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US Murder Stats By Weapon 2007-2011 [Pic]

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DingDingDong
Male, 30-39, Western US
 1504 Posts
Monday, March 25, 2013 10:59:25 AM
Drowning deaths in 2011 are 150% of 2010! Ban all swimming pools!

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5000 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 10:55:16 PM
turdburglar

"If 5 people die at the same time by the same person or at different times by different people, there is NO DIFFERENCE!"

The difference to me is not so much the number, it is whether the person is killing someone that caused it (not saying deserved it) or if they are just randomly killing random people. That is a HUGE difference to me.

The person with a motive would still kill if they couldn't get a hold of a gun. The random crazy might not be able to, certainly not that successfully.

It isn't that one death is ok but 12 at once isn't. It is that you can kill one person at a time with basically ANYTHING, so getting rid of guns wouldn't prevent those. You can't kill 12 at once with very much except for a gun.


turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3606 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 10:47:32 PM
HG -
"9,000 gun deaths out of 300,000,000 people is a miniscule"

We were talking about mass killings, which is a FAR smaller ratio. Of course if one of those were my family I would care a great deal. Would you care? Really? You might feel sympathetic for a moment, then move on with your life. Most likely you wouldn't even know, and if you did you wouldn't care. I don't blame you.

Death comes with life. If 5 people die at the same time by the same person or at different times by different people, there is NO DIFFERENCE! You admit and accept that people are murdered one at a time and that is not preventable. Still you support legislation that is brought about, and fueled by emotion from a few mass killings. You support laws restricting weapons that are responsible for a tiny fraction of firearm deaths.

comp_wizard
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 195 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 10:12:14 PM
In conclusion, forget assault rifles, ban handguns. I think the best way to prevent gun crime is to require that all civilian weapons be physically too large to ever be carried concealed. After all, no criminal is likely to walk around with a gun in plain sight. It'd be too suspicious.

Runemang
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2529 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 9:19:11 PM
The origin of the word "infringe", especially 200+ years ago, means "break", not "limit". I wish people would get this straight. I'm not in support of a hugely-limiting law on firearms either, but if you're allowed a single-shot muzzle-loaded pocket pistol and nothing else, your right to bear arms has not been infringed. Do I think we should be allowed more than that? Yes. Does the Constitution give me the right to own more than that? No. So enough with the constitution class from people that never took one.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5000 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 12:39:30 PM
turdburglar

"You are almost certainly NOT in danger of being killed in a mass shooting"

Totally agree with you. Would you also not agree that you would have said the same exact thing to anyone that was killed in the theater massacre the day before it happened?

9,000 gun deaths out of 300,000,000 people is a miniscule, insignificant number, unless somebody you care about is one of the 9,000. Then I guarantee it would not seem so insignificant.

"Your chances of being struck by lightning are 0 because you don't go outside? You are being stupid"

You seem to be missing my point. I can control my odds of being struck by lightning by adjusting my behavior.

Statistically speaking you have better odds of getting bit by a shark than you do of being hit with a meteorite. However, if you never go in the ocean than you change those odds. Get it?

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3606 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 10:13:36 AM

All you have said still shows that, in your mind, it's ok if people die. As long as they are killed one at a time. When more than one is killed at the same time in the same place, only then is it a big deal.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3606 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 10:11:43 AM

HG - The mall, a theater, your sons school. Irrational fear mongering a bit? You are almost certainly NOT in danger of being killed in a mass shooting. If you are so scared, protect your self...carry a pistol. Fork out some cash and get a security guard or police posted at the school. Support a school levy or bond or something in your community if you are too cheap to pay for your own irrational fear.

Your chances of being struck by lightning are 0 because you don't go outside? You are being stupid. It's a commonly used term for something that is insanely unlikely to happen. In this case though, your chances of being hit by lightning are about the same, if not greater, than being a victim of a mass shooting.

You want some better ways of avoiding a mass shooting? Focus on mental health options in this country instead of more laws and more govt. control which won't work. Better yet, drink a beer and forget the whole idea that your life is on the line. You'll almost

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5000 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 9:08:16 AM
turdburgalar

"start taking responsibility for your own (and familys) safety."

How would you like me to make my son safer at school? The mall? The movie theater?

"you would rather have my rights taken."

Nope. I have a gun. I would fight hard against guns being taken away. I believe that is a right given to us in the founding of our country.

"which is less likely than being struck by lightning!"

No it isn't. My chance of getting struck by lightning is basically zero. I don't go out when it is thunder-storming.

"better ways to try and prevent those extremely unlikely events."

Glad to hear it. What are they?

"Ways that don't screw me!"

I believe in hand guns for protection and hunting rifles / shotguns for hunting. I don't happen to believe you need 100 round magazines and unregistered weapons. How does anything being proposed right now screw you?

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5708 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 8:46:01 AM
nice try at diverting the topic from Obama's willingness to ignore the constitution.

Whatever. Until you're advocating the return of that right to people who already have it stripped from them you're just a hypocrite.

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3606 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 8:30:05 AM

HG - As you said, those types of murders make up a very small percentage of homicides. You did nothing to argue against the point I made. As a matter of fact, you supported it!

That poses no threat to me or my kids. The only possible threat is large scale random acts


Maybe you should start taking responsibility for your own (and familys) safety. Instead, you would rather have my rights taken. You would rather the government make you feel safe from a threat which is less likely than being struck by lightning! Or best of all...You could accept the fact that the real world can be scary. And that there are better ways to try and prevent those extremely unlikely events. Ways that don't screw me!

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5000 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 7:53:51 AM
5Cats

"Seriously "libtards"? Get your act together! You're so hypocritical it's painful..."

I love how often you guys argue against things we never say. I hate the filibuster no matter who is doing it. I always have. It is as an antiquated and abused practice and should be eliminated.

We have lots of problems in this country, problems that need to be solved, and our senate was shut down by a headline hunting self promoter so that he could ask a question nobody was dodging. But hey, he got his right wing hand job for it, so I guess it worked.


HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5000 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 7:47:16 AM
tommy2x4

"Spoons make me fat."

So dumb it barely deserves a response, but OK.

YOUR spoon makes YOU fat. That is YOUR personal choice affecting only YOU. If guns were only used in suicide I would have nothing to say.

However, people use their guns to kill OTHER people. Which would be YOUR spoon making ME fat.

Not to mention the whole "guns are just a tool" argument could be made for anything. Nuclear bombs aren't bad, the people that blow them up are bad. So by that logic I should be able to have one right?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13291 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 6:54:59 AM
@Musuko42

So when will the UK be enacting spoon control. I'm waiting for the day you all have to buy saftey bubbles to live in.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13291 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 6:53:46 AM
Gambling has been shown to increase crime rates which includes murder. Will you be banning that nation wide too. Tell me what would be considered gambling then scratch tickets, lottery & Keno????

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13291 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 6:40:19 AM
@whodat6484
Should use the SOCOM for that comparision...

AvatarJohn
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 1001 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 6:20:48 AM
Musuko, the problem with that logic is that the US Constitution doesn't say, "the right of the people to keep and bear Spoons, shall not be infringed." It says Arms, not Spoons. And for good reason. Time and time again, despotic, tyrannical regimes have disarmed their citizenry in order to cement their ability to oppress and maintain power. The founders understood this and wrote the Consitution to guard the people against the possibility of tyranny and oppression. The amendment is the second one listed in the Bill of Rights because, after free speech, religion, the press, assembly and petition, the right to keep and bear Arms is the next most important right we have to maintain freedom and liberty.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2833 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 4:01:13 AM
@tommy2X4

"Spoons make me fat."

If you're fat, the spoon isn't at fault, your lack of self-control is at fault. But the spoon enables you to give in to your lack of self-control.

So the answer is that you're not responsible enough to handle a spoon, so a good way to stop you porking is to take your spoon away. It doesn't resolve your underlying issue, and it's not the best fix, but it is still a fix; it stops you being able to make yourself fat.

Taking guns away doesn't stop people's murderous urges...but it does hinder them in acting on them. In my eyes, that's a good thing.

tommy2X4
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3346 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 3:20:51 AM
Spoons make me fat.

tommy2X4
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3346 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 3:19:01 AM
15,000 murders a year? Insignificant percentage to the 300,000,000 people that will have to comply with freedom robbing new legislation.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 12:25:35 AM
Oh Christ I'm in a Troll sandwich. I'm getting the hell out of here. By the way 5Cats, the quotes I posted are from Republicans not Democrats. They are from two of the most outspoken congressmen against Obama. They think the filibuster was "ridiculous" - John McCain's word.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25004 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 12:18:38 AM
Funny:
When Democrats "filibuster" it's:
The Highest Form Of Patriotism! The Constitution at it's finest!
But when Republicans "filibuster" it's Scandelous! Unpatriotic! IllegaL! Immoral!

Seriously "libtards"? Get your act together! You're so hypocritical it's painful...

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Friday, March 08, 2013 12:12:07 AM
"markust: I was talking about Obama and his gun grabbing agenda, nice try at diverting the topic from Obama's willingness to ignore the constitution."

Wow, you are the spin master. You are responding to my response of where you, not me, switched things to Rand Paul's filibuster. Here is what you said, "Don't think he's acting like a dictator? Then why did it take a filibuster from Rand Paul to get an answer from the White House about killing Americans with drones on American soil?"

I was just pointing out through their own quotes, that when two of the most outspoken Republicans against Obama attack a filibuster against Obama you know it was a batsh*t crazy idea. I could smell the stink of this one the moment I laid eyes on it.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16964 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:19:30 PM
markust: I was talking about Obama and his gun grabbing agenda, nice try at diverting the topic from Obama's willingness to ignore the constitution.

HG: I see that you're taking the low ground again with personal attacks. You revert to that vapidness like a dog returns to it's vomit.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5000 Posts
Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:20:40 PM
Markust

That is such a great Graham quote. I feel like you could turn that into a Mad Libs for almost everything that the right wingers and tea-baggers are SOOO upset about. (Government bailouts, drones, massive debt, increasing welfare spending, etc, etc, etc)

To my Republican colleagues, I don't remember any of you coming down here suggesting that President Bush was ________. They _________ back then. So what is it all of a sudden that this _________ has gotten every Republican so spun up?

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