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Scale Model .50-Cal Machine Gun

Hits: 6658 | Rating: (3.6) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: ElectricEye
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12739 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 8:10:38 AM
@piperfawn

LOL you're a gunsmith now tell me how many guns have you built and converted???

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12739 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 8:04:18 AM
I think the kind they're selling is semi-auto looking for it's detail. The only way a civ can own a full auto is if it's pre 1986 and you have a class 3. The other way is if you're a FFL(gunsmith/dealer) not sure if there's other lic. there for full autos but they can get around the 1986 thing cause they make firearms for government too so without that no one could legally make them.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 5994 Posts
Monday, May 06, 2013 7:59:38 AM
@ Thefatviking: Thanks for the info; I appreciate it.

thefatviking
Male, 18-29, Europe
 202 Posts
Sunday, May 05, 2013 4:41:34 PM
@piperfawn
@Squrlz4Sale
Nope. Full auto conversions aren't easy anymore.
They used to be before the ATF cracked down on the guns that were easy to convert and labeled them "readily convertible" which means that they are legally identical to full blown machine guns.
These days it's still fully possible, but there are only a handful of guns out there that are "easy" to convert. If you just grab any Semi-auto gun and try it without being very skilled with both guns and tool you're just going to break it, make it jam, or have it blow up on you.
The myth of semi-autos being easy to convert is spread by the media, and originated with a bunch of FAKE conversion manuals sold through mail order.
For example the most common one says that you can convert an AK by filing off one sear and sharpening the firing pin. This only results in a so called "out of battery fire" which blows up the whole gun.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 5994 Posts
Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:29:03 PM
@ Gerry: I think you're going for the funny there and not trying to make a point, right? Because a single .22 bullet is deadly and a .22-cal machine gun is no toy--even if it might look like one next to a 50-cal.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 5994 Posts
Sunday, May 05, 2013 12:24:38 PM
@ Skypirate: Thanks for the info.

@ Piperfawn: Thanks for the info. I'm trying to learn as much as I can about guns and gun laws lately so I can figure out where I stand on the issue.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3641 Posts
Sunday, May 05, 2013 11:04:06 AM
Squrlz4Sale the ban on fully auto gun is fair but not the solution. Anyone with a semi auto gun can tranform it in full auto with just few bucks,a rasp and very few time. When the nra affictionados tell to you that the sell of full auto guns is prohibited they are just confusing the debate. Every semi auto gun can be transformed in full auto really easily.

thefatviking
Male, 18-29, Europe
 202 Posts
Sunday, May 05, 2013 9:50:18 AM
It's such a shame that toys like this now cost like 25 grand because of the Hough's amendment of '86.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Sunday, May 05, 2013 6:43:56 AM

I thought it wasn't legal to own cannons.
How is this legal!



skypirate
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 1983 Posts
Sunday, May 05, 2013 1:31:48 AM
~scratches head~ I thought it was illegal for the public to own machine guns. And yet it looks like there's a company online that's selling them. Can one of I-A-B's gun experts explain, please?


ok. so i went to thier website and heres what i found.

on the home page they offered 2 different products. one was a belt fed upper for the ar 15. uppers do not control how rounds are passed with one trigger pull (IE auto, burst, semi). uppers dont even have serial numbers. they are selling you a .22 belt fed upper that you can attach to any lower you own.

second product is a 1919 semi auto miniature...so you can buy a semi auto. they are a weapons manufacture and are allowed to build and test full auto firearms. kinda like colt is allowed to build, test and sell m4s to the US military. the company owns that firearm, not a person.

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 5674 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 11:29:34 PM
Y'know, even I could have a lot of fun with one of those...

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 10264 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:21:34 PM
That would be great for a 5 year old.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 5994 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 6:01:56 PM
@Richanddead: Wow. Thanks for the info!

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1564 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:29:31 PM
Since the Firearms Owners' Protection Act of May 19, 1986, ownership of newly manufactured machine guns has been prohibited to civilians. Machine guns which were manufactured prior to the Act's passage are regulated under the National Firearms Act, but only those manufactured after the ban cannot ordinarily be sold to or owned by civilians.


This is a belt modification for AR-15 or M-16, guns created and first sold for civilain sales in 1963. It is a feed system modification so it only works on already automatic guns. It does not have any way to fire on its own.

The center fire buffer and recoil spring is removed from the butt stock and replaced with the supplied "Razorback" spacer and buffer.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3059 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:13:49 PM

I haven't looked at their web site...yet. When Mcgovern and Whodat show up on this thread I would ask them for some info. They probably know some more details.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3059 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:11:42 PM

Let me rephrase that. Technically it's not a permit, it's a tax stamp. They are roughly 200$ which you can apply for from many class III FFL dealers. I was under the impression that full auto weapons built before 1986 were the only ones legal, so I am not sure how this 22cal machine gun fits that requirement. Since the supply of pre 1986 weapons is shrinking, the price is growing (especially since obama has taken office). From what I hear, starting price for most full auto weapons is over 10,000$ and goes much much higher.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 5994 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:05:17 PM
#Turdburglar: Thanks; that helps. Did you visit the website of the company that's selling these guns? I'd be interested in any thoughts you might have regarding same.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3059 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:04:56 PM

Squirlz - Average joe can't simply order a fully auto gun of any type. It requires a specific permit and lots of cash to blow. The laws vary from state to state. As usual, money talks, and most full auto weapons that are legal to own cost A LOT OF CASH.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:53:49 PM

Power to the people.
Vive les Etats-Unis!

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 5994 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 4:40:20 PM
~scratches head~ I thought it was illegal for the public to own machine guns. And yet it looks like there's a company online that's selling them. Can one of I-A-B's gun experts explain, please?

ElectricEye
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 360 Posts
Saturday, May 04, 2013 3:44:53 PM
Link: Scale Model .50-Cal Machine Gun [Rate Link] - Fires Real .22 Cal bullets. Now in every happy meal!


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