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Korean War Vet Arrested for Peacefully Protesting

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Xprez
Male, 30-39, Western US
 635 Posts
Friday, August 02, 2013 9:23:49 PM
As someone stated, the electoral college determines who is president. Popular vote is a mere conversation piece. Fix the archaic electoral college, then the PEOPLE will actually have a voice. The electoral college doesn't even have to vote along party lines. Terrible system.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:01:15 PM
I don't think us Libtards are actually against legislation to keep elections honest.

Then why are Democrats ALWAYS opposing laws to keep elections honest everywhere and every time they're proposed? Why have they never -- and I mean NEVER -- put forth a proposal of their own that would reduce or eliminate voter fraud?

Cheating is an integral part of Democrat electoral strategy and has been for decades.

papajon0s1
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 455 Posts
Monday, July 29, 2013 12:24:27 PM
No voter fraud? tell that to the vans and buses of people being dragged in by the lefties in the Wisconsin recall elections a few years back. Thank God there were enough smart people to counter that epic attempt at fraud. Want more? Two sons of Democrat candidates puncturing tires of Republican vehicles in Wisconsin. 20 people charged with voter fraud in 2008 in Madison Wi (jsonline.com) two men abusing same-day voter registration in WI (mediatrackers.org), in 2004 a report showed 1305 same-day voter registrations were invalid(online.wjs.com), WI Sen. Alberta Darling recall - 37% of the signatures were invalid (redstate.com). I could go on, but I will soon run out of space. Oh, and this is just Wisconsin, by the way. Can you imagine down in Chicago? But hey, there's no problem here... just look the other way!

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 2212 Posts
Monday, July 29, 2013 8:55:55 AM
Ollie,
I don't think us Libtards are actually against legislation to keep elections honest. You Conservatards keep making that stupid claim. It's as dumb as saying God exists because the Bible says so. I think what they want (at least I do but maybe I'm just a moderate Libtard) is to make sure it's done in a way that lets people keep their voting rights intact in a proper fashion. Make those IDs easily obtainable, in a timely fashion, at no cost to the voter. Not doing so *may* interfere with those rights for some people. Supposedly (I haven't looked into this at all) those would mostly be people likely to vote Democratic. If that is actually correct, it would seem to be a very good reason for the Conservatard population to fight the Libtards and make up dumbsh*t excuses for it.

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 2212 Posts
Monday, July 29, 2013 8:39:56 AM
I can understand checking photo ID to ensure that the voter registration card is being presented by the person listed on the card. If it's going to become required, and I see no issue with such a requirement, then those without other acceptable photo ID should have access to free, officially acceptable, ID. Why? Because some voters really don't have the money to buy it, and that shouldn't stop them from voting and, yes, it could certainly be construed as a "voter tax".
Gerry,
Some people don't drive cars, use a library, cash government checks. Some ID's are acceptable for some applications but not for others. I'm pretty liberal myself. I try not to be an idiot about it. People can also be conservative and not be idiots about it. Some of the elderly and the poor might actually be disenfranchised from their right to vote if the ID issue is handled poorly. Why is it SUCH a problem for conservatives to recognise that and ensure that those rights are protected for everyone

ghoulie11
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 361 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:35:17 PM
I don't see why anybody gives a crap, for the presidential election. As long as we still use the electoral college, your vote is worthless.

As for state, county, and city elections a valid state ID should be perfectly fine, as long as you're a registered voter.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9576 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:29:01 PM
"Now, you tell me, why, all of a sudden, aren't the IDs they use to do those things not good enough for the Republican-run states who are changing the laws?"

They are good enough. As a matter of fact, they are the same.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9576 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:25:42 PM
About voter ID laws.

Everywhere asks for ID anyway. Why not require it?

A voter ID card is free. It can be brought to your home for free. It is no trouble or inconvenience to get one, and it makes voting 100% fair. Why don't you guys want voting to be fair?

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 9576 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:24:25 PM
He didn't look arrested to me. I kept looking for the cops to come take him away, but it never happened.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2141 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:15:21 PM
Cont- Democratic process, keep giving them good reason to be, VOTE.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2141 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 9:12:20 PM
Yeah why indeed would we be up in arms over *never before needed* documentation they want you to show to be able to vote?

Why would we be the least bit concerned that steps are being taken to remedy a problem that all that facts say doesn't exist? We should just trust our R handlers, after all they do know best.

Let me put it in words you can understand Gee Oh Pee, The country's just not that into you. And it isn't going to get any better from here on out, my generation, Millennials, are 80,000,000 strong and getting stronger every day that passes. In '16 you folks need *at the very least* 6,000,000 more angry old white men to be able to perform at *'12 levels*.

It's over, change yourself or face extinction.

To my age group, right now Rs are running scared over people exercising their right to participate in the Democ

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 8:36:01 PM
But why are people so opposed to legislature that would ensure HONEST ELECTIONS?

Gerry, I know that was rhetorical, but you have to realize, many of the libtards around here are too stupid to get it. Therefore, I will answer it.

The reason why some people, i.e., Democrats, are so opposed to legislation that would ensure honest elections is that they don't WANT honest elections; they want to be able to cheat and get away with it the way they've been doing for years.

Al Gore tried and failed to steal the 2000 election in Florida by "vote-mining" in Democrat-controlled counties and by disenfranchising overseas military personnel. When the Supreme Court shut him down, the libs squealed like scalded pigs.

It's also a proven fact that All Franken won his senate seat by fraud, and he was the deciding vote for ObamaCare. If it weren't for voter fraud, there would be no ObamaCare today. Fraud is real, and it's not inconsequential.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 8:23:21 PM
when did all 50 become "Democrat-controlled jurisdictions" huh?

Chicklet, are you just trolling, or are you really that f***ing stupid that I have to explain this to you? You don't have significant levels of fraud in Republican precincts because 1) Republicans are far less likely to commit fraud, and 2) Republic election officials are far less likely to look the other way while it occurs.

Democrats, on the other hand, routinely commit, permit, and encourage fraud. In several precincts in northern Philly Romney received exactly 0 votes, which is for all intents and purposes a statistical impossibility. In other places, the total number of votes cast exceeded the number of registered voters in the precinct. However, in neither case did the local Democrat election officials find any evidence of fraud. "Nothing to see here. Move along...move along."

And if you want references, Google it yourself, ya lazy lout.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:21:01 PM

Why NOT ask for an ID to show you are allowed to vote?
Why all this fuss against the idea?
What does it hurt to prove you are a legal voter?
It's not hard, it's not racial biased, just show an ID.

Wanting honest elections does not make me a racist.
But why are people so opposed to legislature that would ensure HONEST ELECTIONS ? Seems like you guys are fighting for the wrong team.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2426 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 6:09:02 PM
@MoldieMollie
You are one warped and twisted idiot man-child, aren't you? "I deny your FACTS and SCIENCE 'cuz it makes my brain hurt!"

You dismiss EVERYTHING with "Democrats blah blah libtard yada yada!" and make outrageous claims that only Glenn Beck would believe! You never cite a source or prove a point or even contribute anything thoughtful, you're just a grumpy old fart yelling incoherently at the kids on his lawn. In short, you're boring and predictable.

As for your last post, you obviously didn't read Smag's links before your tirade. Or did you just somehow miss the bit about "sent thousands of requests to elections officers in ALL 50 STATES" (when did all 50 become "Democrat-controlled jurisdictions" huh?) Or that the researchers were from such Democrat bastions as Florida and Texas and Oklahoma? How can you let your partisanship blind you so thoroughly? You are very sad indeed.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 4:53:14 PM
@SmegmaBoy, all your links say is that in Democrat-controlled jurisdictions (where nearly ALL voter fraud occurs), the Democrats in charge of election integrity don't find evidence of Democrat voter fraud. Wow! Hooda thunkit?

Basically, the same people who are benefiting from voter fraud (Democrats) are the ones charged with preventing it. It's call letting the fox guard the hen house.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3614 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 2:38:01 PM
Well, if we want to talk actual evidence versus anecdotes, let's have a look:

Here.

Or, here.

Or, here.

Or, if you have some time and really want to understand what's at work behind this movement, go here.

But to pretend that there *is* fraud, that it's rampant and provable? That *is* just myth. And it's been proven. Agai

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 12:49:02 PM
And, if people voted who were not allowed, that's not right. But let's not pretend it was voter fraud

So when felons, who are not legally allowed to vote, fraudulently claim that they ARE legally allowed to vote and vote fraudulently, that's not voter fraud? What color is the sky in your world?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:58:27 AM
@Gerry Don't believe the propaganda the LiberalMachine spews out about how difficult it is to get a "special id card".

Couldn't agree more. Besides, if you can't get your $#!+ together enough to get an ID for yourself, I don't give a loose dry f*** who you think ought to win the election. Some of these stupid lazy parasites NEED to be disenfranchised.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:33:59 AM

"tell me, why, all of a sudden, aren't the IDs they use to do those things not good enough for the Republican-run states who are changing the laws?"

Answer: It is. In most states {I haven't memorized all of them} a state issued ID or Drivers License is valid proof of identity for voting. Don't believe the propaganda the LiberalMachine spews out about how difficult it is to get a "special id card". MSNBC is about as accurate as FOX.... lies, all lies.

flying_ltj
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 340 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:28:25 AM
Here in Louisiana you have to show an ID to vote.

Racial makeup of Louisiana (according to US census) is 59.9% white non-hispanic, and 40.1% "minority"

So 4/10ths of the population here is some form of minority, and I have never heard of a person locally that has had an issue voting because of identification.

As a matter of fact, every time I remember ever voting I was showing my identification to someone my family knew growing up who IS a minority.

Shelworth
Male, 50-59, Western US
 298 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:10:06 AM
"Voter fraud is statistically so low it's almost a myth" yep, keep telling yourself that.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3614 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:07:50 AM
Gerry, you say that "They have to have an ID to cash their guv'ment checks. They have to have ID to sign up for services. To get a job, to drive a car. Visit the library." Okay, I agree. Now, you tell me, why, all of a sudden, aren't the IDs they use to do those things not good enough for the Republican-run states who are changing the laws? If a library card was enough, this wouldn't be an issue. If several forms of ID weren't a problem, this wouldn't be an issue. The problem is that these states are significantly limiting the types of IDs that are acceptable to vote. Not to do those other things. You've demonstrated the problem in a nut shell, Good Sir! It's not that these people don't have *any* IDs, it's that they don't have the "right" IDs.

As for counting voter fraud, Gerry, you study it after the fact, running down all reported voters in random samples and determine if it's occurring. This has been done over and over and over.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 11:06:02 AM

@ chimmeychang - you win one internet for making the most valid/important post in this entire thread. Whoever wins will be a thieve and bend you over so why get upset about it?


CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 1792 Posts
Sunday, July 28, 2013 10:48:47 AM
The only people whose votes are at risk, are the millions of criminals who illegally crossed our borders, bought fake and stolen identities and social security numbers, then b*tch about what a raw deal they're getting.
We should potshot their hind ends with rock salt as we herd them on their way out- and air drop 'em in China if they come back.

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