama promised NEVER to raise? What? Huh?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16906 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 4:02:33 PM
There is no "faith-based civil war" in America. That's not to say there is no media battle for the predominate culture in America, because there is.

There will never be an actual "Civil War" in America again. I believe we learned our lesson about that 150 years ago.

Besides, we've gone through these cultural swings before and will continue to. After this last hard swing to left has failed miserably, I do suspect they'll be a swing back to the right soon.

Nageki
Male, 30-39, Western US
 110 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:57:09 PM
I'm going to say this one more time, I will probably be deleted quickly, but I don't care. @5cats, why do you care about American politics so much when you're a Canadian? I've never understood that... Canada is way more liberal than the US. Even more liberal than the US liberals I'd say...

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4170 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:51:04 PM
5Cats, Democrats don't make laws that discriminate. They don't make laws based on one specific religion. As for things being worse off, things as *significantly* better then when BHO took office! What do you means worse? The market is up, way up. Industrial and production indexes have improved every quarter for the last seven quarters. Real estate is up from it's low point in 2008 in every single major market. Unemployment is down, income is up and BHO has seen the ACA passed, DOMA defeated, signed presidential orders mandated fair treatment of homosexual partners in hospital visitation and health advocacy, has pulled the vast majority of troops out of Iraq and many out of Afghanistan.

Has he been perfect? No. Not at all. But he's done a great deal of good. You forget how bad it was.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24423 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:47:27 PM
USA Today Review Here

"But as a novel, Christian Nation falls flat. Its characters, both fictional and real-life politicians, are mere plot devices who give speeches."

Remember: this 'novel' is set in the year 2029! It's Science Fiction ffs...


5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24423 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:42:10 PM
leftist "fapping fodder" at it's finest!

Just ignore what the Democrats have ACTUALLY DONE for the past 5 years and PRETEND Sarah Palin would do worse things!
Of course John McCain is still alive & well...

Because this book will be taken literally by so many leftists? I weep for the USA's future.

Oh look! @SmagBoy1's comment confirms my sorrow!

Yes there IS @SmagBoy1! Obama & the Democrats VS everyone else! Worship BHO or die!

HUGE EXERT HERE So you can sample this masterpiece for yourself!

Study guide! With Video Trailer! (not kidding!)

Pooptart19
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2274 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:30:13 PM
Palin spearheading a fundamentalist takeover of America? Oh, please.

Bachmann, on the other hand, with her nutty dominionism...

TruTenrMan
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2565 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:20:54 PM
I agree, SmagBoy1... already a war.

Oh, also, Palin will never run for office again. Even if she did, she wouldn't win the Republican ticket.

Bravosmith
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 45 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 3:17:12 PM
This is a rhetorical response to the recent popularity of George Orwell's book 1984. The difference is, in 1984 Socialism is the root of evil. With the rise of Socialism in America, it only makes sense to attack Conservatives in an effort for long term "re-education"... kinda like what Orwell said would happen in his book! Open your eyes America! Before its too late...

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4170 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:59:39 PM
Is there not currently a faith-based civil war in America?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24423 Posts
Wednesday, August 21, 2013 2:52:50 PM
Link: Christian Nation: A Novel [Pic+] [Rate Link] - Could a Sarah Palin presidency spark a faith-based civil war in America? (Not kidding)

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