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'Liberal Media' My Ass! [Pic+]

Hits: 7400 | Rating: (2.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: chalket
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richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 5:04:53 PM
(cont)
...same reason.

Secondly, I agree with most sentiments here that the TV news is has a heavy liberal bias, while Radio news has a major conservative slant. Infact 51% to 90% of any news outlets audience claim they see such a bias.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 5:02:54 PM
"I see, so you DID pull it out of your ass. Just so we all understand where your data comes from..."

No the " the age of the viewers, the reasons they watch, and the ratings for each" are separate categories that are listed and polled. The study even says "younger people spend so much less time with the news than older people."

But if I need to show you the number fine. 43% of the Daily show audience and 53% of the Colberts show audience watch for entertainment purposes, not in-depth reporting. Their audience is made 41% of the daily shows and 53% of the Colbert reports audience are between 18-29 years of age. Those are the numbers from the Pew research center not my ass.


When you look at networks with older age groups like FOX and MSNBC. Even though 5% more young people watch Fox compared to MSNBC, 13% of MSNBC's audience only watches for the entertainment value compared to the 5% of FOX's audience that watches for the sa

papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 579 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 10:09:22 AM
Oh please! One of the main things libs do is treat your opinion like your a total nutcase. Basically this says if you believe in a liberal media bias you are a complete lunatic. Classic lefty tactics 101. Of course there is liberal media bais; it's freakin' everywhere! Anyone wanna catch that Hillary movie being put out by NBC next year? It's not biased at all, honest!

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 8:42:24 AM
Blacks make up a majority in prison for a good reason their culture embraces being a peice of crap and no one speaks up about it just points the finger.


Even that's not entirely true. Don't get me wrong it's a significant fraction, but another part is that they can't afford same quality legal defense like whites can for similar offenses. All-in-all the disparity can't just be chalked up to one "particular" factor. It's multi-causal.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 6:21:50 AM
In 2011, according to FBI statistics, whites accounted for 69.2% of arrests.


Lets talk about bias see like this arrests do not equal a felony or jailtime it's playing with the numbers. Blacks make up a majority in prison for a good reason their culture embraces being a peice of crap and no one speaks up about it just points the finger.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 6:16:08 AM
Here we see 5-Cats forgetting that 95% of all economic problems come from 2 very unwinnable wars a Christian madman told lies to start.


And here we see a lemming refusing to acknowledge his messiah is not stopping one of those wars probably because there's a good reason behind it. Along with that whole increase in drone strikes in other countries.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 6:00:06 AM
Cause they handled the Trayvon Martin case so well... they also give such an unbiased opinion on firearms... the list is unending really.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Monday, August 12, 2013 5:57:49 AM
Oh it chalket ROFL!!! Ya except that they're owned by the Dems.... So you see Fox as totally biased and see no bias with those one whew someone drank the kool aid!

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1962 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:44:37 PM
Here we see 5-Cats forgetting that 95% of all economic problems come from 2 very unwinnable wars a Christian madman told lies to start. We still blame Bush,but short of forcing him to act like an adult and give up his millions from oil trading he made on oil from said wars,what can you do to "The Patriot Act" president?
We'll just stop voting for moron republicans...Oh wait,we did. Who you got in 2016? Bet we could run Howie Mandell against whatever idiot you can muster.

TheZigRat
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 1665 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:19:17 PM
All this Biasing BS is why I listen to other sources for news such as BBC. There is Less BS and more news (Except for Kate's Late Mate biproduct)

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 2:37:37 PM
Denying liberal bias in the regular media is like denying a Conservative bias on Fox. It's just really dumb. I mean seriously, just watch the stations before election time and you'll see the difference. And all the things listed here are talked about on a daily basis. You'll even hear about them on Fox among liberal commentators. This is really dumb, I mean for real.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25764 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:38:52 AM
If the media was so overwhelmingly liberal, shouldn't that trend be reversed?

See? Here's where you fail to understand the most BASIC of facts: Liberal Bias is NOT NEW! It's been around, strongly for 30+ years!
Only now there's OTHER sources for TRUTHFUL news, so the MSM monopoly is broken.
Faced with the choice of MSM Liberal Lies or "other" many people have chosen... "other". ANYTHING is better!

That doesn't "prove" the MSM is "Right Wing" HAHAHA! It just proves that the average citizen is SICK of Liberal Bias!

why are we liberals so frustrated with it?

You Liberals are simply frustrated that ANY voice besides your own is heard. There is no room in "Liberalism" for truth, facts or discussion: only ONE POV is allowed.

8:18:17 AM @chalket claims MSM 'not covering important news'
9:13:05 AM @chalket LINKS lots of coverage...

Doublespeak is very, very

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25764 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 11:31:47 AM
@chalket: You forget who's been in the White House for the past 5 years?
You forget what happens to ANYONE who DARES question "The One"?
THAT is why.
There is no more "Blame Bush" coverage because that was 5 YEARS AGO! Even the most UBER-LIBTARD cannot dredge up reasons to BB over Benghazi... but they still try!!!

All the problems which would normally be blamed on the PotUS? CANNOT BE SPOKEN OF!

ALL NEWS must come with a White House Approved "Liberal Spin" which dumbs it down to Kindergarten levels (for Liberals to understand, and for those nasty 'facts' to be omitted).

Claiming "things would be better IF" implicitly implies that things are BAD now! Duh!

Spelling Nazi? That's the best "answer" you can come up with?

Lamesauce is highly liberal.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:09:06 AM
"It is a rational conclusion that can be drawn by the age of the viewers, the reasons they watch, and the ratings for each."

I see, so you DID pull it out of your ass. Just so we all understand where your data comes from...

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:07:25 AM
And to your second point I think the "enjoyment" has been lowered on both sides by the gridlock in Congress and the NSA leaks and recordings and stuff, I'll expand on it later.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:04:50 AM
"The point is, a TRULY LIBERAL AGENDA would have criticism of outsourcing visible and vocal practically every day!"

I'm not sure about everyday, but I know both Chris Matthews, Andrea Mitchell, and Ed Schultz definitely talked about it, especially when they talked about the Immigration Bill. And the Dylan Ratigan show has talked about outsourcing directly. They always pull on Peter Morici or Bernie Sanders when they want a guest, I'll look for some stories later but I know they've done it. I actually need to go to the Bank but I be back later, but i remember nearly everyone of those points being mentioned, though that may not be the title of the show.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:49:58 AM
Hey, I might be "part of the fringe" for all I know, but the evidence points the other way. From your own link (albeit a prior page):
"The percentage of liberal Democrats who say they enjoy keeping up with the news a lot has fallen 22 points, from 67% in 2008 to 45% currently. The decline is 12 points among conservative and moderate Democrats (58% to 46%). By contrast, opinions among Republicans and independents have shown little change." If the media was so overwhelmingly liberal, shouldn't that trend be reversed?

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:49:42 AM
@richanddead
I don't think you're stupid. What I was trying to show was that your claim of
"They have covered everyone of these issues in a way that you'd prefer and is listed in the article." is incorrect. Take the "Outsourcing" search, for example. The first result simply lists outsourcing as one bullet-point the House could have done instead of endless pointless votes to repeal Obamacare. The next two are book reviews. The next one claims that "outsourcing (is) less appealing" now. The point is, a TRULY LIBERAL AGENDA would have criticism of outsourcing visible and vocal practically every day! MSNBC barely touched it. The same holds true for the other links, and for the others I didn't link.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:48:13 AM
"Please cite a credible source for that incredible claim."

It is a rational conclusion that can be drawn by the age of the viewers, the reasons they watch, and the ratings for each.

"is rather scary, about on par with the 11% who get their "in-depth" from FOX."

Firstly your comparing a network as a whole with individuals. But still if you look at the two networks, a 1% difference between the two most politically polar news outlets is not a landslide.

"Could it really be the fact that entertainment shows will ALWAYS out-rate news shows?"

No actually, in fact several FOX hosts have higher ratings than the Daily Show, not saying i agree with why he says and especially how he says it, but Glenn Beck finished 12th in 2010 slightly ahead of john stuart who was 13th.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:32:40 AM
Wait, what?
"it is shown that liberal audiences respond more to being entertained than informed"?? Really?
Please cite a credible source for that incredible claim.
"One reason why the the rating are higher for John Stewart compared to any host at MSNBC" [sic]
Could it really be the fact that entertainment shows will ALWAYS out-rate news shows? You cannot compare Comedy Central to MSNBC (or ANY "news" outlet). The fact that even 2% claim to watch the Daily Show for its "in-depth reporting" is rather scary, about on par with the 11% who get their "in-depth" from FOX.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:27:07 AM
@chalket: Call me stupid, but what are you trying to show with your links?

And what do you define as a "real liberal" and secondly, if you think that MSNBC is not liberal enough do you think you might be part of the fringe and not the majority, in all seriousness, I would ask the same of someone who though FOX was not conservative enough.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:13:05 AM
Okay richanddead, I appreciate your attempt. How about backing up that claim? I tried searching tv.msnbc.com and, as a liberal, I have to disagree with you.
MSNBC on Outsourcing
MSNBC on wealth inequality
On "American Legislative Exchange Council"
Glass-Steagall

I could go on, but the bottom line is your MOST liberal and left-wing outlet (MSNBC) doesn't even come close to adequately covering what real liberals want covered.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:10:59 AM
But to answer the question of why do liberal media outlets not focus more on their politics and instead on entertainment is because, it is shown that liberal audiences respond more to being entertained than informed. One reason why the the rating are higher for John Stewart compared to any host at MSNBC. Despite that the pew research center has shown that only 2% of John's audience tunes in for "in-depth" reporting where the leading liberal percentage of 19% of Chris Matthews Hardball viewership tune in for that reason.

link

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1953 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:38:33 AM
"If we have a "liberal media," where are the liberal stories?"

I give you...





They have covered everyone of these issues in a way that you'd prefer and is listed in the article.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Sunday, August 11, 2013 8:27:38 AM
5Cats, I encourage you to go back and re-read the last paragraph (if you read it at all). Then I will ask you the same question it ends with: If we have a "liberal media," where are the liberal stories?

And YOU warn ME about 'kool-aid'?? LOL!

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