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Madness? THIS IS TUNISIA! [Pic]

Hits: 24069 | Rating: (3.4) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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liabach
Male, 40-49, Western US
 928 Posts
Tuesday, February 26, 2013 11:10:43 PM
it wouldn't match her purse

alpensepp
Male, 70 & Over, Europe
 1358 Posts
Friday, February 22, 2013 5:00:46 AM
they will kill her. thats what islam does best.

Jowsh
Male, 18-29, Europe
 1234 Posts
Friday, February 22, 2013 3:01:24 AM
Humans are retarded.

I wonder if poo like this will ever stop happening in the name of some fictitious power in the sky? Probably not, people fully believe they are right without a shred of evidence which is the scariest thing


madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5591 Posts
Friday, February 22, 2013 3:00:52 AM
No Angillion - or at least I am trying not to at any rate. I agree there is a middle position- but not one we often see on the 'net. You are correct- some religious positions lend themselves to encouraging bad behaviour, but not all. Hence why I still stand by my position of suggesting we should judge on behaviour, simply because it is ( as far as I can see) the only yardstick that stops this pointless polarised argument. To say that ALL religion is harmful is demonstrably untrue, to say that ALL religion is good- ditto. That can be brought into every faith too- all Buddhism is not good- all Islam is not bad... But to say that if we did away with religion would stop a lot of conflict is very likely untrue too- sexism, racism, all those lovely categories we use we fill the void very quickly. Those perverted mullahs who think the mere sight of a womens eyes invites rape- they are perverts who would quickly find another justification and another rallying cry.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16950 Posts
Friday, February 22, 2013 2:13:11 AM
Angilion: What is "depravity and degradation"?

Any person that has to sell their body to earn the money to live is degraded.

Any person that pays to see or touch another's body is depraved.

Just a few examples, of many, that are increasingly becoming 'the norm' in our society.

patticakes
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 459 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:23:19 PM
Boy, she's not too keen on keeping her head.

Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 12145 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:52:43 PM
I heard a cleric say it's Halal to rape her.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11339 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:55:17 PM
Apparently you'd prefer this country wallow in depravity and degradation.


I'm not patchgrabber, but I want to respond to that statement.

What is "depravity and degradation"? I consider most religions that way, and certainly dominant ones. So what you'd see as a perfect society, I'd see as depraved and degrading. I consider both capitalism and communism (as applied to the real world, i.e. not really communism) to be depraved and degrading.

I make those judgements based on the effects of those things on society in general.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11339 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:48:32 PM
Angillion- those running countries according to religion are doing it for power and personal gain- I don't give a fig what they choose to worship in the privacy of their own head.


Neither do I. But it's not kept in the privacy of their own head. It's forced on everyone within reach of their power, it was the route they took to power and it maintains their power.

I think you're making a false dichotomy. You're taking the position that religion has no effect and you're arguing as if the only opposing position is that *all* theists (or all theists of specific religions) are violent nutters. Those are not the only two possible positions.

CodeJockey
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 5055 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 1:58:57 PM
All those comments about her getting killed etc.. This is Tunisia, not Iran, stop being so ignorant.

You mean Egypt. There were recently people put to death for coming out as Christian.


patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5707 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:44:44 PM
@crakr: No, I'm just a realist; I'd rather you try and change something in a way that actually has a chance of being done.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16950 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:24:01 PM
patchgrabber: The goal is possible, but it would take a concerted effort by a significant number of people. Apparently you'd prefer this country wallow in depravity and degradation.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5707 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:49:03 AM
Take away the reward these media companies get from publishing that sort of tripe and they won't make it anymore.

Let me know how that goes. Also say 'hi' to Mr. Roarke and Tattoo for me.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5591 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:43:04 AM
I hate extremists, I hate fundamentalists, and I hate generalisations. I think they are terribly unfair, and also a sign of sloppy thinking. Which is why the idea that all religious people are idiots, or all Muslims nut cases- it is quite simply not true, and it also means that quite a few Muslims feel that the west is their enemy- and that just makes the situation worse... same goes for Christians- most are sensible, fair minded people who do accept evolution and good science.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3784 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:20:04 AM
I have met so many wonderful Muslims and Hindus throughout my time in the tech industry. They are nothing like the horrible stereotype the media has made them out to be. You could take any group and focus on their bad people but why?

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16950 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:49:25 AM
patchgrabber: I don't believe in censorship. The better solution to this corruption would be a drop in demand. Take away the reward these media companies get from publishing that sort of tripe and they won't make it anymore.

Or you could do what liberals love to do when they want to 'ban' something without passing a banishment law, tax it to death.

I'm not for higher taxes, rather see them branded with a stigma and shamed out of business, but either would be effective.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5707 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:39:14 AM
correct the immorality of mainstream media

Hmm, that sounds a lot like socialism to me. Who are you to censor them and push your morals onto their business model? Or is it that you only believe in capitalism when it doesn't conflict with your values?

Tekinette
Male, 30-39, Europe
 267 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 5:13:23 AM
All those comments about her getting killed etc.. This is Tunisia, not Iran, stop being so ignorant.

Wendypants
Female, 30-39, Canada
 2090 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 4:55:07 AM
Why do I have this sneaky horrible feeling that she was killed for what she did?

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5591 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:00:16 AM
Angillion- those running countries according to religion are doing it for power and personal gain- I don't give a fig what they choose to worship in the privacy of their own head. I care very much how they behave, and I have watched people do amazing things in the name of religion, and kill in the name of religion- it is them- not the religion. I am actually no fan of religion simply because it distracts people thinking, it is point less and worthless. But to make an enemy of an entire group because they believe in god is also silly- make enemies due to behaviour.
Crakr- those bad examples are very high profile public things, I am short of space here so precised. You must KNOW about Perry- and some of the stuff Santorum came out with was scary!!!

collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3740 Posts
Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:48:45 PM
"Ahlu Sunna Waljama'a"

tl;dr.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:30:47 PM

Quackor
Male, 18-29, S. America
 2864 Posts
Wednesday, February 20, 2013 5:00:12 PM
i hope the car was her own, that bitch

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11339 Posts
Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:53:00 PM
McGovern:

There are moderate Muslims speaking and acting against the extremists, up to and including outright war against them. For example, take a look at Ahlu Sunna Waljama'a in Somalia.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11339 Posts
Wednesday, February 20, 2013 4:39:07 PM
A small minority use religion of any variety to excuse behaving like a twat- so can we not get hung up on which God they choose to excuse their behaviour and concentrate on how they behave. Demonising Muslims, demonising Christians is diverting attention from the actual problem- which is behaving badly, oppressing other people and trying to explain that behaviour with religion- or race, or some other rubbish.


But other "small minorities" aren't running countries, conducting civil wars in order to run countries and running international terrorist organisations to destroy civilisation and run the world.

So no, it's not true that the religion doesn't matter. Islam is a particularly power-orientated religion and it therefore encourages twattery. Some of the twats would indeed still be twats without it...but they'd be powerless twats and therefore far less dangerous. It does matter.

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