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Zimmerman Found Not Guilty [Pic+]

Hits: 7199 | Rating: (3.4) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: kitteh9lives
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patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4633 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:03:29 AM
Maybe the mistake here was the prosecutor going after a 2nd degree murder verdict, instead of manslaughter.

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4633 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:01:58 AM
In the end, both men overreacted. The whole story is just sad and it really shouldn't have happened. Zimmerman WAS in the neighbourhood watch and it was his job to look for suspicious activity. Martin more then likely was fed up with being racially profiled.

I really think this was a case where both men were right. Both men ramped things up. Both men brought it to a point where things became life threatening. One of them was apt to die.

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4633 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:57:21 AM
To me, this always looked like a situation that got WAY out of control. A white guy who was tired of the black kids breaking into the houses in the area and a black guy who was tired of being racially profiled by white guys.

The black guy is walking along looking at the houses (casing places or simply looking for the house he was visiting). The white guy assumes he's casing places. The white guy tells the cop on the phone that he's tired of these guys getting away and decides to follow him. The black guy feels threatened and tells his friend, on the phone, that he is being followed by a creepy cracker. Words are exchanged and both men are pissed off and fed up. The white guy tries to grab the black guy to restrain him. The black guy wants no part of it and fights back. Black guy starts to kick the white guys ass and knocks him to the ground. White guy pulls a gun and shoots black guy.

bdowner60
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 520 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:52:53 AM
Its not over , its only the beginning!

inversegrav
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 772 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:20:14 AM
All I will say is:
I was not in the courtroom.
I have not seen all of the evidence.
I did not hear all of the arguments.
I do not trust the general media to be accurate about a single god damned thing.
(And unless i have misread everything here at IAB these facts apply to everyone here.)

Therefore, I have no choice but to trust that the jury got it right.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:13:47 AM
I'm just glad that I know that if someone ever starts breaking my nose and beating my skull into the cement, that I'm allowed to fight back without being worried of being convicted of 2nd degree murder.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1708 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:07:42 AM
I don't know if i agree that GZ's only choice was to shoot. it seems lots of bad decisions were made. Why did GZ get out of his car? He called the cops... just sit and wait for them. If TM was up to no good and runs away, so be it. Your job isn't neighborhood crime-stoppers, it's neighborhood watchers.

In order to believe GZ is completely innocent I would have to feel that GZ was under threat of being killed himself, and to be honest I don't see that panning out in a neighborhood complex courtyard in this situation. Cops would have arrived, TM would have been arrested for assault? Or maybe would have left by then? I think everyone would prefer one of those outcomes.

cuthere2
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 314 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:52:31 AM
Shamrock - You claim George had 2 previous felony assaults... You realize the charges were DROPPED right? Did you ever bother looking into the details? One for example happened in a bar, when an officer who was not in uniform threw a hold on Zimmermans friend. Zimmerman who saw a guy in a bar assaulting his friend pulled the officer off. (Non-violently I might add) - The officer then arrested Zimmerman. Later, as the details came out that the officer (Off duty) was involved in an altercation with alcohol involved) - The charges were completely dropped... But by all means, keep making comments without providing any semblance of context... It really helps make your case for you!!

monsterzero
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 348 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 4:36:22 AM
@Shamrock:
If Zimmerman was a felon, he would not have been able to touch a gun of any kind.
Nevermind legally owning a handgun.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:30:42 AM
For the record, however, pictures of pot or guns on Trayvon's phone (though that phone most certainly should have been turned over) have NOTHING to do with this, are NOT evidence of ANYTHING, and shouldn't have been considered. Pot does not make a person aggressive--just the opposite--he had barely any in his system, and he wasn't carrying a gun (Zimmerman, on the other hand, wasn't tested for drugs or alcohol, and *was* carrying a gun). I won't argue the verdict, I won't argue about the fact that the state should have turned over the phone (they should have), but to say that it is evidence of anything about Trayvon that is germane to this case is incorrect and hints at something far more perverse than wanting to see fair justice for anyone involved in this tragedy.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:52:16 AM
Well, the jury has spoken. And regardless the outcome, I think we have among the best justice systems in the world. I'd rather ten guilty men walk free than one innocent man be jailed (not that I'm saying I believe Zimmerman to be one or the other, just saying).

I still do think it's awfully important that when you're carrying a gun, that you have the responsibility to only use it when you absolutely have to. And that includes in situations that you cause yourself. What a shame for all involved in this terrible case. My condolences to them all, on both sides.

JacobTrue13
Male, 18-29, Europe
 260 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:50:48 AM
These comments make me sick.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26321 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 2:18:10 AM
I bet 95% of black American teens have a picture of this type in their cellphone, on facebook, etc.

@Draculya: I'll take that bet! I don't think the "average" negro child is all that different than other races, and MOST KIDS do NOT have illegal guns and smoking pot in their pics!

Perhaps more than 'average' given how many and how far reaching the "gangsta" mentality is in SOME black communities. But not 95% by a long shot.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:34:52 AM
I trust the jury who will have seen all the evidence and done their job properly. Over trial by media what everyone seems to be doing.

But you cannot say this is purely down to Martin or purely down to Zimmerman. That's ignorant.

Unfortunate but Zimmerman was within his rights to be patrolling the neighbourhood and checking out a suspicious person (someone not there) and later in self defence. Unfortunately a high strung Trayvon intensified the situation by hiding then attacking someone following him.

What matters is a person is dead, which never should be celebrated. And another man's life has been shattered.

Nobody is right when everybody is wrong.

shamrock1014
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 310 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:07:17 AM
People calling TM a thug make me laugh. They totally gloss over the fact that GZ was arrested for two counts of felony assault and involved in domestic violence, yet he's a good guy.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 1:00:55 AM


@ Draculya, I can't speak to what young black men have on their cell phones. I know a few mature black men {40 years +} but no kids. In Trayvon Martins case, the text messages on his phone show that at the tender-innocent age of 16 he was trying to buy an illegal gun. There are other texts about his fights he'd been in and drugs but the point is, this is not a clean cut wholesome angel as the media portrays him as. Or as the judge would have you believe. He was a thug who is culpable in his own death. He might have outgrown that, become a good man. We don't know. But HIS own actions lead to his death, not Zimmermans.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:54:26 AM

turdb - " For a white person in the public eye being called a racist is career ending."

Exactly! It doesn't matter if they are in fact a racist or not. It's all about the accusation. I wouldn't use the word 'n#gger' because it's ignorant and stupid. You undermine yourself with stupidity when you do and besides that, it's offensive. But you don't have to be racist, just don't agree with Jesse Jackson and see what they call you. Then you're on the defensive. You cannot prove you are NOT a racist. And racism is something only white people can be. No one accesses a black of being racist....even though he might be.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12616 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:50:12 AM
"Trayvon Martins cell phone pics."

Gerry, that's pretty much on par for any black kid in America. Their culture makes them fantasize about being criminals and they take these stupid cellphone pics. I bet 95% of black American teens have a picture of this type in their cellphone, on facebook, etc. it doesn't mean that they are criminals, just like a white man owning a gun doesn't automatically make him a vigilante killer like Charles Bronson's character.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3776 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:37:30 AM

Gerry - you may own it, and I'll give you that. You are not most white people, and defiantly no in the public eye. White people are too scared to even say the word nigg@r in front of others or cameras...even when quoting someone else. For a white person in the public eye being called a racist is career ending. It's just easier.

I appreciate your candid position. I take the same stance. Can't have EQUALITY and double standards.


turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3776 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:24:23 AM

bomb-tom - It's obvious that you know very little about the facts in the case. That little bit fed to you by the bias media.

Try to save your garbage for topics you actually have knowledge on. Maybe tell us about your lobotomy, or how it feels to be sheared bald for your wool.

thefatviking
Male, 18-29, Europe
 202 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:23:20 AM
@djwajda
No it's the footage and reports from the Oakland riots.

DingDingDong
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1504 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:20:16 AM
I don't need to comment in this thread because @Gerry1of1 is doing a great job saying everything that needs to be said. Thanks Gerry1of1.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1266 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:20:02 AM
The judge should be forced off the bench though. Preferably into poverty and a minimum-wage job. She tried to help convict a man who clearly could in no way be proved guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:19:48 AM

"whites walk on glass, completely terrified of being called a racist"

Not me. I figure they'll call me a racist if I don't agree so I own it. I call myself a racist first.

I believe they HAVE overcome. Equality achieved. But if you have equality you have to let go of special privilege. There in lies the problem. I don't blame anyone, who wants to give up a good thing?

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1266 Posts
Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:16:28 AM
Justice is served. Good.

Tatung

Especially having 4 minutes to do so, as the defence showed by actually pausing for 4 minutes in the summing up.

"Some nobody with zero authority begins to stalk you - against the will of a 911-dispatcher - based on a hunch that you've been up to no good. "

Tom

Not only is that not likely to be what happened (that is the prosecution case) but you don't need authority to follow someone. If someone follows you you don't have the right to beat his head against the ground and openly threaten his life.

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