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ALIEN DISCLOSURE By Canadian Minister Of Defense

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Moriachik
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 50 Posts
Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:29:01 AM
"I live near Edwards Air Force Base in So Cal... I have seen the UFOs Cloaked as clouds. They hover over the base for hours with no other clouds in the sky and then suddenly they are gone in a matter of moments. my fave. quote. Everyone is waiting for an invasion, but they are already here."
-wingz1206

I've lived on and next to many bases, including Edwards, for my entire life. I have never seen any aircraft that weren't military, and certainly never anything disguised as clouds. I'm serious, I've lived in base housing next to the flight line. I got to hear C130's and C5's take off on a daily basis. Of all the time I spent watching the skies, I have never seen anything capable of making me think there were 'aliens'.
Not saying they don't exist, just that I don't think you saw what you think you saw.

It's like people claiming that Cheyenne Mountain contains secret alien technology. Bullpoo.

Moriachik
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 50 Posts
Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:24:29 AM
shamrock1014
How have we been to other planets when we don't even have the technology necessary to reach Mars?
It would take YEARS upon YEARS to reach even our closest planetary neighbor, let alone one farther out (and able to kill us the second we reach the atmosphere) or god forbid other solar systems...

gargaflute
Male, 18-29, Canada
 118 Posts
Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:24:29 AM
LOL, that look at 2:20.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25716 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:52:34 PM
@Xperez: If and when they "make contact"? There will be no doubt!
Of course it might not happen for 1,000 years, if ever!

I've had several hyper-realistic dreams about aliens coming to Earth. Usually billions of dead. Only one ended well for us humans... well 2 I suppose, only after thousands of years of suffering... (we exterminated those M-Fers from existence in the Milky Way. They richly deserved it! 30+ other species were freed from them by us humans )

(I have had some 'very bad dreams' ever since I was a 'lil kitten...)

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6406 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 7:48:28 PM
Paul Hellyer hasn't been in the government for decades! And he's been certifiably paranoid nuts for years.

Xprez
Male, 30-39, Western US
 676 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 7:41:44 PM
Proof needs to be tangible. A grainy pic of an object 2 miles away, hardly qualifies. Grainy and bouncy camera footage suffers the same unconvincing proof. Most of the world has not seen a UFO, therefore most of the world will not take it as truth from a handful of people that claim to have seen one and have no proof.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25716 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 3:08:38 PM
@drawman61 & @normalfreak2: the How and Why of their coming to Earth is VERY important! Especially if there are 3 competing species, eh?

Like the Invasion of North America by France, Spain and England (and the Dutch & Portugal too. Sweden even...) Each had different motives and used different methods to achieve them.

Overly Simplified Overview:
>France: Wanted trade to get rich back home. Were very friendly, dealt (mostly) honestly, killed whoever got in their way.
>England: Wanted resources to get rich here and back home. Usually tried to assimilate natives, killed whoever opposed them.
>Spain: Wanted treasure, all of it! NOW! Put natives who didn't "pay up" to the sword. Also used religious conversion as a tool of control.

The 3 main alien races (among others, IF Hellyer is right) could be like that too...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25716 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 2:57:11 PM
Wiki: Paul Hellyer He was a Big Dog back in the day! If anyone could know "the facts" he'd be one of them.

9:00 Did he just say Global Warming is part of the Alien Takeover Plan? He did, didn't he! Of course it makes perfect sense that they'd terraform to make Earth more hospitable for themselves...

Look at almost every instance in Human History when advanced societies (technology, military, economically) met primitive ones? They (almost) all follow the exact same pattern Hellyer lays out...

There's various ways to "takeover the Earth", mostly they depend on what technology the Aliens use for inter-stellar travel... and what their "end goal" is...

wingz1206
Female, 18-29, Western US
 176 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 2:14:36 PM
I live near Edwards Air Force Base in So Cal... I have seen the UFOs Cloaked as clouds. They hover over the base for hours with no other clouds in the sky and then suddenly they are gone in a matter of moments. my fave. quote. Everyone is waiting for an invasion, but they are already here.

erikthevikin
Male, 30-39, Canada
 722 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 1:43:00 PM
That is not Canadian Defense minister Peter Mackay.

El_Chinche
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 511 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 1:22:49 PM


shamrock1014
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 306 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 1:06:26 PM
So it's feasible that we've been to other planets, but make mention you believe beings from other planets have been here, then you're labeled as crazy.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 12:10:32 PM
I'm not saying that we're the only life in the universe. The odds of that are almost astronomically low. What I am saying is that I have seen no proof of UFOs here, and I'd need that to believe we've been visited.

What is proof? I guess that's a good question. There are plenty who don't allow their children vaccines for fear they cause autism. They claim they've seen proof. Plenty claim the Earth is flat, that we've faked the moon landings, that spontaneous combustion occurs. They all have proof.

For me, it goes beyond rumor and conjecture. For me proof is easy. Can I see it with my own eyes, touch it, feel it, smell it, taste it? If so, it's real. Does that make it alien? No, but if it can pass some of those tests and still seem alien to me, I'll at least be open to the discussion.

flying_ltj
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 340 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 10:47:18 AM
Sounded more like he was plugging a book, and his buddy's books.

Cant call a guy crazy for making money.

rickwhite
Male, 30-39, Canada
 151 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 10:47:02 AM

What is proof?
NOT a troll. I'm serious.
What would be proof to satisfy people?
If it was on CNN, is that proof? NBC? CBS? BBC?
Where does it become proof, and not a "hoax"?

If there was a posting on the internet of photographs, people would just say "That's photoshop."
If there was a video on youtube, people would just say, "It's CG animation."

If there is a hearing, in front of congress, by a former Defence Minister, and dozens of others (it was a big, big, event) that's not proof.

The reality is, there is a LOT of evidence right under our noses. We choose to ignore it. Choose to discount it.

Look up these people, if you have an extra moment:
Richard Hoagland
Richard Dolan
Nick Pope
Stanton Friedman
Edgar Fouche
Gordon Duff
Ben Rich
Gary Mackinnon

The reality is, this UFO stuff isn't going away. In fact, as the people involved get older, it will

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:53:50 AM

The truth is out there.



tjgvertigo
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 61 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:45:11 AM
In before "sudden heart attack".

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1860 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:31:44 AM
I'm with Smagboy, I need proof.

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1860 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:27:40 AM
Is it believable that we aren't the only creatures with sentient thought? I think the odds are we aren't alone. However with that said why would they be working for the United States? Why wouldn't they show themselves to everyone? Knowing they exist would push our species even further. It may lead us to question everything we believe we know.

The only thing I question is their ability to travel here. As far as we are aware there is nothing that has mass that can exceed the speed of light. How would they get here in any reasonable time frame? Better question is why would they? We still believe in fairy tales.

Rodin
Male, 30-39, Canada
 624 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:27:08 AM
Paul Hellyer was Minister of Defense in 1963 and he's 89 years old. There's a reason why he wasn't re-elected -- he's crazy.

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 6033 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:24:22 AM
I can well believe all this but I wonder why these more advance races don't just come in and take the power away from these elite few and run the world fairly for all of us.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:09:25 AM
Doe he have any proof? Actual proof we can see, touch, feel, smell? I mean, I'm not trying to discredit him, but, you know, I ask the same from persons of faith, so, I have to ask it of him. Show me actual proof, Dude, and I'll believe. Until then, my atheism and skepticism are what they are. For those interested, here's a link from Huffington Post on the testimony.

patchouly
Male, 40-49, Canada
 4598 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 8:55:14 AM
Link: ALIEN DISCLOSURE By Canadian Minister Of Defense [Rate Link] - Aliens sharing technology? I KNEW Bill Gates wasn't that smart!


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