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If You Can't Afford To Tip [Pic]

Hits: 10118 | Rating: (2.8) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: kitteh9lives
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Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1316 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:06:52 PM
I almost always tip, I tip extremely well for above and beyond service. I say I almost always tip because there have been several occasions where a server will take our order, bring us our drinks, a different employee will bring us our food because our server is too busy, then we won't see our original server for the rest of the meal until our check is brought to us. Why the f*ck would I tip for that?

DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3884 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:03:45 PM
You know, this argument thread doesn't look any different than the last five times we trotted it out...it's almost--no..

...it's almost as if arguing on the internet doesn't accomplish anything.

Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1316 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:00:09 PM
I wouldn't tell them that before the meal, then they wouldn't even do the basics of their job.

SarahofBorg
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 3573 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:35:31 PM
I would gladly pay more for food if restaurants included the tip in the food prices so I wouldn't have to deal with this crap. All this crap does is make their food look cheaper.

chimmeychang
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 681 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:27:59 PM
@rockboy87, when i was serving I had someone tell me they don't tip...I replied I don't work for free. My manager had my back and directed him to the bar where he was served by the manager. Many restaurants choose to think of it like this, you are an employee but you are "renting" the space. The better you are at your job, the more you get paid because in the end, the restaurant isn't paying, the customers are. Also I would like to point out i have more than a few customers that didn't tip well, but i enjoyed seeing them every time they came in and gave them great service just because they were awesome people.Chances are if you feel you don't have to tip, you are the kind of people that really does need to pay people to be nice to you.

chimmeychang
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 681 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:21:34 PM
The tip for average service is 15% in the U.S. in many places in Europe the tip is mostly included in the bill. Your tip should reflect the service, and I am not talking about your people fulfilling your ridiculous expectations, but the general courtesy and quality of service. The amount of your tip should go up or down according to the service. If you do not like to tip, do not go to full service restaurants, get fast food or cook it yourself. If you frequent a restaurant, you will get much better service if you tip well and are polite, if you are not, well, just remember they have your food before you do and you can't see them...

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2681 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:17:57 PM
I want to set up a social experiment.

The control: go to a restaurant, tell them nothing. Watch service.

Experiment 1: ..., tell them the service I get is directly correlated to the tip I give. Start at 10% and increase or decrease based on, albeit subjective, performance.

Experiment 2: ..., tell them they will not receive a tip at all. (For this one, I'd give a really good tip regardless of service, but they would go the entire service thinking they will receive nothing)

handimanner
Male, 60-69, Western US
 1853 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 7:14:11 PM
I routinely tip 10%. If the waitress is really good she gets the whole schlong.

Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
 985 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:50:59 PM
So.. if the service sucks am I still required to tip without prior negotiations for adequate service? How about stop blaming the customers that don't tip for mediocre 'everyday/every table' service and actually go up and above to earn that tip as it is, was and always has been. IF I tip it is for the waitress for making me feel warm, welcomed and valued....not for the cooks, nor the management, nor every other waitress to split. If the food is awesome cook gets a tip, service is awesome waitress gets a tip...if I'm just a number well ill leave comparative tip.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4652 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:34:44 PM
Atrayu4u-"If restaurants would just work it out to where they pay their employees fairly"

The problem with this is you set a higher price, people will stop tipping. For wait-staff that are good at their job, this will be a cut in pay, as the tips they earn is much more than the owner will pay them.

A good wait-person can make in the hundreds during a shift. Even at $20 an hours, a 4 hour shift will net you $80.

From experience, I'd rather get the tips. I made much more that way. But then, I was a good waiter.

Quite frankley, I'm not worried about the crappy wait-staff.

Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2855 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:23:28 PM
Your pooty paycheck is not my problem and it never will be.

Atrayu4u
Female, 18-29, Western US
 1479 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:21:32 PM
I'd rather pay more overall for a meal than have tipping be a freaking obligation. It's become this snotty thing. "I'll treat you less well next time you come here because you gave me a crappy tip last time, wah." If restaurants would just work it out to where they pay their employees fairly, and this obligation disappeared, I'd probably still tip, depending on the situation. I just resent, greatly, being actually -frowned upon- and -treated differently- because of how much extra money I have so much of that I decide to or not to throw their way.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4652 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:07:55 PM
Johanvb-"restaurant-owners weasel themselves out of a decent pay for their personnel "

Repeat after me: "Tips are Wages...Tips are Wages."

Feel free to require minimum wage, but make sure to PROHIBIT tippings.

That great outcry you will hear will be the wait-staff that got screwed.

A decent wait-staff will make more than minimum.

A GOOD wait-staff will make much better than minimum.

If you're not making much more than minimum, you suck as a wait-person.

@halfpint:
Worst tip: 2 cents (after I had them remove a crappy dish off the ticket).
Best tip (%): over 100%, when we had a small meal, but the waiter was wonderful. ($20 tip on a $19 ticket)
Best tip ($): $125.00 on a $275.00 ticket. EXCELLENT service.
I am more likely to talk to the manager to compliment a waiter than to complain about one. On the other hand, I have gotten a guy fired from a place I frequent quite often.

HalfPintRoo
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2475 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:51:52 PM
I've tipped a waitress 1 dollar before because she was rude and lazy.

I tipped a waitress (estimating) 30% before because she was fun, hard working and friendly.

I don't believe in a set % just what they deserve- but I DO believe in tipping.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:39:35 PM

In the '80s I waited tables in Texas. The state assumes servers will get X percentage in tips and taxes them on it, whether they get those tips or not.

Johanvb
Male, 40-49, Europe
 434 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:38:23 PM
As i concluded to say (seems my text was cut off although it was 1000 characters long)

It's not about the tips, its about the system.

Johanvb
Male, 40-49, Europe
 434 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:34:46 PM
BS! So because restaurant-owners weasel themselves out of a decent pay for their personnel i have to make up for it by asking myself if i paid enough for the service that is provided?
Is 15% enough, should it be 20% because the waitress returned the bottle of wine that was bad or should that be a 25% markup?

In my country I round up the total amount to show my respect for the person who helped me without having to do antropological-algebra hoping that the amount of money i added was the correct peace-offering for this tribe.

I had a dinner to relax and enjoy a meal, not to worry afterwards if my untrained tipping-skills made somebody think foreigners are greedy bastards.

I also hate it when i go to the US that i have to carry around small change to pay the doorman, the guy who carries my suitcase, etc.
When do Americans learn it's a bloody nuisance for a tourist to manage his change so he can tip all the people he is supposed to tip.

It's no

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:32:40 PM
Don't be a douchebag like Mr. Pink. Tip your server, dammit!


mykunter
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2275 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:57:30 PM
Tipping is a tax shelter for the servers. They are 'paid' less than minimum wage. They are 'required' to report their tip income for tax purposes. I guarantee 99% of servers report just enough to hit minimum wage. The rest is tax free.

So, banning tipping would mean the employer has to make up the difference, which really means you, the consumer, makes up the difference. PLUS the tax amount on the servers FULL income. You will either pay more (i.e. bill + tip + server's income tax), or the server makes less. THEN NOBODY WINS!

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4652 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:21:09 PM
wibble4321-" It is a hidden cost and makes life a pain in the backside."

So you don't see what tip you just gave?

wibble4321-"That has nothing to do with service"

But you just said better tips got you faster service....make up your mind.

Ilikelogic-"Just give those poor people a decent wage."

The majoirty of wait staff that I know are more than happy with the wage they earn. Of course, they're GOOD at their jobs.

Seems the only ones that dislike it are the crappy 'pay me for showing up' workers.

I wonder why that is?

Originalform
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 292 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:07:15 PM
Damn tippers and their tipping agenda, shoving their tipping ways in everyone else face...tsk tsk

Zuriel
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 555 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:54:25 PM
screw that.

if you chose to work at a job that pays less than minimum wage, that's on you!

what a stupid custom, tipping

JacobTrue13
Male, 18-29, Europe
 260 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:34:05 PM
America is CRAZAY

DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3884 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:23:22 PM
I have no complaints about tipping, I've been on the service side of things (albeit as an untipped bus boy) and I know where my sympathies lie.

I just had to chuckle heartily at the "benefitting from low food prices" bit. Haw.

Whitemn
Male, 18-29, Western US
 136 Posts
Wednesday, July 17, 2013 2:10:46 PM
forgot to add, only a portion of those tips are required as taxable, so most waiters get untaxed income, which is a bigger +.

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