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NC Proposes State Religion Law [Pic+]

Hits: 6818 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: SmagBoy1
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carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6406 Posts
Friday, April 05, 2013 10:48:31 PM
Think I'll cross North Carolina of the bucket list...

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Friday, April 05, 2013 1:21:19 PM
I think the last line of the article says it all:

Article 1, Section 5 of the North Carolina Constitution requires the state to observe federal law: "Every citizen of this State owes paramount allegiance to the Constitution and government of the United States, and no law or ordinance of the State in contravention or subversion thereof can have any binding force."


Doesn't that kinda nip it in the bud?

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Friday, April 05, 2013 9:23:46 AM
I weep for the state of NC

2L82Pray
Female, 30-39, Southern US
 67 Posts
Friday, April 05, 2013 8:59:17 AM
I've lived in NC off and on for 5 years (not by choice) and I'm leaving soon (by Choice, thank God!). It's my DEVOUT Wish never to come back here. In fact, I never want to come back to the SOUTH, because of ISH like this and I'm From the South.

Let me tell you how Intelligent these Bible thumping moral police are. I have to go down to Augusta, GA for a few days. I stop in at a local grocery store, on a Sun, and pick up a bottle of wine (in my state, liquor store closed on Sun, Wine/Beer at grocery store...OK). The clerk tells me she can't sell me the Wine, It's Sunday. BUT..she says seeing my shock, if I want there are several restaurants open down the street and they serve alcohol on Sunday. I say, So what you're telling me is that I can't buy a bottle of wine, go home and drink it in the privacy and safety of my home, but I can go drink at a bar and Drive home druk. Everyone in line behind me started laughing. Religion should NOT hold public Office!!

mikesex
Male, 60-69, Europe
 72 Posts
Friday, April 05, 2013 7:02:05 AM
Gerry: don't be too sure about the Buddhists, either.

try googling Buddhist Muslim violence Burma

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Friday, April 05, 2013 6:30:28 AM

Fancysuckss,
"Are Christians trying to start poo again? I know not all Christians are like this."

Yes they are. If you take your mundane, average-Joe Christian off the street and put him in this job he'll behave the same way. All religious people do, any religion. Religion does something to the brain. They can't handle positions of power, the first thing they try do is legislate their version of God. Examples: No alcohol sales on Sundays, posting the 10 commandments on the courthouse walls, putting "under God" in the national pledge even though it was fine without it for 100 years.

It's like they don't have responsibility any longer 'cuase it's "Gods will". If they harm people they didn't do it, those sinners brought it on themselves. No compassion, no mercy, no tolerance.

Except Buddhists. They don't care what you do as long as you don't hurt someone. Very cool religion... as religions go.

schecter5
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 412 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 10:25:09 PM
I'm from Georgia, I currently live in Florida, and my family owns land in NC. I'm completely not ok with this. Believe what you want. If you don't want to separate church from state, then why not include buddhism as well? Maybe islam or hinduism? Don't be a Ferking biggot.

Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1316 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:22:06 PM
It's not really in the middle of nowhere, the problem is that it's neighboring Fayetteville, which is far from a "charming" city.

I've never made it up to Lejeune, but I hear good things about it. One of my soldiers goes up there to see his uncle almost every weekend. He says it's pretty nice.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3733 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:48:09 PM
@Kegomatix - Ouch, Ft Bragg is in the middle of nowhere isn't it? I've never been there but that's what it looks like.

@TheGuySmiley - I'm not talking about apologies or anything like that. I was just replying to jackbluessel who asked, "Got any examples of anything else "evil" or "oppressive"?"

Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1316 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:17:44 PM
@Whodat

I know what you mean. Fort Bragg for the last 3 years and I've hated every minute of it. I miss Fort Lewis...

ak4775
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 369 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:10:46 PM
These types of laws don't pass and if state legislature passes them they don't last long. Just as N. Dakota passed a no abortion after conception law it WILL be struck down.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 4:02:18 PM
TheGuySmiley, no one, and I mean NO ONE is saying they "can't pray." Let's not lie about what's going on. Just the opposite, the court said that they CAN pray, just that, on public property performing public-funded, public business, prayers had to be non-denominational.

No court or law has ever limited the right of a Christian to pray in his/her own home, his/her own church or privately, to him/herself, no matter where he is. Let's not pretend.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:43:21 PM
FoSchizle: they're simply trying to "nullify any federal ruling against Christian prayer by public bodies statewide." Basically they're saying that "oh so you say we can't pray? well we're saying we can."

fancythat: You're entitled to your opinion, but it's a bit biased, and you might benefit from reading: Is Christianity a cult? (it's quite short)

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:38:20 PM
Well, okay, I was wrong. Seems the bill *has* been killed. For now. She that story here.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:36:01 PM
whodat6484: Lest the intentions are really gratuitous attacks against religion, not condemnation against atrocities altogether.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:35:57 PM
Oh, this WILL pass. It essentially already has. And Christianity WILL be made the state religion of North Carolina. Then, someone will have to go through the hassle and cost and pain in the ass of taking it to court where NC will be told to get their poo together. But, even though the law will be invalidated, they won't take it off the books (see TX sodomy laws, for example, which, while are no longer enforceable are still on the books). Yes, this IS scary poo right here.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:35:36 PM
Good for them, prayer is always a good thing. So nulifying a ruling that prohibits prayer by public bodies likely will be good.. even though some people will get angry with it.

patchouly: be the change you want to see in the world.. if you want to see less hatred and evil, time to man up and start living that way, that includes judging others, and putting them down.

Gerry1of1: exactly

whodat6484: Most Christians have no trouble in apologizing for atrocities involving Christianity, even though they weren't personally responsible. To be honest and objective in condemnations of atrocities, whether caused by religion or secular movements, people should be equally considerate, apologizing for the proportionally larger atrocities committed by cultural leaders, espousing godless, non-theistic Utopian ideologies, within the "enlightened" 20th century alone.........cont.

Fancysucksss
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1051 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:15:50 PM
Are Christians trying to start poo again? I know not all Christians are like this.
But this is scary poo.
This shouldn't be able to pass, so I'm not worried.
But if this kind of mentality persists we are gonna have to slap some sense into them and forcefully educate them about the separation of church and state and the bloody history thinking like this has brought.
So blind..so many walking blind in an imagined light

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3733 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 2:25:51 PM
No, the actual base itself is fine. The surrounding cities/towns suck. The only city in NC I really liked was Greenville, NC which was about an hour and a half drive. That's where ECU is and we used to go there a lot to get liquored up and get laid. All there is in Jacksonville are strippers, skanks, barracks rats, and STD's.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 2:00:05 PM

@ whodat - you're supposed to hate Camp Lejeune.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3733 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:40:25 PM
I was never a fan of NC, I spent over 6 years (minus deployments) stationed at Camp Lejeune and hated it.

Kegomatix
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1316 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:11:17 PM
Oh I hate this state... Can't wait to leave it for good, which is next week!! Woohoo!

fancythat
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1963 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 1:05:37 PM
All religions are cults. Talking to invisible ghosts or their supposed zombie kids. Whatever. You can have your religion, just keep it off my fcking lawn.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:09:22 PM

I'm okay with this as long as the choose the Jedi Church as the state religion.


madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 6028 Posts
Thursday, April 04, 2013 11:53:57 AM
Actually Patchouly- Satanists are perfectly decent and reasonable- what is it? - Do what you will, but pay for it... sounds perfectly reasonable to me!!

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