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8 Foods In The US That Are Banned Elsewhere [Pic+]

Hits: 9858 | Rating: (2.1) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Squrlz4Sale
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chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Saturday, June 22, 2013 8:13:07 AM
@Runemang
Please cite your sources.

From all accounts, Olestra IS banned in Canada (Canadian ban adds to woes for P&G's olestra) and pretty much everywhere else except the good ol' USA.

As for "pulled voluntarily," Proctor & Gamble boasts that "More than one million servings of foods with olestra are eaten every day" so not much pulling going on, eh?

And your claim of "never a sinclge case of it" [sic">, even Frito-Lay admits it, albeit only in internal memos.

Runemang
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2623 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 6:35:44 PM
#2) point of fact - it's not "banned" no, but it's also not used anymore (pulled voluntarily by the company). The "anal leakage" thing became such a HUUUUUUUGE public laughingstock for the company (though supposedly there was never a sinclge case of it actually happening), they pulled it. It's now used as an industrial lubricant. lol.

erikthevikin
Male, 30-39, Canada
 722 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 3:20:15 PM
I am so glad many of these are banned in Canada.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17147 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 9:37:11 AM
randomxnp: Yes, even drinking too much water can kill you. It's called Water intoxication or dilutional hyponatremia. It results in an imbalance in electrolytes which disturbs brain function.

It's rare, but it shows that even too much of a good thing can be harmful.

Issame
Female, 30-39, Eastern US
 112 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 6:07:04 AM
If I roll my eyes any harder, they're going to pop out. Shock journalism failed this author.

Vimto
Male, 40-49, Europe
 2588 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 4:18:30 AM
Small quantities of arsenic help you build up a tolerance.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1258 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 12:51:19 AM
"Someone is drinking 8 liters of effind soda every day. There's bound to be problems there no matter what's in that drink"

Indeed drinking 8 litres of water a day can do a lot of harm unless sweating profusely.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1258 Posts
Friday, June 21, 2013 12:49:28 AM
Or the rest of the world in thrall to the pseudo science of the linear-no-threshold model of toxicity.

e.g. "..arsenic is POISON, which will kill you if you ingest enough." and is completely harmless at the doses in even a huge serving of chicken.

These "associations" with cancer, birth defects or whatever are shown by studies where small animals, usually mice, are exposed to vast doses. Those studies have no predictive power whatever for the effect on humans at the doses taken in even by people obsessed with that food type.

Bealzebubble
Male, 18-29, Australia
 321 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:16:06 PM
But at least they stepped right up to the plate and banned those Kinder Surprise death traps.

El_Chinche
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 511 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:36:39 PM
Phew, at least cocaine isn't on that list. Now I can breath easy.

Magentab0b
Female, 30-39, Western US
 1462 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:33:40 PM
Eating things that won't kill you actually really easy as a consumer. Just read the label and if you don't know what it does, don't buy it. It won't be a hardship it'll actually be a case of, tl;db (too long; didn't buy): got to second set of brackets within brackets, decided to make own pasta. fyi: Guar Gum is awesome!

BigWaFuu
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1165 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 9:32:26 PM
At first I was like.. "wut?" then I read it and was like.. "oh god.. how can this happen?" then I -really- read it..(The man had uncontrollable spasms and muscle failure after drinking 8 liters of soda every day.)
.. "Well no ****." Im not sherlock but I think I see the problem. Someone is drinking 8 liters of effind soda every day. There's bound to be problems there no matter what's in that drink.

Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2855 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:27:04 PM
Everything that you will ever enjoy in life will kill you.

Pinkminx22
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 1021 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:35:39 PM
Hmmm...now I want a bagel.

emmettyville
Female, 40-49, Australia
 4266 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:32:43 PM
I have one very strict shopping rule......If it's made in America, dont buy it. And the fact that is not banned,as I'm sure some of these things are not in NZ, does not mean we use them.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17147 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:07:11 PM
There's a big difference between something that is "Linked" with a particular malady and actually being a source or cause to that malady.

You can link virtually any two things together, but that DOES NOT mean that one CAUSES the other to happen.

For instance, Gather data on house fires in any city. Then correlate the number of fire engines at each fire and the damage done at each fire. Report that there is significant relationship between the number of fire engines and the amount of damage. Conclude that fire engines cause the damage.

Yes, It's that simple and gets that absurd sometimes. So don't believe all the "Linked To" baloney floating around out there.

Saccharin packets had a cancer warning label on them for over 40 years, until the year 2001 when the warnings were repealed because it was found that the rats they were testing saccharin on have proteins in their urine that humans don't, thus causing them to get cancer.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:58:07 PM
@Squrlz

Also, I'm not opposed to state or even multi-state agencies performing the same function; I'm merely against the federal government doing so.

Actually, many of the problems that occur due to the federal governments involvement would be at least partially alleviated if done by the states. Namely, consumers would still have options rather than dictates. After all, it's working that way for gay marriage, isn't it?

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:54:10 PM
@Squrlz

It's Not Just Me Who Thinks So...

He does a good job explaining why it's far easier to see the good done than the harm.

As for your assertion about "Victorian" US, that was a long time ago. Third party testing was not as capable and cheap as it is now. Furthermore, it wasn't possible to implement accreditations across the nation the way it is now.

While the FDA may have been needed a hundred years ago, to suggest that we would magically revert to an era of consumer ignorance is absurd.

slut_etta
Female, 50-59, Southern US
 3373 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:32:50 PM
here's a news flash for y'all: WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE SOMEDAY.

go ahead, open the floodgates. i never read responses to my posts anyay.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:25:38 PM
@ QueenZira: Your comment prodded me to check Wikipedia. According to the article there, companies started removing olestra from their products in the 1990s because consumers got tired of... you know... stained underwear. But as of 2013, two products still contain it: Lay's Light potato chips and Pringles Light potato crisps. So for consumers who want to experience anal leakage for themselves, there's still time! =^.^=

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:17:21 PM
@ HumanAction:

Many notable economists have done studies suggesting that the FDA has done far more harm than good.

It amazes me to hear that assertion. After all, there is no need to *speculate* as to what life would be like without an FDA: just go back in history prior to the passage of the Pure Food and Drugs Act of 1906. Having spent a lot of my academic life researching and reading about Victorian America, I can tell you that adulterated foods were rampant then: formaldehyde and borax, for example, were commonly added to canned meats to extend their shelf life. Carcasses of domestic animals were routinely thrown in with cattle at slaughterhouses. A holdover from that era is the Quaker gentleman on the box of today's Quaker Oats: Quakers had a reputation for being honest, so the name and image were chosen to gain the trust of the consumer.

My only regrets about the FDA and EPA are that they aren't better funded.

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2681 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:06:21 PM
Expanding on the inefficiencies of the EPA:

A block away from my house, there is an abandoned strip mine. I'm not sure how long it's been abandoned, but it has been for at the very least, 10 years.

Since it had been abandoned, trees, shrubbery, and all sorts of plants had been growing. I'm talking full on forest.

The EPA decided to cut down all the trees, clear out all the plants, put a fence around the area, and a sign that reads that the EPA is helping us...

Helping us how? The only thing I can see what they could've done was de-sulfur the area. But why tear down a mini forest? If things were growing, why not keep it as is. If it hasn't been hurting anything for the decade and a half that it's been abandoned, why touch it?

... /rant

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:27:41 PM
I have heard lots of republicans say they want the EPA, FDA, and other bureaucracies that "hurt the free market".

Many notable economists have done studies suggesting that the FDA has done far more harm than good. We get so caught up on the successes (like banning Thalidomide) that we forget the lives lost due to good drugs being banned. Milton Friedman has an excellent video on the harm the FDA has done.

As for the EPA, I work very closely with two national laboratories that focus on industrial hygiene. Everyone I've talked to there says that 3rd party regulations (accreditations) are far more successful and stricter than the EPA. For example, the EPA says a chemical can only be dumped in some PPM. So, companies bring in water, dilute the chemical to the acceptable PPM, and dump the same amount anyway. They also say that the EPA is way too slow to react.

QueenZira
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 2181 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:16:28 PM
Heck I know places in Chicago that'll give you foie gras on your 'dawgs. (Fusion foodies, gotta love 'em).

But Olestra? I'm pretty sure we got rid of that in the early '90s, I could be wrong but I doubt it.

Crabes
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1049 Posts
Thursday, June 20, 2013 1:13:28 PM
by the way the absinthe you drink is not real absinthe so yes it is banned

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