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Revisions Needed In NY Gun Laws

Hits: 4722 | Rating: (1.9) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: whodat6484
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Nerd_Rage
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 427 Posts
Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:07:18 PM
lawl, so the now even the cops are gonna be at a disadvantage to criminals.. real smart nyc.. Real smart.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 15132 Posts
Sunday, March 03, 2013 12:27:00 AM
A LOT of firearms dealers and distributors are now refusing to sell any guns to law enforcement agencies that they cannot sell to citizens in that jurisdiction.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1598 Posts
Saturday, March 02, 2013 11:11:35 AM


[quote">Large-capacity magazines are defined as magazines having the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds for any handgun and more than 5 rounds for any rifle or shotgun.....the bill would make such possession unlawful only if it occurs (1) in a public place.... and (2) within 20 feet of a firearm capable of accepting such magazine. The bill would exempt certain shooting ranges from the definition of “public place,” so that the possession and use of large-capacity magazines at such ranges would not be prohibited[/quote">

Link below to give credit and rest of story
These laws are crazy. Here's a chunk of a proposal for Delware.


So I can have a large mag just not within 20 feet of the gun. That's the VP's

CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2101 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 7:24:13 PM
@Skypirate-
I was thinking of Sean Bell, and several folks out in L.A.- whose names I can't recall- but yeah, Diallo works as an illustration.
One cop yells 'gun!' and every cop on the scene succumbs to mob mentality- there just has to be a better way to train these people- certainly there could be better laws in place to hold them accountable for their actions.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26662 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 6:03:00 PM
Isn't this the law they -literally- passed at Midnight?

(sarc)
Why should "laws" apply to cops? They are above the law. Rape, murder, graft, arson, kidnapping, NO laws for cops!
Why should "laws" apply to RETIRED cops? They're not "normal people" who should be forced to "obey laws" after all!
(/sarc)

Gun grabbers: THIS is what we think of you.

skullgrin
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 917 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 4:08:00 PM
why do cops need more than 7 bullets?

skypirate
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2106 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 3:57:26 PM
@CaptKangaroo

Diallo?

CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2101 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 2:12:56 PM
I see no problems for the cops there, provided they can refrain from shooting unarmed, fleeing suspects in the back 47 times... Oh wait... They're gonna have problems, aren't they?

skypirate
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2106 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 1:56:47 PM
lol. hearts over heads eh?

BBJellyFish
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 538 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 12:53:56 PM
Yea, cause criminals give a s/hit about the law. Stupid f/ucking politicians. All this poo is doing is taking power and rights away from LAW ABIDING citizens.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 12:20:20 PM
7 bullets? yeah because tell me about how those planning to use guns to break the law care about abiding by the law for 7 bullets. hell i say its fair to limit cops to 7 bullet mags. do they really need more to shoot people up?

and wtf could be the possible reason for exempting retired cops? they dont need high capacity mags anymore than a regular cizilian

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3746 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 11:24:13 AM
"...why not exempt people who used to be in the military?"

Agreed! When I was going through the concealed carry process I asked about that and of course, no one had an answer. Being a Veteran and the fact that I had cross trained to be a radio operator in the USMC I had a Secret (Level II) security clearance so my application did go through much faster than normal.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 11:02:56 AM

Yet another gun control law that has no chance of controlling gun violence.
YEAH! Politicians doing what they do best - nothing.
And yet, they even manage to mess up doing that.

But if you are going to exempt people who used to be cops, why not exempt people who used to be in the military? They've been trained on the safe use of weapons. Just a thought.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3746 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 10:49:25 AM
Oh yeah, and in the video they say the ban is on magazines that hold over 7 rounds, but that applies to magazines purchased after the law takes effect. People who own 10 round magazine, like your truly, are allowed to keep them but if you load more than 7 rounds it's illegal. That's the dumbest f*cking thing I've ever heard, hahaha!

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3746 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 10:40:31 AM
"Why does it need to be changed?"

It needs to be changed because in NY State a standard issue 9mm Glock that's issued to the majority of police officers comes with a 15 round magazine. The new NY State laws ban ALL high capacity magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds. The problem being that every cop brings their department issued gun home with them from work, they don't leave in their lockers or anything like that. So as it's currently written, the second they're off the clock they'd technically be breaking the law by having a semi-automatic handgun with a high capacity magazine.

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3143 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 10:25:31 AM
why should Retired police get an exemption?

MadMan66
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 66 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 10:11:26 AM
"Can you stop posting a flawed argument? Why have laws, lawbreakers will just break them?"

That's not flawed. They are creating a new law, but know it will not have any effect on it's targeted population. Most other laws, when followed, protect the law abiding from the non-law abiding. This does the opposite. It is protecting the non-law abiding from the law abiding, and the law makers know it.

greenbasterd
Male, 18-29, Canada
 2363 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 10:02:17 AM
police are not military.. why do they need military scary killing machines?? and by that i mean any gun you paint black

insane_ai
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 686 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 9:59:41 AM
The people need to be armed as well as the infantry to answer their call to defend the nation at any time. everyon shoul dhave high capacity magazines.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10187 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 9:53:14 AM
Because now, even the police are no match for the gang members with high capacity magazines.

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2044 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 9:51:45 AM
"Why does it need to be changed? Are police not citizens? If people don't have "high" capacity magazines, why would law enforcement have a need for them? Oh, is it because criminals would still have "high" capacity magazines because they don't follow laws?"

Can you stop posting a flawed argument? Why have laws, lawbreakers will just break them?

MadMan66
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 66 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 9:48:48 AM
Why does it need to be changed? Are police not citizens? If people don't have "high" capacity magazines, why would law enforcement have a need for them? Oh, is it because criminals would still have "high" capacity magazines because they don't follow laws?

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2044 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 9:34:40 AM
good. Why do the police needs high capacity if the citizens don't get them?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 9:33:51 AM
Why revise it if the people can't have them why should the police?

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3746 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 9:24:19 AM
Link: Revisions Needed In NY Gun Laws [Rate Link] - As it is currently written, police officers are not exempt from the ban on high capacity magazines... D'oh!!!


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