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Gun Control In Australia

Hits: 9490 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: turdburglar
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Palfas
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 410 Posts
Thursday, February 28, 2013 9:37:01 AM
bears repeating

http://tinyurl.com/cta3gqr

This video is a lying puff piece by the gun lobby

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:03:29 AM
So what was it in Australia that tipped the scales (or from the other perspective was used to tip the scales)? Was it the Snowtown murders? The only reason I know about that is the movie is on Netflix on demand. It is creeeeepy.

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3122 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:53:12 AM
two words
ned kelly

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:37:32 AM
"This is wrongheadedness. {I like that word!}"

I've received wrongheadedness. Terrible terrible experience.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:35:49 AM
"Is that your final answer?"

I really don't have much feelings about the gun issue. My brother has a couple guns. I shoot with him sometime. That is about it. All whatever you are doing did was raise a red troll flag.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:27:37 AM
I hope that wasn't in response to me McGovern. If it is, that is way out there.


Is that your final answer?

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:26:14 AM

Banning guns won't get rid of them and everyone knows it.
This is wrongheadedness. {I like that word!}
Here's more examples of wishing the world worked one way when it does not.

If we don't teach kids about condoms they won't have sex.
If we teach creationism in school then evolution is false.
If we outlaw pot it will keep teenagers from smoking it.
If I just ignore Ben Affleck as 'DareDevil' then it never happened.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14830 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:14:32 AM
There has never been a perceived "constitutional right" to bear arms in Australia.

Sorry, my bad. I forgot you guys are subjects, not citizens.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:02:39 AM
I hope that wasn't in response to me McGovern. If it is, that is way out there.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:59:45 AM
So now tell what's killed more people nut jobs with guns or big governments with guns?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:55:52 AM

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:42:08 AM
"Thats pretty funny now tell me what they're pushing for gun control like this with."

I hope you don't mind me answering this in a different way than you wanted. The gay marriage movement wouldn't have moved as incredibly fast if anti-gay marriage bigots hadn't been so vocal and so opposed to it. The NRA and the gun lobbyists pushing fear of the government and well, just plain fear are going to allow the gun law nuts to get their way. When illogical fear is pushed it has a way of backfiring. Yes fear is also being used by the gun law nuts but it is a common fear created by our movies and news - innocent people being shot in a crowd. The kind of fear being pushed on the other side that creates militias and patriot groups does not play well with the masses, it is seen as fringe and dangerous, and will backfire.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 7:11:04 AM
But then again fear is a powerful manipulation tool.


ROFL!!! Thats pretty funny now tell me what they're pushing for gun control like this with.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13542 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 6:58:35 AM
A program making law abiding citizens hand over the possesions they worked for gee nothing fishy there what could go wrong.....

epiphany101
Female, 30-39, Australia
 514 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:25:26 AM
OldOllie: "So at best, the Australians gave up their right for nothing."

There has never been a perceived "constitutional right" to bear arms in Australia.

Fatleg
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 12:03:56 AM
like any major change in a society it takes alot of time. mostly because older generations are resistant to change, and have come accustomed to a certain way of life, and their rights. Look at the movement for equality between the sexes. racial equality. it takes time.

thankfully time does not stop, and change will happen. the oldest generations are thinned out by the newer generations. just look at the rights for homosexuals and legalization of marijuana, you're getting there slowly, and you will with guns as well:)

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14830 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 8:14:15 PM
That would have been funny if I didn't know you were serious. The misinformation that comes from you is staggering. You meed to clear out all the lies Glenn Beck planted in your head. It is making you look like a moron. No wonder you are so partisan.

This is what passes for a logical argument from the left these days.

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14830 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 8:11:31 PM
While I do admit that the buy back program did little to nothing to decrease crime, it also did little to nothing to increase crime.

So at best, the Australians gave up their right for nothing.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 7:04:03 PM
*150 euro, stupid IAB not recognizing currency symbols.

also as a lesson on making licenses "expensive" as an argument:
i've seen 3 accidents at ranges and heard of one shooting. the accidents being stupid crap like shooting the wall because they forgot they had a round chambered or overloading a muzzle loading rifle so the barrel burst. the shooting being a man who killed the range master after a personal dispute and set off to shoot himself.
all of the involved idiots where of what you would call an upper class background.

and do i support a "stricter" law? no. do i wish the test wasn't something a dullard could pass by waving some folding money or being the teacher's friend (i´ve seen a teacher literally fill out the test for some silly woman who somehow didn't know some of the answers.) ? yes. education is key. not bans or control.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 6:58:34 PM
guns are quite a bit more common in germany than you would expect. i own 4 myself and shooting is a major sport that might not be as openly discussed here as football/soccer, but it is very much present.
also getting the license here is rather easy, it involves money, about 150€ roughly, and a few weekend courses followed by a multiple choice test that, i do not joke, could be passed by someone who has played an FPS and paid 3 seconds of attention to safe storage laws (required class of cabinet and that guns dating before 1870 design wise can be openly displayed within a home).

next time you wish to cite my country for your arguments, do some research first.

CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2994 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 4:19:15 PM
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Franklin

enough said

Mikeoxsbiggg
Male, 30-39, Canada
 1247 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 3:02:45 PM
How many Americans here cried a little tear when the guns were destroyed?

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 3:02:18 PM
Here's what I know, and no one, at all, period, can dispute this. Australia, Japan, Germany and UK all have significantly lower gun deaths per year per capita than we do. If we don't give a poo about that, fine. If we think that some safety measures, some oversight, some reasonable controls might help (like, say, we do with cars, cigarettes, etc.), then, hey, good for us for not being idiots. You can ignore facts all you want, and even lie about them, but it doesn't make them any different than what they are.

scruffydog
Male, 40-49, Europe
 10 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 2:12:13 PM
Historically, Australia has had relatively low levels of violent crime. Overall levels of homicide and suicide have been in decline for several decades, while the proportion of these crimes that involved firearms has consistently declined since the early 1980s. Between 1991 and 2001, the number of firearm-related deaths in Australia declined 47%.[25] According to a 2011 report from the Australian government, "...the number of victims of homicide has been in decline since 1996". There were 354 victims in 1996, but only 260 victims in 2010, a decrease of 27 percent. Also, "The proportion of homicide victims killed by offenders using firearms in 2009–10 represented a decrease of 18 percentage points from the peak of 31 percent in 1995–96 (the year in which the Port Arthur massacre occurred with the death of 35 people, which subsequently led to the introduction of stringent firearms legislation)."

Simbosan
Male, 40-49, Asia
 160 Posts
Monday, February 25, 2013 11:57:42 AM
If you can't spot a bought and paid for by the NRA bullpoo crock of lies then you need your head examining.

Check out phys.org on NRA abusing stats

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