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Which Religion Cares Most About the Homeless [Pic]

Hits: 8354 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Draculya
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Langer
Male, 18-29, Europe
 391 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:26:39 PM
@Langer: Yes! The act of "religion" is entirely human


heh, I was pretty much taking the piss with that...as funny as it would be, I doubt I could say that my religion consists of Yahweh, Buddha, Crash Bandicoot, Remilia Scarlet and Super Ted, while keeping a straight face

I would characterise religion more based on the practices and traditions (such as the phrase, "he washes his hand religiously"), however that would also include posting in say /r/atheism, which is really just one huge circlejerk of attempted superiority (as a side note, /r/nongolfers/ is pretty good for being facetious about actively not golfing )

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:05:47 PM
patchgrabber,

monsterzero already tried that he got counter trolled.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:00:10 PM
it is "a belief" which requires "faith" since it's impossible to prove one way or the other...

FFS you don't need faith. As I explained before, everyone's default position is atheistic, as you must be taught religion, and any change from that position requires sufficient "proof" or faith, or whatever. A baby is atheistic, would you say it actively believes there is no God?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26233 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:56:50 PM
This "beggar" is just a slick con-man.

I suggest lighter fluid followed by lit wooden matches...

@Langer: Yes! The act of "religion" is entirely human. A belief in "a God" requires faith, which is also human.
Belief in "NO God" is exactly the same: it is "a belief" which requires "faith" since it's impossible to prove one way or the other...

But I'll not get into THAT again! Let some others have fun with it! Cheers!

Langer
Male, 18-29, Europe
 391 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:46:54 PM
If atheism is a religion, wouldn't that make religion effectively mental cooties?

Imagine something/anything supernatural, tell someone, then believe or disbelieve it and it is instantly a part of your religion by 'touching' you

Well...that's one way to skew a definition into complete ambiguity

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4784 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:11:53 PM
ak

That's a pretty touchy definition of 'bash'.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:01:59 PM
@ak4: Oh, I didn't see it. Doesn't make it any less possible though. Besides this whole religion thing is moot anyway as it has been shown that you can duplicate religious experience with magnetic fields aimed at the temporal lobes. Combine this with fMRI results showing increased temporal lobe activity (especially left) in those having spiritual experiences, or every medical student being taught that epileptic seizures in the left temporal lobe causes patients to have intense spiritual experiences during those seizures. The most valid theory is that religion and deities are simply a product of our own brains.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:54:00 AM
patchgrabber,

monsterzero already tried that he got counter trolled.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5726 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:47:56 AM
And yet they seem to have netted the most cash.

Or he just moved it to make the religious types want give more.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:44:17 AM
"Methodists do not recognise each other in the liquor store." lordjim

Second bash.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:42:26 AM
lordjim,

Christians are not new but a variant on the Jewish faith. i didn't say they have to disbelieve all of the former religion.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:38:05 AM
itunes on shuffle playing tim minchin

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4784 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:35:56 AM
But first;

Jews do not recognise Jesus as the messiah.

Protestants do not recognise the Pope as Christ's representative on earth.

Methodists do not recognise each other in the liquor store.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:35:50 AM
lordjim,

i don't except that religion needs a belief supernatural being. that's where we differ.

Draculya,

then, well play.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5976 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:35:00 AM
Ah Lordjim- do tell- I largely like her work because she demonstrates good sense- I took her argument to be the presentation of some of his work rather than the content. Midgely takes the tone of a good headmistress. however- I still think my point holds good- whilst generally atheism denotes lack of belief, some atheist treat tenets of their disbelief as they would a belief. I think that makes sense... ( give me 1800 words and I'm good LOL...

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4784 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:32:30 AM
ak,

'the start of ever religion began with the disbelief in the former religion.'

Not really. Christians don't disbelieve in Abraham or Moses, they believe they have fulfilled and perfected an existing but incomplete truth.

Muslims do not disbelieve in Abraham, Moses or Jesus, but that ... as above.

This has been fun but I have to cook dinner now.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:27:04 AM
lordjim,

the start of ever religion began with the disbelief in the former religion.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4784 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:25:46 AM
ak,

It's moving so fast that you answered my point just before I made it.

Is Raelism a religion? Or just irrational nonsense? Buddhism has many variants but a huge number of buddhists do regard buddha as a being to whom prayers can be made. That is at variance with learned buddhist philosophy but the the unlettered and unlearned do it anyway. I would regard buddhism as a philosophy rather than a religion but a philosophy which believes that certain practices can reveal a spiritual dimension.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:24:43 AM
LordJim,

it is, fast and fun.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:23:25 AM
"Mary Midgely was a sound good philosopher in her time" lordjim

religious texts are older.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12564 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:23:00 AM
"Draculya congrats you the posts first religion bash-er."

That's what I do best.

I was actually bashing agnosticism; religion was just a side swipe.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:20:43 AM
at monsterzero
you trolled it first, I counter trolled you.

PinkRhoid
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1242 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:20:00 AM
Silly bum, atheism and agnosticism aren't religions.


And yet they seem to have netted the most cash.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4784 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:17:38 AM
Ak,

(May I call you AK?)

No worries, it's a fast moving topic. Fun, eh?

'but a belief in the lack of gods does imply the start of a religion.'

You are going to have to join the dots for me on that one, since I define religion as a shared system of belief based on a supernatural being, which may or may not be petitioned.

At it's simplest atheism to be is just finding no good reason to believe in any god and finding vey good reasons to disbelieve in any specified god.

ak47reaper
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 117 Posts
Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:15:20 AM
at lordjim
"religion is a shared belief system based around a supernatural being."

Buddhism, Raelism are religions that don't believe in supernatural being.

Religion is an organized collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.[

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