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Video Used In US Schools For The Past Decade [Pic+

Hits: 7473 | Rating: (2.1) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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Palfas
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 410 Posts
Monday, April 01, 2013 10:26:53 AM
Wow, that quiz question stated we were to blame.

Oh wait, no it didn't, fracking morons. Please stop spreading your anti-liberal war hawk propaganda.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1712 Posts
Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:51:49 AM
This is why Al Qaeda first attacked us by ground (1st word trade center and embassy bombings), then sea (the Cole bombing), then air (Bojinka plot, and sept.11). It was to send a message that they could attack anybody, anywhere.

This is also the reason why Al Qaeda does not solely target Americans and their allies. But they also have targeted and attempted to kill the Chinese, Koreans, Indians, Japanese, Filipinos, and Taiwanese citizenry. But still chooses anyone that is Jewish, Kurdish, or Shi'ite Muslim as its main targets. It is a religious Jihad not a simply a political uprising.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1712 Posts
Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:02:10 AM
@madduck: "Al Queda blew up the Twin Towers because of American policy...Teaching children cause and effect is just common sense"

Again, I believe you're over simplifying it, Al Queda is not a political independence movement. They, not me, describe themselves as a Sunni Muslim religious movement conducting global Jihad to unite the world under Sharia Law. UBL claimed that the only forign policy he was upset with was that the US was friends with Israel and that there were US troops in Saudi Araba.

Yet we almost always advocate restraint to Israel and pay large sums of money to secure it. And Saudi Arabia had asked for and consented to the presence of US troops, especially for the purposes protecting their oil fields against terrorist attack and of training their own military.
Proving that Al Qaeda was a true military power in the globe and could strike anywhere, was far more the point, yet again, not the only one.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1712 Posts
Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:00:35 AM
@FoolsPrussia: Jones Town was not as much a mass cult suicide as is often popularized, many wanted to leave which is why Congressman Leo Ryan came. Some 200 sent secret messages to Ryan asking to leave with him yet he was later assassinated as he was leaving with the people (which I think is terrorism in itself). Jones knew that after that he would be arrested and exposed, so he forced his congregation to drink poison at gun point, telling them that a Guyanese Defense Force was on its way to massacre them in horrible ways. In reality it was to hide fact that he was a sham not because he thought the world was ending as Madduck had said. He even had zealot guards patrolling to make sure no one lived. Some resisted and were later found to be given injections of poison. Here is a
link.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3397 Posts
Saturday, March 30, 2013 7:41:49 AM
I don't think mass cult suicides can be considered acts of terrorism, at least not in an outward sense. Terrorism is about using violence to threaten or spread fear amongst a population. Most cult leaders only manipulate their own followers into death, and thus keep the terror inwardly focused. There are probably exceptions to that, though, but I wouldn't call Heaven's Gate an act of terror.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5192 Posts
Saturday, March 30, 2013 1:30:06 AM
Right- you are muddling up word usage- Jim Jones ( is that him??) killed all his followers because he thought the world was ending. That is the CAUSE, was he right....... no. Al Queda blew up the Twin Towers because of American policy. At no point was it suggested that this action was right or reasonable... but it was the reason. Teaching children cause and effect is just common sense...

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1853 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 11:35:28 PM
Liberals believe Islam IS the enemy.Idiots don't. Only an Idiot doesn't know that.

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1853 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 11:27:58 PM
OldOllie must have been touched by a liberal.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12964 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 9:09:30 PM
Liberals ruin everything they touch.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 11505 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 7:25:53 PM
It's a mixture of several causes, but chief among them is Islam's (largely unwarranted) offence at US culture and the US' foreign policy.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10210 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 6:01:52 PM
I'm with richanddead on this one though. Our foreign policy did play a role but it was only part of the equation.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10210 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 5:59:21 PM
Do you think Bin Laden would have been a peacful man not wanting fundy Islam to rule all??


UBL said it himself dude, he attacked us because of our presence in the Middle East

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1712 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 3:27:12 PM
And seriously, terrorism happens many times without any provocation.









McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 3:19:42 PM
@paperduck

Probably because he would've died fighting Russia. Then there would be a group blaming us for not helping them.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1712 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 3:14:48 PM
I can see a lesson on the "different" reasons why terrorists might attack, and yes foreign policy may be in that. But listing it solely as American foreign policy I think is far to narrow. Al Qaeda has attacked plenty of places where the US was not involved and usually targets any place that accepts Jews, Kurdish, or Shi'ite Muslims.

Places where Al Qaeda attacked that had nothing to do with any American or European involvement. They were done to kill innocent civilians and to show Al Qaeda's far reaching strength:


the 2004 Khobar massacre
the Danish-embassy bombing
Imam Ali Mosque bombing
Ashura bombings
Sadr City, Iraq bombings
February 2007 Baghdad market bombing
2007 Tal Afar bombings and massacre
April 2007 Baghdad Iraq bombings
25 October 2009 Baghdad bombings
April 2010 Baghdad bombings
10 May 2010 Iraq attacks
2 November 2010 Baghdad bombings
January 2011 Iraq suicide attacks

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5684 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 2:56:09 PM
NEWS FLASH: American children actually being educated, parents outraged.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3397 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 2:30:56 PM
"Love it when someone gets proven wrong and they ignore that post and continue on with others as if nothings been said. It's funny."

You must really love this site.

Link_Hiei
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 5188 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 2:27:36 PM
Love it when someone gets proven wrong and they ignore that post and continue on with others as if nothings been said. It's funny.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1684 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 2:13:21 PM
Saying we're a powerful nation and our decisions sometimes affect other countries negatively is perfectly rational and intelligent, not to mention TRUE.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1684 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 2:08:57 PM
McGovern "Say there was nothing to place blame on us for them. Do you think Bin Laden would have been a peacful man not wanting fundy Islam to rule all??"

There's no way to be certain, but that's a good mental exercise. Let's say we didn't support muhajadeen in afghanistan in the war against the soviet union or didn't abandon them afterward into a decades long civil war. It's unlikely a bin laden character would have emerged.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1684 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 2:02:08 PM
What exactly was said in this video that was wrong?

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 1:29:52 PM
Talking about the AQ attack on London..

2 or 3 weekends later I was in Covent Garden to meet a friend for beers (planned months before). I was early so the only bar open at 11am (we'd travelled a long way so it was gonna be an early finish) was the Maple Leaf. Which as you'd think caters to the Canadian ex pats.

There I was, with 4 Canadian backpackers (complete with the maple leaf flag on their rucksacks) and some bar staff. I politely asked how long they'd been in the UK, which after some watch consulting turned out to be about 6 hrs. "Still" they said, "we nearly cancelled because of the terrorist attack".

"What terrorist attack?"
"Er... the AQ one?"
"Oh, that one", I said.
"You've had more than 1?!"
"Yes, haven't you heard of the IRA? You didn't wander why it's so hard to find a rubbish bin in London?"
<Cue 15 minute briefing on the Northern Ireland situati

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 1:25:14 PM
Could not possibly have been because of our policies, our support of the US, our monetary policies etc... no- nothing like that at all.


Say there was nothing to place blame on us for them. Do you think Bin Laden would have been a peacful man not wanting fundy Islam to rule all??

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24154 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 1:17:30 PM
But what the hell, lets keep using the 3rd grade response and bomb them into oblivion since that has gone so well.

@NottaSpy: That's been Obama's plan so far! Are you daring to question Obama's Nobel Peace Prize? tsk tsk!

So @NottaSpy: Enlighten us with YOUR vast knowledge of what A-Q is, what they want and how the West can make peace with them. In that order, please & thanks.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5192 Posts
Friday, March 29, 2013 1:01:22 PM
McGovern- I know- I live here. So why did it attack the UK- and other countries- oh- I know- they tossed a coin. Could not possibly have been because of our policies, our support of the US, our monetary policies etc... no- nothing like that at all.

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