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HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 9:12:10 AM
@Cajun

Good points; for instance, I lean pro-life.

I think the real issue with trying to compare liberalism or conservatism to libertarianism is that most people (liberals, conservatives, and moderates) want the government to act in their own best interests.

One of the best examples of this is gay marriage.

The stereotypical liberal supports gay marriage and therefore wants the government to legalize it.
The stereotypical conservative does not support gay marriage and therefore wants the government to criminalize it.

Libertarians, on the other hand, tend to simply think that it shouldn't be a concern of government - which is neither an approval or disapproval of gay marriage. While it may appear that libertarians align with liberals in this regard, it stems from a condemnation of government intervention rather than support for a specific ideology.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17184 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:38:16 AM
Good one McGovern.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:19:42 AM
How sad it must be to constantly live in fear to the point where you feel you must be armed at all times.


How sad it must be to constantly live in fear that your average, yet heavily armed, next door neighbor is going to come gunning you and/or your children down the next day.

You gun people make it sound like you live in Syria for cripes sake. No thank you. I don't want to live in fear like that.


When in fact they tend to be mild mannered collectors.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10283 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:16:07 AM
I'm a libertarian


No, you are an objectivist. The difference is in what we view as an appropriate foreign and military policy.

Keeping religion out of government


Religion is going to influence government some way shape or form. What we don't want is something like the Anglican Church or the Vatican.

Keeping religion out of school


Out of public school sensible, but if Catholics want their own privately operated schools then that's their prerogative.

Abortion


I should point out that libertarian opinion is rather split on this issue. I lean pro-choice.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:07:51 AM
To me this woman would have been better protected with a hand gun or shotgun than she would have been with an AR15 and 100 round barrel mag. To me that is only useful for shooting for fun or mass murder.


lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 1805 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:47:14 AM
sheesh. I've lived alone since I was 24. Suburbs of Baton Rouge, Cincinnati, Baltimore and St. Paul. Always travel alone, too, to Mexico, Europe and all over the USA. I have NEVER felt the need to weaponize myself or my home. Sure, I lock my doors and all the simple safety things people do but nothing extreme. You gun people make it sound like you live in Syria for cripes sake. No thank you. I don't want to live in fear like that.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:31:23 AM
All also great examples of "black culture" take a trip there and see for yourself.....

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:29:13 AM
@FoolsPrussia

HOLY BLIND PARTY SUPPORT!! If blue states have less crime how would you explain that they have the most violent cities like Detroit, Oakland-CA, and Chicago for example.... All King Obamas guides for gun control BTW.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5718 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:17:28 AM
This is why my wife keeps a gun on her. All the time.

How sad it must be to constantly live in fear to the point where you feel you must be armed at all times.

abrxax
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 72 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:51:49 AM
shes lucky she didn't get raped or worse. This is why my wife keeps a gun on her. All the time. Only in the states with gun control.

Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
 2098 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:52:45 AM
MelCervini, I'd just guessed your first comment was sarcastic... wasn't it?
Deadkittens has it right too: 3 year olds and toddlers at home make putting a gun under your couch one of the STUPIDEST things a parent can do at home.
I think it's hard for most people to hear of this because (at least for myself) the instinctive response is to make sure that that guy no longer exists to harm anyone ever again... the best that anyone who is not a cop can do is to try and help catch the guy. Or help the family get past this?
(Gotta try and resist the mob/lynching mentality).

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12337 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 1:41:27 AM
Someone's about to get lynched by the popo, I think.

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1962 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:42:27 AM
To bad it was New Jersey, not one cop with an I.Q. higher than a Hamster.

soundman655
Male, 50-59, Canada
 1496 Posts
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 12:35:20 AM
Now That's a I am a racist! !!!!

Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
 985 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 11:02:43 PM
With all the debate about having a gun handy and running and locking herself in her room to get it out f the safe...did everyone miss the part where her 3 year old daughter was there too? obviously no guns in the living room...obviously shes goingfor her daughter before a gun upstairs... and (I know sexist lol) obviously maternal instincts kicked in she tried to plead... after the first volley of punches she was in no condition to do anything including run.

Guns or otherwise there is no way to predict this. Home surveillance was a start..

MelCervini
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
 1257 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:56:37 PM
I stand corrected on the pee/vomit source, which is still ludicrous to suggest no matter the source... I got my idiot quotes mixed up... right.. fire a double-barrel shotgun in the air as a warning shot... illegal, stupid and highly HIGHLY irresponsible to shoot a deadly weapon without knowing there the projectiles go. You pick up a gun, you use it as its intended.. its not a "warning device".

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3684 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:29:04 PM

Chalket - I am simply glad that I was able to make you mad. Now take your anger with me and turn it into sympathy for criminal. One who was unfairly shot by some a$$hole protecting his family...like a good tool.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3684 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:21:11 PM

OldOllie - Not a republican? I'll be damned. I won't deny that you may be libertarian because I don't care what that means. Personally, I take form my own opinions without guidance form any party. Which is why I keep my nose out of the vast majority of political discussions. Most people form opinions based on party lines (you), what their emotions lead them to believe, or on the biased knowledge fed to them by others (based on party lines). I realize I spew a lot of s#it here at IAB, but 95% is nonpolitical. Firearms and gun control is the one political subject I do consistently weigh in on.
On the other hand you appear to take a definite, right wing, unchanging, unwilling to reconsider, fu@k you if you disagree with me stance on damn near everything.
Excuse me if I made the mistake of confusing you for a republican.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:19:44 PM
OldOllie

"libertarians agree with Democrats, I'll be happy to point out where you're wrong about that."

I shouldn't have said "dempcrats" I guess as democrats are virtually indistinguishible from republicans in a lot of ways. However here are some ways I think "liberals" are like libertarians:

Gay marriage
Keeping religion out of government
Keeping religion out of school
Against american imperialism
Against most american involvement in other countries
Legalized drugs
Legalized prostitution
Legalized gambling
Proper sex education
Abortion
Anywhere else where religion or forced "morality" encroach on an individual's life.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14443 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:19:05 PM
Biden said to get a SHOTGUN for home protection.

He also said to go out and fire two rounds in the air from your balcony or just shoot through the door, both of which would be stupid, dangerous, ineffective, and illegal.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 10:09:32 PM
MelCervini

"she should have peed or vomited on him! that SURLY would have stopped him, right mr vice pres?"

Ahhhh. Another misinformed lemming from the right wing pundit sphere. Welcome.

That suggestion is from the Rape Aggression Defense (RAD) systems class curriculum created by an international organization of certified law enforcement instructors. As ridiculous as it sounds it actually has a lot of data to back it up.

Biden said to get a SHOTGUN for home protection.

“if you want to protect yourself, get a double barrel shotgun.”

But that's cool, just go with the narrative you were spoon fed. Jehovah forbid you have the vaguest inkling about what you speak.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14443 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:57:34 PM
HG, first let me make one thing clear, I'm a libertarian, not a Libertarian. I side with Republicans on some issues, but I would be hard pressed to find a single issue where I side with Democrats. If you can think of an issue where you think libertarians agree with Democrats, I'll be happy to point out where you're wrong about that.

Gary Johnson had already dropped out of the race when my state held its primary, so I never got the chance to vote for him. In the general election it was more important for me to cast a meaningful vote against Obama by voting for Romney than it was to waste my vote making a completely futile gesture by voting for Johnson.

MelCervini
Female, 40-49, Eastern US
 1257 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:55:47 PM
she should have peed or vomited on him! that SURLY would have stopped him, right mr vice pres?

sonofd
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 51 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:48:19 PM
This is why I have a gun in my home. I just can't understand anyone who doesn't.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:41:11 PM
OldOllie

"I'm a libertarian. I very rarely support Republicans"

So you voted for Gary Johnson, not Romney?

I just can't think of a single comment I've seen you make that wasn't ABSOLUTE lockstep with the republican platform. I know there is some overlap, but man you come off as a hardline republican.

What are issues you side with democrats about? Just curious. Because whenever someone accuses me of being captain liberal I can list off a whole list of issues where I side with republicans.

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