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James Holmes Pleads Guilty To Avoid Death Penalty

Hits: 6108 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1773 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 2:33:59 PM
@Gerry1of1: swiftkeys actually accounted for that in his 2nd post 2nd paragraph.

"However, I don't mean that we should put him on death row. When I say we should kill him what I mean is that we should bring him out into the back of the prison yard and simply put a bullet in his head. I know this might sound extreme to some folks, but putting someone on death row actually cost more then it does to imprison someone for the rest of their life."

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:36:09 AM

@ swiftkeys - A number of studies have shown it's cheaper to keep them for life than to execute them. Death row is far more expensive, and with guaranteed appeals in all death sentences, it's more affordable to feed them than kill them.

UDUMASS
Male, 30-39, Canada
 61 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:20:41 AM
Sodomy? I thought that was called gay sex nowadays...

stk5m
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 301 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 10:26:36 AM
@Swiftkeys I say we just chain him to the wall in a coal mine. If he finds ore, he gets a meal. If not, oh well...

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16856 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 7:51:02 AM
One of these days they'll find him dead with a broken broomstick shoved in his ass, Like what happened to Jeffery Dahmer.

Link_Hiei
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 5188 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:37:35 AM
I like that swift. The hard labor one sounds good.

swiftkeys
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 481 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:12:09 AM
Or, if you're really set on making him live out his years in misery and sorrow perhaps we should force him to spend his days doing hard labor. Deny him, health care, psychiatric services, dental care, inmate activities, proper clothing, vocational training and religious programs. Simply put him in a room, give him enough bread and water to survive and force him to do hard labor or starve. He'll either work in order to survive or he'll die of starvation either way we save millions and he is punished.

Just a few thoughts.

swiftkeys
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 481 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:12:02 AM
Some might argue that at least he will live a life of (as fancy so eloquently put it) "..drawn out, richly-deserved sodomy…" and violence, but I doubt that. He's a high profile killer and the chances are he is highly monitored and kept away from general population because we live in a country that will still give him all of his "God given rights".

If it were my choice I would say that we should simply kill him. However, I don't mean that we should put him on death row. When I say we should kill him what I mean is that we should bring him out into the back of the prison yard and simply put a bullet in his head. I know this might sound extreme to some folks, but putting someone on death row actually cost more then it does to imprison someone for the rest of their life. I say we use the money that would have went to his incarceration/death row sentence and pay the salary of several educators.

swiftkeys
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 481 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 6:11:39 AM
f.u.c.k. that. Do you realize how expensive it is to incarcerate someone? Let's put this into perspective:

It cost between $31,000 - $60,000 to incarcerate a person for ONE YEAR! Now this depends on the state and I'm not sure exactly what the overhead cost is in Colorado but even if we assume the lowest possible cost of $31,000 we're still talking about a man who is 25 years old. He has a long life ahead of him if they let him live.

The average life expectancy of American men is 75.35 years old. That means he more than likely will live around another 50 years in his closely monitored segregated prison cell.

That will cost tax payers $1,560,850 to keep him incarcerated for the rest of his life and that number is more than likely a enormous understatement.

irunfast86
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 324 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 5:08:56 AM
if he isn't killed within a year of being in jail i will have lost all faith in "prison justice".

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 847 Posts
Thursday, March 28, 2013 12:32:48 AM
This guy will remain in some form of protective custody(solitary) for the entire time he spends in any prison. However many hours a day he gets out of his cell, he'll be isolated from general population at all times.

Metalcraze
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 101 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:04:11 PM
Is the cure for mental illness sodomy now?

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1773 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 10:04:12 PM
@HolyGod: I think you might be right. I remember hearing that somewhere too, but forgot about it. I stand corrected.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:24:12 PM
Completely different topic but I am so glad that LA cop/cop killer that was killed in that cabin in the woods completely dropped from the news within days of his death. Good riddance looser.

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 6370 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:10:37 PM
Is Colorado one of those states that, given a death penalty decision, would keep him on death row for 20 years while appeal after challenge after appeal slowly works its way thru the court system?

MrPeabody
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1795 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:55:51 PM
He just might live longer on death row than in the general population on a life sentence.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 7:34:39 PM

That's an offer from Defense.
This is such an easy win for Prosecutors that I doubt they'll make the deal.

For the record, I am against the death penalty. Even though this guy truly deserves it.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4955 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:51:03 PM
richanddead

"and booby-trapping his apartment to kill the detectives after the shooting."

It was my understanding that he had booby trapped his apartment and set the stereo to come on blaring music at a certain time. Then someone would call the super, they'd open the door and there would be an explosion. Then all the police in the area would be over there and he'd have more time at the theater before any police could get there.

richanddead
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1773 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:55:53 PM
@darkmagic14n: "tfw in the 'freest' country in the world, you cannot plead innocent"

I'm just wondering, he sent text messages to students telling them to stay away from him "because I am bad news" (meaning he knew it was wrong, ruling out a insanity defense), he was seen and video taped buying the guns, shooting the people, walking out in full tactical gear, and booby-trapping his apartment to kill the detectives after the shooting. Exactly how do you see him as innocent or in any way having that plea work?

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3609 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:42:21 PM
Technically, he hasn't "plead guilty" yet. His lawyers said he's willing to plead guilty to avoid the death penalty, but the prosecution has to accept the plea bargain first.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4955 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:39:53 PM
Javien

"Conclusion: He has not pleaded guilty."


Conclusion: He HAS pleaded guilty. The prosecution just hasn't accepted it yet.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 4955 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:22:56 PM
No matter what he is dead, unless they put him in solitary.

He is too famous and did something too horrific. Some prisoner will kill him.

darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:20:25 PM
tfw in the 'freest' country in the world, you cannot plead innocent

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10224 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:03:21 PM
Let him spend the rest of his days scrambling around jail, trying to avoid long, drawn out, richly-deserved sodomy


You just hit an all new low Fancy.

Javien
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 273 Posts
Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:40:02 PM
Title of the article:

"Suspect James Holmes may plead guilty to avoid death penalty"

First two paragraphs:

ARAPAHOE COUNTY - Defense attorneys representing Aurora theater shooting suspect James Holmes have offered to have him plead guilty and spend the rest of his life in prison in exchange for avoiding the death penalty, 9NEWS has confirmed. This is only an offer from the defense team.

The two-page filing released on Wednesday goes on to say the prosecution has yet to accept the deal because "it may choose to pursue the death penalty." The deal hinges completely on the prosecution's willingness to take the death penalty off the table.

Conclusion: He has not pleaded guilty.

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