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DashCam Captures Bagram Crash

Hits: 6126 | Rating: (3.1) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25685 Posts
Friday, May 03, 2013 3:27:14 PM
@MacBeth702: This Russian Crash?

Sorry, but I think it's real: CNN Thinks So

And Here Too

But I'm happy you "de-lurked" anyhow!

MacBeth702
Female, 50-59, Western US
 3 Posts
Friday, May 03, 2013 10:39:16 AM
@5Cats and it also happened in Russia in Dec 2012. Same exact footage.
@ cazalicious put your money where your mouth is. Hahaha get it?
I don't usually comment.... but come on people!

cazalicious
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 4 Posts
Thursday, May 02, 2013 9:50:25 PM
@MacBeth: I can guarantee you this was not "shopped" in any way. As a member of the USAF, I can vouch for the currency and validity of this video.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25685 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:18:41 PM
@MacBeth: I think you may be mistaken since this just happened.

Link please!

MacBeth702
Female, 50-59, Western US
 3 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 2:08:06 PM
Please people. They showed us on IAB months ago how the whole video was photo shopped.

peakingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 687 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 11:06:24 AM
@kain1: no, I've seen plane crashes before and there's an expansion of pressure and metal. In all cases, this results in a explosive sound.

Especially when fuel is ignited. The impact alone would've made noise.


irunfast86
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 347 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 8:11:53 AM
huh he didn't scream at all. i would have been like a black man in a movie theater.

Burgh
Male, 40-49, Western US
 292 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 6:38:31 AM
Seems a pretty steady troop that filmed it. No panic mode and he seemed to figure on avoiding the intersection and possible IED's while driving closer.

McThstlpnts
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 1494 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 5:33:00 AM
That's awful

Kain1
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1463 Posts
Wednesday, May 01, 2013 3:52:18 AM
@peakingo: I think you've been watching too many movies. Planes don't explode when they crash. The fireball is just a fireball..

Cartunze
Male, 60-69, Western US
 834 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:09:02 PM
DingDingDong, I think you nailed it. I saw this video this morning and saw right away that the plane was in a stall at the beginning of the video. I was thinking that there was a malfunction in the controls. Since it just took off and would have been in a climb, a shifting cargo load would cause it to go into the stall and would be the more likely cause.

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:02:10 PM
DingDingDong - I work for DHL (It wasn't our plane btw) - we have computers to instantly figure all that crap out.

peakingo
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 687 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:26:17 PM
Where's the Earth shattering kaboom?!

Seriously, how is that I can hear his engine rev, but not hear the crash or explosion at all.


5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25685 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:42:40 PM
@carmium & @HalfPintRoo: Those "squeaky" noises MIGHT (I'm just guessing) have been him reporting to base. He's an Army guy, on duty, British I think. He doesn't "have time" to get all emotional...

He does cuss at one point...

Anyhow, what is there to say? Some people react to seeing the unthinkable with silence, eh?

I know I would be talking! A mile a minute!

HalfPintRoo
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 2475 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:22:26 PM
How come these people never have a reaction?

You would have heard me scream, cry, gasp, SOMETHING

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6406 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:22:14 PM
I don't get why we can hear engine, voice, and road noises, yet the driver watches the crash without so much as a "huh." What's going on??

DingDingDong
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1504 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:17:28 PM
Very sad video.
I'm a just student pilot. But my first thoughts were a shift in cargo caused it to be uncontrollable. Too much weight in the rear prevented the controls from nosing down.
I've spent hours and hours learning how to calculate the center of gravity based off cargo load. And that's for a tiny plane.
I'd hate to be the guy that "secured" the cargo for that flight!

cazalicious
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 4 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:34:41 PM
The 747 can carry more cargo than the C-5... which was basically built to transport the M1A1 - everything else just happened to fit. This particular 747 was indeed a cargo configuration and with 99.9% certainty, it was aft load shift that brought them down (someone didn't properly restrain the cargo).

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3710 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:53:19 PM
I have to agree with the idea of loose/shifting cargo and I bet it was overloaded. Why would they load that sh*t on a 747 anyway? That's what the C-5 Galaxy is made for.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10126 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:53:14 PM
This is one of my nightmares, for this to happen in front of me while driving. Every time I see a plane in the air flying below 10,000, I get nervous.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1258 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:50:44 PM
WTF? As a professional pilot, I can tell you that looks weird. Really weird.

First, certainly not shot down.

Second, almost certainly impossible by aerodynamic control of the aircraft - i.e. it could not achieve that attitude simply by mishandling. Not to prejudge the enquiry, I would be very surprised if that aircraft was not a long way out of centre-of-gravity limits, probably too far to have reached flying speed without a tailstrike (in a previous incident a mis-loaded 747-400 rotated without control input at 58 kts, although that one got airborne and actually landed safely).

Therefore a load shift in flight (probably as it rotated) would be my guess; an educated guess, but only a guess until the details come in.

An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 866 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:33:57 PM
No, it happened yesterday.

Ani187
Female, 30-39, Midwest US
 4546 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:27:33 PM
It was carrying cargo and the crew. I think the article I read said 5 Army vehicles plus other cargo. So, it could very well have been a result of said cargo coming loose/shifting.

CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2075 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:21:13 PM
Elsewhere on the web, folks are saying that perhaps a load became unsecured and shifted towards the back- I read that a couple of hours ago, I guess. I'm unaware if this was if this was a cargo carrier or not, but I've witnessed ships flounder in similar scenarios.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25685 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:20:03 PM
The internet says: Crash Report

Reporting Website

The date stamp in the video is wrong, this just happened today (afaik).

The car is a military one, a K-9 unit (you can hear the dog).
Apparently the Taliban IS trying to claim they shot it down, but no one believes them.

@ruTenrMan: Yes. The normal crew is only 2, but 5 others were on board.

The theory is that the load may have shifted & caused the stall, since there seems to be nothing visibly wrong otherwise. JUST a theory at this point!

It's horrific, unforgettable...

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