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5-Year-Old Shoots, Kills Little Sister [Safe Pic+]

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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4159 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:12:02 PM
beternal-"having NO lethal weapon in the house."

So, your house has no vehicles, baseball bats, knives, blunt object, frozen turkeys, pesticides or electricity?

beternal-"The safest weapon is no weapon."

Yeah, especially for the criminal coming into your house with a weapon....you not having a weapon is perfectly safe fore them.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:11:40 PM


Remember Eurotwats (mainly UK) everything is beter within the bubble there's no agenda guns are bad unless they're for p[rotection of the royal family because they've never abused the common man....

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3299 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:06:44 PM

What is most disgusting (other than the parents neglecting their responsibility in this case) is the gun grabbers using these two poor children to back their emotional and irrational fear of firearms. If you want to be a scared, irrational, emotional european (a.k.a. europuss) I suppose you have the right. Don't expect us to douche down to your level. With rights come responsibility, and just because a few don't own their responsibility doesn't mean we all loose our rights. You limeys are a sad bunch who have given up your rights for the ridiculous idea of a government run paradise.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33873 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:04:44 PM

Kids die in car accidents, too.
Y'all better stop driving.
I like horses but still too dangerous.
People used to die under the wagon wheels or
got trampled. Looks like we'll have to use
rickshaws .

optimusdrone
Male, 30-39, Canada
 6 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:00:34 PM
Yes, beternal, you are so right.. Now lets not just get rid of those dangerous scary guns.. All those cleaning products under the sink, Deadly.. The gas in my garage, Deadly.. My lawn mower, Deadly. The electrical outlets, Deadly.. Darn, good thing you told us to get all those Deadly things out of our homes.. Although, I'm not sure why no one tries to outlaw forks and electrical outlets whenever some nit-wit fries them self's with those so obviously deadly Items. Oh yeah, cuz we teach our kids to respect those things.. A firearm is not any different.. Parents need to teach their kids safety and respect for any dangerous items in the home. No one in their right mind allows a child to play with drain-o or a firearm.. But if something bad happens it's not the fault of the electrical outlet, fork or firearm..

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:59:51 PM
MeGrendel, that's a rather toothless attack on 780m people, try harder ;)

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4159 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:55:22 PM
Fwoggie2-"Sometimes you Americans scare the absolute hell out of me."

Yes, we know your side of the pond doesn't like teaching kids responsibility until the age of....well, death quite frankley.

peakingo-"Why give a 4 year old any gun period."

Because, under good supervision, it can be a fun and learning experience.

peakingo-"Why leave it in place easily accessible to him."

Because they were stupid.

peakingo-"Why leave a goddamn round in the chamber."

Because they were stupid.

This is no different than leaving the keys in the car. Dangerous when not used properly or under close supervision.

bacon_pie
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 2819 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:55:01 PM
That is just awful. All of my life growing up, there were rifles and pistols in our house. They all were unloaded except one. From an early age, it was drilled into my head to stay away from guns and treat any gun, real or fake, like it was loaded. I knew where they were, but I always kept my distance. On that note, that gun should not have been accessible to the child and the gun cleared. I truly am sorry for the family, but that was a dumb ass move that cost a child her life and probably deterred that boy from ever shooting a gun again.

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:52:49 PM
I've never heard of a 5 year old killing anyone with a fork before.

Geogypsy
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2384 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:49:10 PM
They actually manufacture firearms tailored to kindergarteners?

May as well have held that Crickett to my head; my mind is fracking blown.

Cartunze
Male, 60-69, Western US
 826 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:46:58 PM
I will bet that sales of these rifles increase because of this incident. I would hate to be the neighbor of someone who gives their 4-year-old a rifle as a gift. Kids that young shouldn't even have BB guns.

I don't know about Kentucky but in Wyoming where I grew up, you couldn't get a hunting license until the age of 12. What that meant is that parents could buy an extra hunting license if they took their 12-year-old along with them. That is fine. At twelve, kids can discern that real guns have to be taken seriously. At five, they know they have to act serious when they are around adults but alone or with other kids, the gun is just a toy.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4000 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:40:52 PM
By the way, the stats comparing drowning versus gun death in children are wrong. The stats you're using compare "accidental" gun death of children, like this one, to drowning. Not actual gun death, accidental and not, which is much, much, much higher. Just to be accurate.

beternal
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2184 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:29:57 PM
I love the blase attitude "Just one of those crazy accidents"... that's just sick!

And all those people defending guns, imagine if it was your child! - And tell me what is safer, having a LETHAL WEAPON in the house, teaching someone how to use it (maybe)... or having NO lethal weapon in the house. What do you think is safer?!

The safest weapon is no weapon.

Still, congratulations on your Darwin Award!

BoredFrank
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 1847 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:19:29 PM
I just hope the rifle gets the counseling it will so desperately need, after this senseless tragedy.

DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2612 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:12:53 PM
Tragedy.

But this is more of a "parental failure" than a "guns are evil"

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:11:32 PM
"I fully expect the gun grabbers to milk this cow to death, then beat it further..."

Nah, kids get shot and killed for one reason or another too often in the US to make a political statement every single time it happens. Better to wait until the next school massacre. You get one in the US every 12-18 months or so after all, we won't have too long to wait.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2408 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:08:49 PM
Also here´s a direct copypaste of what I had to say to this elsewhere:

"Note this: I learned to shoot at an early age as well on a rifle designed for youths, but interpreting "made for youths" as "meant to be carried and cared for by youths" instead of "sized down to be a teaching tool for youths under the supervision of an adult" is ignorant at best. Their poor storage of the firearm and failure to check that the chamber was cleared promotes more firearms education, not more fear mongering or finger pointing. It´s about like trying to blame the bicycle when a child of the same age as in this article falls off one and splits their head on the pavement because the parents failed to supervise them or keep them from getting at it on their own."

peakingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 687 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:04:51 PM
Why give a 4 year old any gun period. Why leave it in place easily accessible to him. Why leave a goddamn round in the chamber.

I've written this before and I'll do it again, "though we all have the right to own a gun, some people shouldn't".

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:03:13 PM
"There is no problem with a 5 year old learning to shoot under supervision."

Sometimes you Americans scare the absolute hell out of me.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2408 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:02:58 PM
German law states age 10 and above for the range and only under parental supervision. Even then it´s limited to air rifles and .22 or .25 caliber firearms until the age of 15 if I recall correctly. Quite sensible.

However, the gun was not at fault here, and I also learned to handle a gun early on, age 6 in fact. Though I was never allowed to handle the gun on my own and it was stored in a locked cabinet with the other guns. In short, parenting fail.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:00:21 PM
McGovern1981,

Yeah, just an everyday accident, could have been anything. Nothng to see here.



Tell me the stories you see published of a kid drowning in a pool. It happens more than this but people don't flip out and demand pool control now do they?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 23875 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:57:16 PM
No Charges Expected? Update!
Obviously the parent(s) should face charges. It's nothing short of criminal neglect.

@Andrew155: That's an excellent point! This sort of gun is the LAST thing that would be "banned" under proposed "gun laws". Single shot, bolt action, .22?

This is a tragic death, but NO WORSE than a child drowning in a pool or spa! And that happens a LOT more often to children under age 5.

I fully expect the gun grabbers to milk this cow to death, then beat it further...

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4099 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:53:02 PM
McGovern1981,

Yeah, just an everyday accident, could have been anything. Nothng to see here.

Rick_S
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 3155 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:52:35 PM
Auburnjunky said it really well.

"Firearm responsibility can be taught at any age. These parents just suck."

There's no reason for a gun to be out where a 2 year old has access to it. It should have been locked up.

This was an avoidable tragedy that simple gun safety would have prevented.

thesandwich
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 151 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 1:46:01 PM
So leaving a .22 in the corner of the room, never even bothering to do an action check to see if its loaded before the kid grabbed it. Not teaching the kid to never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy (regardless if its loaded or not) along with not teaching the kid to keep your finger out of the trigger guard unless you intend to shoot.
And somehow all of this is a "crazy accident"?

This isn't an accident, its negligence on the parent's part. So many things you can do and teach to prevent a tragedy, and everyone of them ignored by the parents.

However, like damn near everything else we don't blame the parents but blame the "guns, videogames, music, insert demon of the day here".

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