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Patton's Speech To The Modern Army

Hits: 4393 | Rating: (2.7) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: auburnjunky
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10187 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 12:46:59 PM
Touche Robo.

RoboPatton
Male, 30-39, Western US
 2429 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 11:10:30 AM
"We need a new Patton"

Are you saying my programming is inadequate?
...Initiating QQ.exe

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2228 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:59:02 AM
This is a tricky thing to understand, admittedly I have trouble with it myself sometimes. A bond is nothing more than a IOU with a promise to repay the principle with additional interest, basically nothing but a promise. If we use Cyprus as the example, The Cyprus National Bank is buying up it's governments bonds allowing the government to run huge deficits. In return the government should have to pay more interest to the banks, yet now it isn't as creditworthy but it is allowed to because it is considered to big to fail.

Cyprus had to pony up 5.8 billion Euros over the weekend or else they couldn't have received any assistance from the ECB so the banks used the money they had on hand, the money of people who had their savings in the bank. That's what you are talking about, but the ECB also infused 10 billion newly printed Euros once the 5.8 Billion seized was accounted for. Yet Cyprus is still in need of 3 billion Euros more.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:50:58 AM
Anyway in your examples CBE is not printing money out of nothing, for example in Greece is exchanging bond with money, not void space with money.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:47:53 AM
richanddead not so sure about what you say.In Cyprus for example money are taken directly from people's bank account, and the ECB grant the rest of money, i don't think ECB print new money for that, ECB allready have money to cover this operation.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2228 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:21:03 AM
If our countries did not print money, both our countries unemployment figures would sore and the EU could not afford to keep Spain, Italy, Greece, Ireland, or Cyprus without crumbling financially or politically.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2228 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 6:16:29 AM
@piperfawn:

"We don't print money out of nothing when we need thems."

Although I agree our country should not be flagrantly printing out money. The EU has been printing out money, just not directly. The ECB will accept the dodgy Greek bonds as collateral, and will provide the country's commercial banks with freshly printed euros. This is necessary to keep Greece a float but is essentially printed euros for valueless Greek IOU's.

Another way is through The Emergency Liquidity Assistance program. This allows National Central Banks to provide liquidity beyond and above the regular refinancing operations. This is how Cyprus is currently staying afloat.




McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 5:57:08 AM
but now it fights for oil.


ROFL!!! That's the only thing types like you can say. Now tell me if it were about oil why didn't we annex you......


That and the whole we're no longer in Iraq thing.

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 851 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:53:17 PM
Oh come on now just admit your own country willingly participated instead of making pathetic excuses. You begin to sound like @piperfawn after awhile.

Funny none of your celebrities or athletes are ashamed to come accept our money though right?

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:46:44 PM
djwajda: no doubt, especially when it was tricked by the king of terror under the guise of 'freedom and justice'

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 851 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:30:26 PM
Real shame when you condemn a country for a war that your own country participated in.

TheGuySmiley
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1222 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 1:46:09 PM
If it was today they'd have to say "we are the world's number one terrorist regime, join us to bring terror to the world" to be truthful. But really, if it was redone for today they'd likely say something like "we are bringing freedom and justice to the world", and it would only need a Swastika in the background, and they could call it a day.

Real shame that the nation used to fight for freedom, but now it fights for oil. I guess G.I. Joe lost the battle back in the 80s.. which is why the show ended. Looks like Cobra, the ruthless terrorist organization determined to rule the world finally took over.

Poor nation.....

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:57:46 AM
CrakrJak the debt is a problem also for your "splendid capitalist" country, but there is a difference. We don't print money out of nothing when we need thems. Your central bank have as principal function to create dollars out of thin air, our BCE don't do that. if our central bank start to print euros like fresh water on a mountain fall we will be the most powerfull country in the planet, but you know, respect rules is only for the bravest.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:36:20 AM
chalket: There are different types of fascism, but the underpinning of that system is the scapegoating of a group of people. Russia was both communist and fascist, they did (and still do) persecute Jews.

piperfawn: Your countries are so overloaded with debt because of the overburden of social welfare programs. That problem is not because of capitalism, that's because of unionists/communists creating an unfair and unprofitable business environment.

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 851 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 11:12:42 AM
@piperfawn:

Awwwwwww, it isn't cool when someone generalizes your entire country because of 1 or 2 individuals now is it?

Funny, I can talk about the so called 'power' in my country any way I wish, good or bad. See, when you like to sit there and take shots at my country in nearly every post, sooner or later it's going to come back at you. And so sorry you don't like it.

See, my grandfather fought for freedom too. I too fought for my country in a time of war. I've more than earned the right to criticize or praise my country just as so many other I-A-Ber's have.

So please by all means continue to do and say the things you do. Myself and others will be right here to throw it right back at ya.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:48:20 AM
And we are not depending on the state for our income, is the states that are depending on banks nowaday. This seems to me more a "capitalistic" way than a "communist" way. Sorry CJ but you will never convince me that the actual crisis is due to "communism". This world crisis was organized,created and put operative by your sistem, not by feking communists. For the sake of the truth.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:44:55 AM
@Crakr
uh, what? Which one are you warning about, fascism or communism? You DO know they are entirely different, right? The more you know!

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:43:39 AM
CrakrJak i don't agree with your opinion,is the exact reverse. Europe has taken distance from "communism" and embraced more your style starting from the 80's. The crisis we are living was created by YOUR contry with toxic titles,speculation and fraudolents financials operations by financials bandits born, raised and operating in US, not sure by communists.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17310 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 10:34:01 AM
piperfawn: I have a feeling that you wouldn't know what real fascism is until it snuck up and bit you in the ass, then it would be too late.

Europe has been on the slow decline into communism since the 1990's. The more your people are dependent on the state for their income, the worse things will get. Soon the Eurozone will hit a crisis so insurmountable that you will all beg for communism as the supposed relief for your troubles, then it will be too late. Then you will know firsthand what fascism is because they will trot out scapegoats before you and kill them.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:59:59 AM
My family fought Mussolini during the war


So did Patton.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:46:32 AM
djwajda as you wish, fascist or nazi, they are the same scum. If you think that your sentence could hurt me just cause Mussolini was italian you are wrong. My family fought Mussolini during the war, they were partisans, the brother of my grand dad was sended to Poland in a camp by the feking fascists, he managed to escape and he come back here on foot. This is the difference between me and you. You can talk bad about Mussolini as you want and i will agree with that, i will not get mad cause he was born in Italy. If i talk bad of any of your president you take it as an insult for your country,that's the difference. And people that act like you most probably live in a nation where they teach you that talking bad about the power is "illegal" just like fascists and nazis have done.

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 851 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:24:20 AM
Actually he sounded more like that loveable Italian Mussolini...

In all seriousness though this made a valid point, people today don't really understand what it means to actually fight for freedom

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 15095 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 9:18:11 AM
Of course, he could still be alive today. He'd only be 127.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 8:45:04 AM
Just put a clawed cross on it and the picture is complete. He talk like a feking nazi.

elderban
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 383 Posts
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 7:54:54 AM
If "Patton" is going to speak about freedom, he needs to be speaking about the politicians for they are the ones taking our freedoms away, not some non-existent boogeyman in the Middle East. The politicians are just using the "War on Terror" as a reason to take our freedoms away. Sorry, "Mr. Patton", but your speech does not work today.

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