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What Most Schools Don't Teach

Hits: 6953 | Rating: (3.1) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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Langer
Male, 18-29, Europe
 382 Posts
Friday, March 01, 2013 7:39:42 AM
Sorry. I have to reply:
int f_cks_given;
while ( !$end_of_video ) {
$end_of_video = play_more_video();
$f_cks_given++;
}



int f_cks_given;
while ( !$end_of_video ) {
$end_of_video = play_more_video();
$f_cks_given=0;
}

Iterative Rhetoric 101...f*_cks_given should remain constant at zero :p

chance13
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 221 Posts
Thursday, February 28, 2013 4:15:59 AM
Coding is definitely everywhere, and I love how they get all these that made it bag to hype it...however, the reality is sitting behind a monitor staring at thousands of lines of code for 10 hours a day...boring as hell with a huge burn out rate.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33895 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:34:35 PM

I stopped after learning ANSI COBOL.
Yeah, I'm that old.

Cajun247
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 10210 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:11:35 PM
Yeah haven't found lots of opportunity with my Aerospace degree. So I've switched to software, and getting a LOT more interviews now.

I do recommend taking a theory of computation course. Really useful when designing algorithms. Especially search algorithms where brute force methods can take O(n!) time as opposed to O(n) time from more efficient algorithms.

lauriloo
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 1805 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:51:58 PM
I learned some Basic on my brother's pre-Windows pc when I was in jr high in the late '70s. Then I took a quarter of Fortran as a requirement for my degree. That was on a mainframe and a teletype machine, i.e. no monitor. Because of that experience, learning basic javascripting and php was much easier when I was building websites. Heck of a lot more useful than all the calculus I was forced to take in school. The hard part of programming is the patience it takes to find the tiny mistake you made somewhere that makes it not run. At least it's not like when my brother learned to be a programmer using millions of punch cards. He now writes programs that are the brains of HVAC systems. Not glamorous like games but pays the bills.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33895 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:30:50 PM


Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2855 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:22:49 PM
Go 101001011 yourself.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:13:31 PM
im an engineer and didnt learn coding until college, but i have to agree it is very important

DaShiVa
Male, 30-39, Australia
 42 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:05:16 PM
Sorry. I have to reply:
int f_cks_given;
while ( !$end_of_video ) {
$end_of_video = play_more_video();
$f_cks_given++;
}

RecycleElf
Male, 18-29, Europe
 3632 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:21:27 PM
Good video. learning to program is something costs little and is a great mind trim for anyone. why not start young and have an easier time with jobs in the future?

keith2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2541 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:30:29 PM
while(seconds video is playing)
int fxcks_given;
fxcks_given++;

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33895 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 2:53:52 PM

Teaches you how to think?
Then why are all the programmers I know skatterbrained?
Oh, they're creative, and get them into their coding and they are focused and drive. Do great work. But when it comes to thinking about a budget or organizing a vacation they're bloody daft. Go out to the club with them and it's like the developed Aspergers overnight.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16725 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:03:07 PM
I'll agree with what Jobs said in the beginning, that learning to program a computer teaches you how to how think (organize your thoughts).

I'd unknowingly been doing it on my own before computers where ever introduced into my school system.

Interestingly enough it was a 3-day in-school suspension that exposed me to an Apple][+ computer that the advanced kids where using in my vice-principals office. It changed my life and didn't get into trouble after that. Not intentionally anyways.

PopCap
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 472 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:33:31 PM
Learning to program a computer is one of the least expensive things a kid can do. Computers are insanely cheap and there is a LOT of free resources. The process of writing a program and working with contacts to solve sophisticated problems is an excellent exercise because doing so involves the fundamentals of problem solving and project management. Should every kid do this? Maybe not, but it would help a lot of kids become very powerful analysts.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33895 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:58:34 AM

Those people are successful because they have business sense.
The people who just write code work for them.


Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33895 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:57:17 AM

" and some of my friends have jobs "
HA - It is to laugh

klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
 647 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:40:50 AM
Comp Sci is just like learning a second language.

The only difficult thing about coding is the debugging, which can involve looking through thousands of code to find one out of place letter

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:31:29 AM
Not everyone will be able to do it well though. It's kind of something some one has a nack for or not. It's kind of like learning a language a bit and a puzzle hard to describe really. Most can learn the basics but you gotta have a nack to make good tight code.

panth753
Female, 18-29, Midwest US
 8820 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:23:16 AM
A good idea, but where do get the money and the resources to do this? Who's going to teach the kids this if they don't have up to date computers? How about who is going to to teach the teachers how to do this so the kids can do it too? This kind of thing doesn't appear out of thin air. Something has to happen to get it done.

Now I support it, but you can't expect this to happen right away.

DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3884 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:23:00 AM
Oh shut up. I had programming classes, and all I use that knowledge for now is making obscure plays on words.

This isn't some secret form of knowledge tham makes you into a superhero. It's simple logic. The reason these people are so successful is that we are in the COMPUTER AGE and they've managed to get to the forefront of the industry.

It's just not practical for the layperson to know. Anything that they could write (unless they're extremely skilled) can already be written by someone specialized in the field.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5684 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 11:18:38 AM
This is very poignant in modern society. Those with the power over computers hold the true power.

kitteh9lives
Female, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 1356 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 10:55:18 AM
Link: What Most Schools Don't Teach [Rate Link] - A 'super power' that isn't taught in 90% of schools.


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