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Do Men Really Earn More Than Women? [Pic]

Hits: 9327 | Rating: (2.4) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Andrew155
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madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5986 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 10:46:09 AM
and I agree Angillion- sexism affects everyone and is ridiculous.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5986 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 10:44:42 AM
Why not though Gerry? Many men want to do the baby bit- what about gay couples adopting? There is a huge assumption that women will take time off- and men won't. Why - most women I know work up to around 38 weeks then take about 6 months off. after that it is 50/50 male to female who does the school run etc... I think that is unfair all round. Men should not be forced to take one role any more than women the other- and to question an obviously older woman about children when you do not ask a obvious young father the same question highlights an issue. The pay gap is because women tend to have lower paid jobs- and this is very often NOT of their choosing.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11640 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 10:42:00 AM
Madduck - it's because mothers and fathers are treated very differently, mostly due to socialisation.

A father is expected to put work first and can be held back or even sacked if he doesn't without any great risk to the business. There's no chance of a costly (in terms of money and bad publicity) sexism lawsuit if a business passes a man over for promotion because he puts more emphasis on his family, or even if the business sacks him for it.

A father has far less right to time off and is far less likely to take it anyway. For example, the usual maternity leave where I work is a year. The usual paternity leave is a week, which is usually taken as part of the annual holiday entitlement anyway.

While some of that difference is for physical reasons, that doesn't really matter to the employer anyway. Off work is off work, whatever the reason. It still costs the employer the same.

Sexual equality would of course fix this too.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 10:29:07 AM

@ madduck - when a man has a child he doesn't typically take 2 or 3 years off work so... kinda irrelevant if he wants to have more kids. But a company does not want to invest the time/money training a new employee just to have them leave a year later when their biological alarm clock goes off.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 10:27:06 AM

Hooters won't even consider hiring me to wait tables.
How sexist is that!

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5986 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 10:22:38 AM
So, why are men not asked about childcare arrangements ( yes- I know it is technically illegal but..) - children are not just cared for by women, and why the hell was I asked about having any more children last time I went for a interview for a job. Who the hell thinks I am likely to going to have more kids, yet the man in front of me who was about 30- no-one asked HIM. He had yoghurt splurges on the back of his knees, and as we left together he explained his rush to go as he had to pick up his children? Huge kerfuffle in the commons a while back because one MP had to get HIS children... this cuts both ways.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13519 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 10:14:35 AM
Oh ya well when I strip at the titty bar I get waaaay less!!!

JacobTrue13
Male, 18-29, Europe
 260 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 9:52:33 AM
Sickening. This doesn't even come close to accounting for all the studies that have come back with the gender gap result.

And for one thing, we have to ask - why is it that 'female jobs' are less well-paid?

AntEconomist
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 262 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 9:37:48 AM
The remaining 2% to 4% difference drops to insignificance when you account for career hiatuses due to child bearing/rearing.

It amuses me in a bittersweet way when the public finally "gets" something economists have been saying for decades.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 9:22:15 AM
Link: Do Men Really Earn More Than Women? [Pic] [Rate Link] - Have you ever actually considered other possibilities?

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