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Gun Homicide Rate By Country [Pic]

Hits: 13316 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: Gerry1of1
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22078 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:23:20 PM
"According to: National Vital Statistics Reports Volume 60, Number 3 December 29, 2011 Deaths: Final Data for 2009 (Table 18) in 2009, a total of 177,154 deaths were classified as injury related Four major mechanisms of injury in 2009— poisoning, motor-vehicle traffic, firearm, and fall— accounted for 75.1 percent of all injury deaths."

That second chart relates to deaths other than disease, eh? Guns (including suicide) comes 3rd, slightly ahead of accidental falls...

Source: A Blog

And yes, it is a fact that when one takes "gangs" out of the equation, USA's gun murder rate is almost as low as Europe's. That's a "race" issue, so it's easier to take guns away from whites than it is to deal with coloured gangs... right liberals?

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:19:40 PM
@5Cats
Pie charts with no sources are irrelevant. I can make the exact same pie charts saying the opposite.

@darkmagic14n
And do you know how they get illegal guns? Because someone buys them legally, erase the serial number and then sell them.

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:16:23 PM
"The US is not close to the most violent civilised nation; this only shows one, numerically minor aspect of violence. Here in the UK we have a far higher rate of violent crime."

Yes, you do, but violent crime is not the same as homicides. If you punch someone in the face it's considered a violent crime, if you punch 5 people in the face it's considered 5 violent crimes.
The rate of violent crime doesn't take into account the nature of the crime, so it's rather useless when comparing the violence between countries. On the other hand, the murder rate perfectly illustrates this, and the USA's murder rate is 4 times higher than the UK's.

darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1633 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:13:36 PM
that gangs have such easy access to guns?


liberals, I swear

these gangs aren't all running around with CCL, the guns they have are illegal. guess what happens when you ban guns?

protip: banning guns takes them away from responsible people, the criminals will still gladly break the law

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3679 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:12:30 PM
FoolsPrussia-"don't think that part of the problem is that gangs have such easy access to guns?"

And you seriously think that outlawing gun will make them harder for criminals to get?

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 22078 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:12:12 PM
Where's @HolyGod to complain how the "little countries" have skewed the statistics? You know, tiny places like Brasil and South Africa! Mexico, the Phillipines...



And furthermore:



Those "gun deaths" INCLUDE suicide, fyi...

Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
 429 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:11:40 PM
"It's highly misleading because it only looks at gun murders, not total murders. As though the tool to commit a murder really changes the outcome."


Check this table then


UK has 1.2, USA has 4.8, Canada has 1.6
This is intentional homicide, not just any homicide, so accidents don't count.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1072 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:03:29 PM
Gerry

The US is not close to the most violent civilised nation; this only shows one, numerically minor aspect of violence. Here in the UK we have a far higher rate of violent crime.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1072 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 4:01:21 PM
FoolsPrussia

"What we do claim is exactly what is shown on this chart; the USA has an abnormally high murder rate among first world nations. "

The chart shows nothing of the sort. It does not show total murder rate.

When you have to support your contention with lies, you are acknowledging that you have lost the argument.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3165 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:58:53 PM
@Gerry: I don't think anyone has ever asserted that the USA is the most violent country. What we do claim is exactly what is shown on this chart; the USA has an abnormally high murder rate among first world nations.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:52:07 PM

FoolsPrussia
"I'm sort of surprised that Gerry posted this, considering how it doesn't seem to reinforce the pro-gun argument much."
I'm interested in anything internestind. And it does dispell the myth that the USA is the most violent, murderous country on the planet. Just the most violent 'modern' nation.

Here's a titbit for you, 64,999,987 firearms killed no one yesterday. Statistically, very VERY few are involved in deaths.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3165 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:48:10 PM
"The fact is that if you take away gang related murders in the United States, our murder rate is below 2 per 100k. This is evident in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Minnesota's murder rates being about 1/100k, less than Europe even with the presence of guns. We have a gang problem."

I agree that gang violence is a major contributor to the murder rate, but you don't think that part of the problem is that gangs have such easy access to guns? Guns are ubiquitous in inner cities, and it's a major problem.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3641 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:38:44 PM
MeGrendel your country lead the first world countries in this list.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2471 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:35:57 PM
It's highly misleading because it only looks at gun murders, not total murders. As though the tool to commit a murder really changes the outcome.

I know for a fact that the UK's murder rate is about 1.2 per 100k. That means it goes up tenfold from this statistic. The US's would not go up tenfold. This is a common trick to make the gap look even more drastic.


The fact is that if you take away gang related murders in the United States, our murder rate is below 2 per 100k. This is evident in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Minnesota's murder rates being about 1/100k, less than Europe even with the presence of guns. We have a gang problem.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2428 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:18:30 PM
I'm not quite sure what point this graphic is supposed to be making, but a quick check of UNODC stats shows it is not overly accurate.

Examples:

Columbia shows nothing near 49.52; the highest was 40.1 (2004) and the "most recent year" was 27.1 per 100,000 (in 2010).

Honduras was 26.7 in 2005 and jumped every year hitting 68.4 in 2010, but was never 30.57 in any given year.

Dominican Republic isn't even close. The last 3 recorded years (2008-2010) were 18.6, 16.9, and 16.3 (a far cry from the "4.00" in the graphic).

Incidentally, the U.S. figure is pretty close (though dated), 3.9 in 2006, 3.2 in 2010.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3679 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:16:08 PM
What? USA is not #1? I mean, we're the only country with the NRA, and liberals keep telling us that the NRA is the cause of all the murders.

CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 1792 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:10:45 PM
For Italy and the countries listed after, I'd be interested to know what the knife violence rate are, compared to knife and gun violence in all the other countries- except Switzerland of course, where drunk chicks wearing bikini's made of 1,000 SF notes can stumble the streets and be safe. Or is that sweeping generalization about the Swiss racist?

lemonstand
Female, 18-29, Canada
 170 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:09:48 PM
is it bad that i read "gay homicide rate" first?

skytz1337
Male, 18-29, Europe
 690 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:58:53 PM
haha you can see when Europe starts

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3165 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:55:36 PM
I'm sort of surprised that Gerry posted this, considering how it doesn't seem to reinforce the pro-gun argument much.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3614 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:50:47 PM
Yay! We're on par with Uruguay, the Dominican, and Albania! Woo-hoo!

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33697 Posts
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 1:46:05 PM
Link: Gun Homicide Rate By Country [Pic] [Rate Link] - Per country, per capita.

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