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Committee Wants To Ban 150 Types Of Guns [Pic+]

Hits: 8069 | Rating: (2.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: 5Cats
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16745 Posts
Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:15:25 AM
FoolsPrussia: Constitutional rights are not subject to popular opinion, especially this recent media driven hysteria.

Let me put it this way, Would you allow republicans to ban 150 newspapers and TV news shows? Even if you'd still have 1500+ left?

Of course you wouldn't, and there's no difference between the two, both laws would be unconstitutional.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12984 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 9:17:00 PM
I'm not offering my opinion on the assault weapons ban. Just pointing out that it's not like a majority are opposed to it like you're saying.

That's why the Founders put our fundamental rights into the constitution instead of leaving them subject to mob rule.

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1854 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 2:23:01 PM
Guns are for people who can't think or work with explosives. Sure, A bullett may have your name on it, but a stick of dynamite say's :To whom it may concern.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3397 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 12:48:55 PM
Ok, how about this?

"Overall on the issue of guns Texans say they trust the NRA over President Obama by a 47/43 margin.

And despite all of that 49% of Texas voters support an assault weapons ban to just 41% opposed to it. Most Democrats support it, independents favor it by a 53/34 margin, and even among Republicans 23% support it. We've found support for the assault weapons ban everywhere we've polled it, but it's particularly striking to see that voters favor it in a pro-gun, anti-Obama state like Texas."

I'm not offering my opinion on the assault weapons ban. Just pointing out that it's not like a majority are opposed to it like you're saying.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12984 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 12:28:48 PM
@DinVen, you just went full-blown retard there. If we ever have to overthrow our government, the military will be on our side, not theirs.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1512 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:50:43 AM
Pardon us (US? maybe) if we don't our cue from a European who chooses to go by the nick of TuckFarted.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:50:19 AM
@FoolsPrussia

Ya surveys are never skewed to push things. I recall seeing a survey MSN took saying the vast majority of Americans support keeping illegal immigrants in the US. They then posted the question for an online survey which showed something like 71% don't support showing everyone they're full of s**t.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:47:21 AM
Good, most of you gun toting morons shouldn't even be allowed to wield a butter knife without wearing a helmet and taking a 3 year course.


That would be modeling our laws like the UK.

johnkelley
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 59 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:31:19 AM
Yeah "Fools", The Pew survey was conducted January 9-13, with a sample size of 1,502 adults. The margin of error for the total sample is +/- 2.9 percentage points. That definitely represents the majority of America!

TuckFarted
Female, 18-29, Europe
 87 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:29:43 AM
Good, most of you gun toting morons shouldn't even be allowed to wield a butter knife without wearing a helmet and taking a 3 year course.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3333 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:27:10 AM

FP - The ban that Fienstein wants is not the same ban which people support. Her proposed actions are so far out that most democrats don't support it, and has very little chance of passing. 55% may support "a ban of some sort".

Fienstein is definatly out of touch with what the people want. She doesn't care what the people want. Given her way, all weapons would be outlawed and taken.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3333 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:22:18 AM

"Except that 55% of Americans support an assault weapons ban."

This poll was taken shortly after a media sensationalized shooting. Emotions have a big part to play in it.

Most importantly is the fact that they are using the term "assault riffles". The weapons they propose to ban are not assault riffles. By misusing this term, they gain even more fear based support.

BTW it's a pretty slim majority.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3397 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 11:15:21 AM
"Feinstein has been at this for over 20 years and is clearly senile and out of touch with what THE PEOPLE want."

Except that 55% of Americans support an assault weapons ban.

EgalM
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1710 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 10:14:45 AM
This whole debate is getting stupid. Caliber matters a touch more than how many bullets it can hold and the rate of fire. Frankly any gun in the right hands should be able to defeat a more powerful gun in the wrong hands. Learn to aim and one bullet will always be enough is what I'm getting at. So a person with practice will defeat a hoodlum with no practice with ease. Specially if they try shooting all gangster like. Just my thoughts on the matter, this would be why cops carry handguns instead of rifles.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24216 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 9:49:03 AM
@abrxax: Nice find: A 90mm Bazooka! Doesn't come with rockets though, and you have to be an FFL holder (ie: liscenced).

Funny thing is? Feinstein's "new law" won't do ANYTHING about you owning a Bazooka... ironic, yes?

I see you've been lurking for ages @abrxax: Welcome to IAB anyhow!

@jendrian: I thought it was a cat in your avatar. Now that I think about it, you told me it wasn't a while ago... it's cute anyhow! Nice video clip!

@AdamBomb: Don't confuse the issue with "facts"! Democrats HATE facts! This is purely emotion driven, to prevent your avatar from happening everywhere. The NRA wants nukes, we have to prevent that! (/sarc)

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 9:03:42 AM
Because some Americans believe that they can overthrow a tyrannical government with control over fighter jets, bombers, artillery and nukes, all by using assault rifles with extended clips.

Yes, because bending over and taking it will protect you so much more. This is why Americans think Europeans are stupid.

Next point is that "the tyrannical government" references the collective policing agencies - not the military. Historically, in first world nations, policing forces have committed atrocities against their citizens - not the military.

Americans, and all people, should be able to arm themselves to the level of the entities charged with policing them. This is because there are only two ways in which laws are enforceable: first, if they are morally just in the eyes of the population; or second, if the policing entity has overwhelming firepower.

AdamBomb
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 43 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 9:02:52 AM
This will never make it past the House of Representatives. The 2nd amendment clearly states that the PEOPLE have the right to bear arms and the Supreme Court concurs. Any ban on any weapon that the people of the United States can bear is a violation of that right. It doesn't specify color, size, qty, number of bullets, or what they look like and since it doesn't specify a logical person could reasonably assume that nothing should be excluded. It's already almost near impossible to get a fully-automatic machine gun, especially if it was manufactured post 1986 but the way the media and government portray today's "assault rifles" makes it seem like an AR-15 type rifle is what we're using in the military currently to someone who isn't as knowledgeable. You can add all the laser sights, flash lights, bi-pods, flash suppressors, etc you want and it won't make it the same thing. Be truthful about what these "Assault Rifles" really are and then let the people decide.

insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 686 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 9:02:43 AM
I hope all the US manufacturers refuse to manufacture weapons for the government if this passes. Then we will be dependant on foreign manufacturers for our military and the gun grabbing nut jobs that take this argument to extremes about nukes in people's back yards.

abrxax
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 72 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 8:52:09 AM
I FOUND A BAZOOKA!!

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 8:41:41 AM
@DinVen


Because some Americans believe that they can overthrow a tyrannical government with control over fighter jets, bombers, artillery and nukes, all by using assault rifles with extended clips. Idiotic and ignorant.


Ya that's never happened before......

abrxax
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 72 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 8:38:44 AM
You can buy fully automatic, military grade firearms and such. Look up BATFE form 4. Its called class 3 firearms. Takes time and money.
FLAME THROWER!!!

abrxax
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 72 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 8:31:21 AM
I would like to make a comparison. Maryland to Virginia. Md will rarely issue a Concealed Handgun Permit. (CHP) Murders in Md year 2011 was...398 Source(page 19 of PDF) Virginia HAS to give you a CHP (assuming you pass required standards) Murders in VA year 2011...305 source (page 18 of PDF)
Rape: MD=1,196 p26 VA=1,527 p24
Robbery: MD=10,388 p30 VA=5,451 p27
Aggravated Assault: MD=16,866 p34 VA=8,841 p31
B&E MD=35,781 p38 VA=30,438 p38

All and all VA seems to have a lower rate. Va also includes attempted crimes.
VA has more legally owned a carried firearms then MD..maybe that is why its safer.

DinVen
Male, 30-39, Europe
 341 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 8:12:55 AM
Good.

Because some Americans believe that they can overthrow a tyrannical government with control over fighter jets, bombers, artillery and nukes, all by using assault rifles with extended clips. Idiotic and ignorant.

So I take it the anti gun control crowd would entertain the idea of making all kinds of weapons legal? I mean why not include military grade weaponry of every sort in the common market? Then you can finally stand up against the tyranny, except only the extremely wealthy will be able to wield significant weapons. Ordinary people won't stand a chance, they will be fodder for the newly established war lords.

Should make for an interesting implosion of a society.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 7:49:59 AM
@Squrlz4Sale

Hmmm wasn't aware of that.


@abrxax

Skimmed through it read law is quite boring and never clear cause the can manipulate it that way. What struck me is the list of exemptions it sounds like they're goin for alot more than 150 types of guns when you make a list of what's exempted instead of what is banned.

Squrlz4Sale
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 6018 Posts
Friday, March 15, 2013 7:42:22 AM

@Abrxax: I'm not sure what your point is. No one's saying Jefferson or Washington didn't make statements in support of gun ownership by citizens. My point--try not to confuse the issue--is that the Washington quote in McGovern's image is 100% fake.

Get it now? Or are you trying to defend the fabrication of fake quotes by our founding fathers?

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