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God's God - Laughing At Atheists

Hits: 5626 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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MrAtari
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1351 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 5:01:53 AM
well done, the last minute I already knew...

Hopefulbliss
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 25 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:41:46 AM
If god was omniscient and omnipotent, then that means that he created a man in such a way that he was doomed to go to hell, and had the power to change the man or stop the event, and still chose not to! A million variables could have been changed, but were not on purpose. This is insane and ridiculous to believe unless you believe that god enjoys punishing his creations, after they did the very things they were built and predestined to do. The devil brings up another problem with omnipotence. Either god wants the devil to exist, or he would just destroy him. The devil is not god, therefore the devil was created by god, therefore god, if omnipotent, could destroy the devil at any time. This means either A) god wants the devil around to try to destroy good in all forms, which is insane. Or B) He is unable to stop or destroy the devil, in which case he is not omnipotent. The devil is either working for god, or god is not all powerful folks!

Hopefulbliss
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 25 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:35:07 AM
all of your actions are predetermined, fabricated, and meaningless. That you are a puppet of flesh merely moving in the way that a god has predetermined you to move. Or B) He is not omniscient.

The problems with omnipotence are both logical and philosophical. The logic is simple, since you are dealing with an absolute. Can god create a rock so heavy that he himself can't lift it. That sort of thing. The philosophical delves into the actions described in the bible. The idea of a devil, or a hell, makes absolutely no sense when omniscience and omnipotence is put into place. For example, who is really putting you into heaven or hell? God is! Your actions are irrelevant. Step 1; god creates Bob. Being omniscient, god knows that his current design of Bob, (his body, mind, placement on Earth etc.) will kill another person. Step 2; god makes Bob an atheist, therefore he does not believe or repent. Step 3; god sends Bob to hell for murder.

Hopefulbliss
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 25 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 4:25:20 AM
5Cats: "Omnicience" You know all there is to know. If you don't "know it"? It DOESN'T EXIST!
DUH!
"Omnipotent" Able to do "all that can" be done. If you can't do it? It doesn't exist!
FFS! These are EASY to refute!

There are huge logical problems with omniscience and omnipotence in a god of mankind. Let's use Christianity. Having both omniscience and omnipotence means knowing and being capable of literally anything. I ask, in that case, why did he create us, or anything for that matter? He should, by definition, know how everything would play out. Some may reply, free will. In the case of free will he would either know what we were going to do before we did it, or not. In which case he either knows what we will do our entire lives, therefore no true free will but a pre-scripted life, or does not, in which case he is not omnipotent. So believing in a Christian god is admitting that either A) You have no true free will, and

MrPeabody
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1795 Posts
Wednesday, February 27, 2013 12:01:14 AM
So it's OK for humans to gain consciousness within a finite time, but not OK for that energy that has literally infinite time to do so before doing anything else.


It is also interesting to see people who are supposedly coming to a scientific conclusion about God ignore the fact that if he does exist, nothing in the physical realm applies to Him because He would have created it. We don't even understand the subtleties of the physical realm and have no way of seeing or understanding anything that may exist outside it. If Atheists truly want to be scientific then they should treat God like a scientific theory that has yet to be proved or disproved.

Both religious and non-religious people should just stop with all the hate, and follow some advice from the Bible:
And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24198 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:58:00 PM
5Cats no welcome needed, been here since 2004. Just never had anything to say. I guess I just got so bored I had to speak up.

@12chars: I know how that is! I lurked for several months bfore signing up and spouting off!
I am the IAB "UNofficial" welcoming commitee! If it occures to me? I welcome folks!
LOLZ!
But I try to "welcome" all sorts of folks, disregardless of my agreeing with them or not.

@markust: Another "God" showed up?
I am SO GLAD I didn't watch it all... really, very glad...

EgalM
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1710 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:53:58 PM
I got a feeling I don't need to watch this to get the gist of it.

I will say that I find it funny how it's OK for one side to believe something cause science, but it's not OK for the other side cause religion.

Take the Big Bang, sure it happened, but what caused it. One hand they say nothing, on the other they say a energy that has always existed. So it's OK for humans to gain consciousness within a finite time, but not OK for that energy that has literally infinite time to do so before doing anything else. It all boils down to them wanting to live a certain way and they'll be damned if anything is going tell them how to go about it.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:08:06 PM
The first "God" was the worst, most poorly written character I have ever seen. This was painful to watch.

12chars
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 237 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:54:58 PM
5Cats no welcome needed, been here since 2004. Just never had anything to say. I guess I just got so bored I had to speak up.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24198 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:03:37 PM
The Holy FAQ! xD

@h4krChik: See? THAT comment is funnier than this entire video!
Welcome to IAB!

Maybe the human intilect is too limited to understand...

@Gerry1: Like in "Mothman Prophecies" eh? I love that film!

@12chars: Ooo! I hope MY spelling error drives you nutz!

NO WELCOME FOR YOU!

(I'm kidding! Welcome to IAB!)

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24198 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:59:10 PM
Got really BORING when the "strawmen" started popping up... about 2 minutes in...

"Omnicience" You know all there is to know. If you don't "know it"? It DOESN'T EXIST!
DUH!
"Omnipotent" Able to do "all that can" be done. If you can't do it? It doesn't exist!
FFS! These are EASY to refute!

@DrProfessor: I heartily agree! These "so called arguements" are both OLD and LAME and should be put out of their misery...

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5684 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:49:09 PM
I enjoyed parts of it. Way too long though.

HI-haole
Male, 18-29, Western US
 545 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:40:05 PM
I like Gerry... That comment was pretty good..

12chars
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 237 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:43:13 PM
Maybe the human intellect is too limited to spell intellect correctly. Maybe you need to see the reason to use a dictionary or spell check.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33895 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:21:12 PM

Stupid faith bashing.

Maybe the human intilect is too limited to understand where a being like God came into being. Like a slug can't figure out where your boot came from.

I don't believe any of that poo, but I don't see any reason for this video.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:18:28 PM
i liked it

DrProfessor
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 3884 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:16:55 PM
I skipped around. Couldn't handle getting through the whole thing. Poorly done, by far.

Why do people have to constantly re-tread the basest aspects of this argument? It's been done. It's out there. Stop acting like your crappy animation is going to solve the entire conflict between atheism and religion.

So stilted and just... augh.

drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
 5184 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:00:31 PM
Heavy man

h4krChik
Female, 40-49, Midwest US
 86 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:54:26 PM
The Holy FAQ! xD HAHAH! Awesome stuff.

kitteh9lives
Female, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 1357 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:25:55 PM
Link: God's God - Laughing At Atheists [Rate Link] - Who was intelligently designed and who designed them? Worth the watch. The last minute brings it together. NSFW Language

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