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US Murder Stats By Weapon 2007-2011 [Pic]

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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:13:38 PM
markust123

Shhhhhhh. Don't bring quotes and facts into the discussion that will ruin crakr's fox news / breitbardt / beck / limbaugh circle-jerk of stupidity narrative that he follows like it is falling out of Jesus's ass.

Then what is he supposed to do all day while he lives off of government socialism while bitching about government and socialism?

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:51:15 PM
turdburglar

"It's ok if people die, just as long as they are killed one at a time. When more than one is killed at the same time in the same place, only then is it a big deal."

Holy s.hit. I'm going to say this for the 100th time even though I feel very repetitive.

1. You will NEVER be able to stop one person from intentionally killing one person for a reason, which accounts for almost all murders. Get rid of guns they will stab them. Get rid of knives they will use a rock. Get rid of rocks and they will choke them. What gun legislation would do is help reduce "innocent bystanders". Nobody walks into an elementary school with a club or their bare feet and murders a room full of kindergarteners. Nobody does a drive by with a knife and accidentally kills a 9 year old walking to school. Get it?

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 9:50:08 PM
2. Intentional murders pose no threat to me or my family. I accept that people will kill. Jealous lovers will kill each other. Gang members will kill each other. Business partners will kill each other. That poses no threat to me or my kids. The only possible threat is large scale random acts like those that can really only be carried out by bombs or guns.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:55:22 PM
Or this jab at Rand Paul from Lindsey Graham, "To my Republican colleagues, I don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that President Bush was going to kill anybody with a drone," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R). "They had a drone program back then. So what is it all of a sudden that this drone program has gotten every Republican so spun up? What are we up to here?"

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 8:52:39 PM
"Don't think he's acting like a dictator? Then why did it take a filibuster from Rand Paul to get an answer from the White House about killing Americans with drones on American soil?"

The same filibuster that your 2008 Presidential candidate John McCain called ridiculous? You must be so proud.

"All I can say is that I don't think that what happened yesterday is helpful to the American people," Sen. John McCain (R), said on the Senate floor.

"Somehow to allege that the United States of America - our government - will drop a drone hellfire missile on Jane Fonda, that that brings the conversation from a serious discussion about U.S. policy to the realm of the ridiculous," Sen. John McCain (R)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25751 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:59:40 PM
@HolyGod: He's extrapolating the data in a sarcastic way:
2009: 2
2010: 4 (x2)
2011: 12 (x3)
2012: 48 (x4)
& Etc, until it reaches a rediculous number

Guns used in crimes in the USA: 600,000
Guns used in self defence? 2,000,000+

Anyone who claims guns are "useless" for self defence is lieing, plain and simple.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12337 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 7:45:28 PM
Looks like a high score table for degenerates.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3678 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 6:26:55 PM

That's right. Everybody's scared of the AR 15, but hardly any of the gun grabbers even know what a mini 14 is. They do the same thing, except one looks scary.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3710 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 5:32:29 PM
@turdburglar - EXACTLY! You can show these two M-14's, which are identical functionally, to someone who knows absolutely nothing about firearms and ask them which one they think should be illegal and I guarantee they'll say the one with synthetic black stock.




turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3678 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:47:12 PM

Funny thing is that rifles are used less than any other type of firearm. The bans and gun control measures proposed are aimed directly at rifles. Cause they're scary!

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3678 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 4:44:10 PM

Well, you let me know when someone uses their feet to kill a room full of random people.


It's ok if people die, just as long as they are killed one at a time. When more than one is killed at the same time in the same place, only then is it a big deal.

Profworm
Male, 30-39, Western US
 309 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:36:16 PM
This list means nothing. Until we include the data on number of murders by Rube Goldberg type device, all context is lost.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:30:29 PM
wag117

"If this trend in killing rates continues, by 2015 deaths by explosives will reach 10,080."

Wait. What?
Explosives:
2007: 1
2008: 11
2009: 2
2010: 4
2011: 12
2012: ?
2013: ?
2014: ?
2015: 10,080

What trend are you seeing that takes deaths by explosives from 12 to 10,080 in 4 years?

uatme
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1024 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:10:32 PM
We must ban Other!

wag117
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 3 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 3:08:54 PM
The problem with charts like this: information is able to be interpreted out of context. Either side of an argument can draw information from this chart to support their case. For example.

If this trend in killing rates continues, by 2015 deaths by explosives will reach 10,080.

Also, if this trend in killing rates continues, by 2015 gun deaths will have dropped to 10,352.

This means by 2016 deaths by explosives will surpass death by guns.

Or.

by the year 2017, homicides by fire will stop completely, and actually, we'll reach negative numbers, meaning that fires set to murder people will actually bring 9 people back to life a year.

Let me state that it's no one's business on my stance about gun control (I like my rifles, I hunt, I have no use for assault rifles or handguns, but I don't demonize people who do like them. I'm sure someone will tell me where I stand eventually.)

Just don't use things like this for evidenc

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:54:28 PM

If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:53:51 PM

Criminals love gun control -- it makes their jobs safer.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5028 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:48:38 PM
SageBlue

"What's next, a ban on feet?"

Well, you let me know when someone uses their feet to kill a room full of random people.

SageBlue
Male, 30-39, Western US
 71 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:20:30 PM
More people are killed by hand to hand combat than rifles, shotguns, and other guns combined. Just goes to show that the "war on guns" is a complete joke. What's next, a ban on feet?

synaw
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 58 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:08:46 PM
blunt objects like what? my best guess is, THEY PROBABLY HAVE ALTERNATIVE USES, UNLIKE GUNS. holy poo.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17170 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 2:06:15 PM
markust: They already have the authority to do background checks in most states. They've stupidly added cosmetic parts of rifles to their assault weapon ban. None of those parts makes a semi-auto rifle function differently.

This is/was Obama's attempt at using a horrible tragedy to take guns away from law abiding people and usurp the 2nd amendment.

Don't think he's acting like a dictator? Then why did it take a filibuster from Rand Paul to get an answer from the White House about killing Americans with drones on American soil?

Obama is a power hungry leftist who doesn't care who suffers, so long as he can push his socialist agenda forward.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13449 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 1:52:55 PM
The Feds are not going to take your semi-automatic riffles or any other guns.


If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in, I would have done it. --dianne feinstein

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 1:23:06 PM
The current bills the Democrats are working on does include taking guns away but that is the bargaining piece. They know that would never pass the House so they will "reluctantly" concede to get the other parts of the bill they really want like background checks for all applicants. Working with congress is like working with children - you don't start the bargaining with what you want to end up with.

jbwhite
Male, 18-29, Canada
 1141 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 1:00:02 PM
do one for 2001... include planes as a weapon

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 12:58:12 PM
The Feds are not going to take your semi-automatic riffles or any other guns. There is no way a bill would pass the current House with that included, and when Democrats controlled the House there were no bills submitted to take you guns away. These are just scare tactics used by the gun lobbyist to make Obama out to be a boogeyman, but more import these are scare tactics used to sell more guns. It is working amazingly well - guns are flying off the shelves.

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