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This Is Why Public Transportation Still Sucks [Pic

Hits: 12486 | Rating: (2.0) | Category: Weird | Added by: fancylad
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CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4962 Posts
Friday, July 12, 2013 3:51:59 PM
All that fat? We could use that fat to power our cars!

ferdyfred
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10158 Posts
Friday, July 12, 2013 1:58:40 PM
why has a fat splaying black guy turned into a Electric car Hybrid, gas argument?
wanna keep green, - walk

geckohead
Female, 40-49, Southern US
 484 Posts
Friday, July 12, 2013 6:26:58 AM
Everyone needs to get over themselves. There are 7 BILLION people on this earth, everything you can imagine someone doing, it has been done. You/me/us are not that special.

CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4962 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:12:41 PM
Chalk, unless you want to tell me the manufacture of the super capacitor in my car was some horribly filthy process, I'll call bullsh*t.

Following the manual:
-It uses 87, no E-85 allowed. It has been one-hell-of-a long time since less than 650 miles per 15 USgals of fuel. With 3 economy gauges, the one I reset at 5000 miles is still higher than 41MPG at 43000 miles.
-It can go 10000 miles between oil changes, 5000 is recommended.
-It doesn't just run the engine to charge the capacitor, breaking/coasting also charge it.
-If the engine is warm, cabin at climate control temp and the cap charged, the engine will not idle.
- <=45MPH, it alternates partial gas, full electric, >45, it's partial electric.

Like any other type, not all hybrids are equal. BMW has one 33MPG and Chrysler and GM each had units <20MPG (WHYTF?!!)

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 4:09:44 PM

"The Argonne National Laboratory ran a side-by-side comparison of hybrid and conventional vehicles over their entire life cycle, which includes vehicle production, vehicle operation and the energy required to produce fuel for both cars. If you assume that both vehicles travel 160,000 miles (257,495 kilometers) over their lifetime, the conventional vehicle requires 6,500 Btu of energy per mile compared to 4,200 Btu per mile for a hybrid. That higher energy input results in far greater lifetime greenhouse gas emissions for conventional vehicles compared to hybrids, more than 1.1 pounds (500 grams) per mile compared to 0.75 pounds (340 grams) per mile."

CynicalGamer
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 441 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:58:29 PM
I wouldn't have one bit of a problem with that. People are too hung up on nipples and skin. So what if he opens up his shirt. Does it really hurt anyone?

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 5440 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:42:27 PM
Dammit, I thought black men had to ride in their own carriage....oh, you didn't mean that.

2L84ME
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 206 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 3:23:33 PM
I for one think this adds to the amusement of taking public trans.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:33:48 PM
Yes, POTENTIAL. Let me know when it's viable. I LOVE the POTENTIAL benefits of electric cars, as a good electric motor will give you buttloads of torque, and fewer moving parts. But at the moment it does not meet my needs.


That's it in a nutshell. EVs are OK right now if you have enough spare money to buy a very expensive version of a small urban car to use as a second car for short journeys and you have somewhere to charge it overnight and not very many people buy them.

Otherwise...potential. We don't have the batteries, we don't have the infrastructure and it's uncertain whether or not we have the generating and distribution capacity (EVs use a *lot* of electricity).

Sure, you can build a drag racer EV that does 0-60 in 1.8s and is still road-legal. Which is fun and proves the point that EVs don't have to be slow. But it's not very practical.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:25:13 PM
I just looked it up, to check. The earliest car with it came out in 1981 and it's become fairly common in new European cars in recent years.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11274 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 2:19:51 PM
What I think helps the vehicle the most is the engine not idling while sitting still and I think this characteristic is going to find it's way into other vehicles.


It has already. Maybe not in the USA, but it's been edging into the market over the last 10 years or so around here.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4362 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:49:47 PM
freddyferret-"but I do have solar panels that power my home"

Then an EV is perfect for you. One of my peeves of EV is it's really no more 'clean' if it's charged off the majority of the grid. The source of pollution has just been shunted.

Kudos for your efforts.

freddyferret
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 11632 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 12:15:03 PM
Where did you get the erroneous idea that an electric car doesn't pollute the air?

Unless your charging it by your own private windmill, the power you use to charge it gives you emissions equal to that of an Accord.



I don't have a windmill, but I do have solar panels that power my home, with plenty of energy left over. Charging an electric car would be just a little more than I already use at home.

As far as production, it may produce more waste to create it but in the long run the electric and hybrid vehicles have a much smaller carbon footprint than anything running on gas.

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6374 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:43:40 AM
Huh?! Why is this seat wet?!

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4362 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:35:23 AM
lauriloo-"I guarantee that my electric lawnmower, despite how the electricity is made, creates less pollution overall than a gas mower."

In that you'd be correct. But a 2-stroke engine is much less efficient, and much dirtier, than a car engine. (I'll not point out the obvious point that requiring 1,200' of extension chord is less than optimum).

An EV, on the other hand, requires onboard batteries, the manufacture of which is currently much dirtier than manufacturing, say, a Dodge Ram.

lauriloo-"unlike gas, we CAN find cleaner ways of making electricity so there is potential"

Yes, POTENTIAL. Let me know when it's viable. I LOVE the POTENTIAL benefits of electric cars, as a good electric motor will give you buttloads of torque, and fewer moving parts. But at the moment it does not meet my needs.

lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 1805 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:26:15 AM
"What I think helps the vehicle the most is the engine not idling while sitting still and I think this characteristic is going to find it's way into other vehicles."

It would be nice if all cars did this. For years, I've been doing it by myself. I live in MN and basically never "warm up" my car by leaving it running in the driveway. I think remote-starters should be illegal. Sit your wussy can in the car during the couple minutes it takes to come to driving temp. I turn off the engine at bank drive-thrus and train stops. Drives me crazy when I see cars parked and running because apparently turning a key is too much work for some people.

I was in Germany and the taxi I was in turned itself off and on every time the driver stopped at a light. Thought that was interesting.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4362 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:25:56 AM
freddyferret-"looking at an all electric car, so I'm also not just totally polluting the air either."

Where did you get the erroneous idea that an electric car doesn't pollute the air?

Unless your charging it by your own private windmill, the power you use to charge it gives you emissions equal to that of an Accord.

The manufacturing process of building your electric car is much more toxic than that of manufacturing a gas engined vehicle. The production of the batteries and motors for an electric vehicle would put the total emissions in line with (if not worse than) a Hummer.

But hey, as long as you FEEL clean....

CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4962 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:20:10 AM
I considered your argument, J, and have chosen what I think is the most reasonable compromise: A gas-electric hybrid.
Overall, I get 40+ MPG and my electricity is generated in-vehicle.

What I think helps the vehicle the most is the engine not idling while sitting still and I think this characteristic is going to find it's way into other vehicles.

I bought a crotch rocket that I want to convert to fuel injection (and maybe alternative fuel.) Starting at 38 MPG, I've gotten it up to a consistent 50.

I'm going to design some air management to be CN-HEY IS THAT GUY TRYING TO EAT TWO KIDS?!!! SOMEBODY STOP THAT GUY!!!

lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 1805 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:19:42 AM
Ah, chicagojay. There are always excuses for not changing what you do to help prevent further climate damage, right? Sure, everything pollutes but some things are better than others. I guarantee that my electric lawnmower, despite how the electricity is made, creates less pollution overall than a gas mower. AND, unlike gas, we CAN find cleaner ways of making electricity so there is potential there that we should work towards, rather than continue to cling to fossil fuels because certain people don't want to change their ruts. Decently-run coal plants use scrubbers to remove pollutants. If the GOP would get out of the way, the clean standards would be even tougher but we all know their priorities aren't with the planet's future but with making money now.

chicagojay
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 1804 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:45:13 AM
If you drive an electric car in the midwest, you are driving a coal powered car. You people do realize that electricity has be generated... it does not appear magically at the tax payer funder stations. Also, take a look at the toxic chemicals in todays batteries and think about the mess we will have in a few years when we have to dispose of these things.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13243 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:56:23 AM


pmarren
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 4243 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:55:55 AM
Next day's headline: "Black dude eats four adult commuters and two unattended children"

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 11857 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:51:09 AM
giving him a wide berth too.

freddyferret
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 11632 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:44:04 AM
I do drive a hybrid car and am looking at an all electric car, so I'm also not just totally polluting the air either.

freddyferret
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 11632 Posts
Thursday, July 11, 2013 8:43:35 AM
I would walk before I would take public transportation. I even hate taxis, you never know what is growing in those things.

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