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11-Year-Old Boy In Coma After Bully Attack.

Hits: 6703 | Rating: (2.2) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: MrPeabody
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synaw
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 58 Posts
Monday, March 11, 2013 9:21:25 PM
i live in this area and if this is the same story i'm thinking of, he has since died.

New_Guy
Male, 30-39, Europe
 401 Posts
Monday, March 11, 2013 6:46:15 AM
What no Darwin jokes?

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Monday, March 11, 2013 1:15:34 AM
@crakrjak and there was intent to punch the kid. If it's declared connected it is manslaughter then. You don't need intent to cause the actual out come of the crime, just intent to have committed the crime i.e The likely result has to be sooo far removed from likely and foreseeable circumstances to get away with the I never intended that to happen. If you rob a bank and scare a weak hearted man who has a heart attack and dies, guess what you're responsible in law although you intended to rob a bank. Kid's intended battery and assault and you have to accept all the consequences of your criminal venture.

And in your oh so litigious society civil law suit against the school or kids parents would likely succeed is after all the information is in they are connected.

So yes a two day suspension is not adequate... If the results come back connected.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16153 Posts
Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:58:18 PM
Bakcagain: That may apply to tort law, but not criminal law. Under criminal law the defendant must have had intent and that intent must be beyond a reasonable doubt.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 4420 Posts
Sunday, March 10, 2013 4:47:36 AM
Gerry is right- it could have been a fight with unfortunate consequences- boys fight, poo happens. It could have been continuous bullying of the weak by the strong. Either way the boys should have been out of the school door that hour- if rules say no violence- then that is what happens- it deters. Once the full story is know to the investigators then I hope that justice will be served- if it was a fight which went accidentally wrong- well, that is one thing- death by bullying- that is another. Knee jerk justice is never fair and I suspect there is a lot here that we will never know.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:12:08 AM
@CrakrJak Ever heard of the thin egg skulls rule? You take your victim as you find them.

If it's found that the two things are connected the boy's are responsible and should be punished and more so then a suspension. Kid's that age can understand they shouldn't be punching other kids. I could very easily punch you I reckon, is that just guy's will be guy's. Even if you get knocked out and roll off into some moving traffic and die.
Not saying lock the kid up for life but they deserve more then a 2 day suspension.

2929AZDR
Female, 30-39, Western US
 70 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 7:54:03 PM
Ohhh wait a minute!!! you think those boys will stop bullying now? no no no.. they got a 2 day suspension, a slap on the wrist. I say make them suspended as long as their "victim" is out of school. Pray for that poor boy in a coma. My son was thrown in a ditch at school with a broken arm and a concusion and his bully didn't miss a day of school. went to court and he was found quilty and NOTHING more was done! The system to protect our childern is broken. I say, "set the example" with these bullies and give them a good old criminal record and have them tracked now before they continue on this road of destruction!!! Make their parents financially responsible for the children THEY raised to be so heartless and cruel. The boy that hurt my son was finally arrested in his senior yr of H.S. after he assaulted another student with a 10" hunting knife. Nice huh?

emmettyville
Female, 40-49, Australia
 4125 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 4:59:55 PM
I only got one thing to say about this. HOMESCHOOLING.

Dejablues
Male, 18-29, S. America
 34 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 3:07:10 PM
This is insane. If an adult kills another person, even by mistake, negligence, when it's not ruled an accident, they're going to spend some time in prison, right? Kids who end up in the same situation should have similar consequences. They should be tried as adults, for assault, battery and 2nd? degree murder if they can prove the death was a consequence of the beatup

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16153 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 2:08:11 PM
bassman: It's not like this kid intended to kill the other. From the news description it was two punches. It's a horrible tragedy but not murder.

And like I said, kids get into fights, all a zero tolerance policy does is transfer the problem to another school. Better for counselors to work with these kids and help them deal with their anger management issues.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:49:19 PM

Not enough info.
The loser of a fight often claims it's "Bullying" but it might just have been a plain old fight like boys have. And a punch to the nose can have desastrous consequences if the bone goes up in the brain. Or maybe when he fell down his head hitting the ground did it.

Is it criminal or just really bad luck? Sometimes aweful things happen and there isn't anyone to blame.

Link_Hiei
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 5188 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:38:00 PM
They day I have a child and he gets ganged up on by 2 other kids Ill be spending life in prison im sure. But those 2 wont be bullying anymore.

sweetrebelnc
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 794 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 12:02:21 PM
When I was in school there was a zero violence policy. Any involvement in a fight got you an expulsion. This is obviously beyond this since the child died. the parents of that poor child should press charges.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:44:00 AM
He didn't start having seizures till some time after the fight, and he wasn't placed in a coma till 2 weeks after the fight. It's also unclear if he was having seizures before the fight or if they were a result of the fight.

That being said, it sounds like two kids were ganging up on him when he just wanted to walk away. I have no patience with thugs like this regardless of their age. They need to do some hard time for this.

that1joshguy
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 213 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:20:51 AM
this kind of stuff pisses me off

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 4420 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:16:25 AM
I think the point Crakr was making is that boys DO fight... ( sorry Crakr- I know me agreeing with you must be cringey) and I said earlier that this does sound like an unusual case- the hospital discharged him. However- zero tolerance means just that- zero. This may have been a fight- not bullying- but still- no violence on school grounds. Ever.

jeremy562
Male, 30-39, Western US
 53 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:10:15 AM
a few kids pummeling another kid till he is in a coma is hardly boys fight? and now dead apparently... i would have gave them my own death sentence

Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1759 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:10:09 AM
Ok..we have the guns,we have the manpower...Let's kill us some Bullies.

bassman56
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 178 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 11:07:04 AM
CrakrJak, so it's normal for kids to get beaten so badly they end up in a coma? Do you have any kids? I wonder. This is way beyond "boys will be boys". Perhaps you used to be a bully...

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1662 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:58:56 AM
I'm with Madduck on this - in Europe the kid would get expelled and the parents instructed to find another school. At minimum. If the parents pressed charges and the kid was found guilty, he could end up in juvenile detention for a bit. In the UK that means Aylesbury Prison, and that's not somewhere you wanna be.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16153 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:28:47 AM
Sorry, but it's nature that boys will get into fights. Many times it happens over stupid things. I'm sure the kid that punched him is sorry, very sorry. How would you like to walk around school with that stigma hanging over you the rest of your days? Some serious counseling will be needed, yes. But expelling the kid is just nonsense.

Btw, the stupid pastry gun expulsion was even more idiotic.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 4420 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:21:06 AM
Pardon- a child should be expelled on the spot for violence- immediately. Straight to headmasters office, out the door to never be seen again. But I would put money on the fact that in most places theft attracts a higher penalty.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 10:19:18 AM

This is starting the day on a bummer note.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 9:57:56 AM
IAB is so slow to post things the kid is dead. A ten minute look through other sites will give you an idea of what is trending MODs. Come on.

malikymoo
Female, 18-29, Europe
 2037 Posts
Saturday, March 09, 2013 9:56:47 AM
oh well this is depressing

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