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Pregnant Woman Hog-Tied By CHP

Hits: 8526 | Rating: (3.0) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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ak4775
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 369 Posts
Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:47:01 PM
She got just what she deserved. She tried to evade them and refused to pull over or to comply when she finally did. Only thing they did wrong was not tazing her dumb ass.

ladyObored
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 408 Posts
Wednesday, February 20, 2013 1:55:07 PM
So what if she was high or not, there are better ways to arrest or detain someone. People are not animals and shouldn't be tied down as such.

SavageChef
Female, 50-59, Western US
 1557 Posts
Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:58:10 AM
Imagine being the wife of one of these disgraces to the badge. I couldn't stand to be married to such a piece of crap that would slam a passive, pregnant women down on the concrete.

JoexBro
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 314 Posts
Monday, February 18, 2013 5:11:03 PM
@MacGuffin, I do agree with a lot of the points you make, but you act as if every American is like the way you describe. Some of us do not want to see these injustices and evil, but too many more are controlled by mass media. If we speak up our society has already molded an image for us. Crazy, conspiracy theorists, stupid, ugly or any other way the powered elite choose to paint us. There are those of us who would like to do something, but at the risk of being killed or publicly mocked, it is a very hard thing to do.

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 835 Posts
Monday, February 18, 2013 6:50:05 AM
And is Scotland still training the oh so wonderful police forces in Maldives? You know, the ones that use torture and sexual assault as a daily practice?

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Sunday, February 17, 2013 7:29:08 AM
America, it seems to me, is just what Germany or South Africa would have become if they'd got away with their genocide and racism. You have committed genocide twice in your past and never been adequately punished for it (once with the Native Americans, and once with African slaves, ten *million* of whom died in the slave trade). What have you ended up with? Not a comic book version of evil, certainly. Just the mundane, common kind. Where you risk the abuse of those ostensibly paid with your tax money to protect you, for 'crimes' like talking on a cell phone and allowing yourself to get a little confused when pregnant and full of hormones. Then you get the truly dumb and wilfully blind Americans like McGovern, whose sole inconsequential observation to every hypocrisy pointed out to him is "at least we don't have a Royal family". FFS, you couldn't invent a dumber country with citizens more deserving of the abuse they invite and toletate if you tried.

Magentab0b
Female, 30-39, Western US
 1453 Posts
Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:10:34 PM
She acted like she was fehking high. So they acted like she was fehking high.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1580 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 10:53:20 PM
Cops need to make split second judgements all the time and this one, it pains me to say, unfortunately made the wrong one. Granted, all signs leading to that point would have led anyone to believe a potentially dangerous situation was about to occur, there was enough "information" available at the end to realize it was safe when he walked up with his partneri to simply hand cuff her. Then they could have ticketed her up for 5-6 traffic violations. And wow that woman was clueless!

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 11744 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 10:48:02 PM
I wouldn't have given her a penny. Dumb crunt got exactly what she deserved. I have to admit, though, hog-tying her feet was a bit much, but worth $250K.

mytbozak
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 363 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 10:05:50 PM
Man the cops gotta learn not all people are deranged criminals ready to shoot them. This is why nobody feels safe when cops are around.

carmium
Female, 50-59, Canada
 5671 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 9:24:15 PM
djwajda:
You'e summed it up more completely than I could have! I'd only add that she was not visibly pregnant, so that should be a non-issue. Well said.

mcssls
Male, 40-49, Western US
 594 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 4:44:02 PM
she didn't follow a legal command, got what she asked for, boo hoo

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3349 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 3:35:09 PM
@piperfawn - They do, that's the other reason dashcams are now in cop cars, if they step out of line then it's on tape and they're punished. It's not like the cops on video who are guilty of police brutality get off without being disciplined. In most cases, depending on the severity, they're either demoted, fired, or some even spend time in prison. If you follow up on the stories and look into the investigations you can find that out.

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 835 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 3:33:43 PM
Ok, I have sat here and watched thru this video slowly more than once.

First and foremost there was never any excessive force used at anytime. She tried to avoid being pulled over then was unresponsive to verbal commands. She was taken to the ground with a common takedown technique, nothing more.

The so called 'kick at the 4:17 to 4:20 mark' was not a kick at all. This was also a common technique known as the knee strike to the common peroneal nerve. She was also clearly not completely cuffed at that point and was not cooperating to allow her to be. This technique is used for just that reason and does not do any permanent damage whatsoever. It has been known to make a person feel like their leg is broken but the pain does not last long.

I know all these things because I trained with all these techniques for years as law enforcement in both the Military and Civilian worlds. The only thing that got her 250k and less charges was her being pregnant.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3638 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:59:54 PM
whodat6484 So...would not be better if the bad officers were fired or if they had to pay the consequences of their bad behaviours instead to be protected in any case by the police force and in many case justified also by the civilians?
Citizens are not perfect and don't allways have reason but if you see a cop being bad wouldn't be better to denounce the situation and sayng to be against it instead to allways find an excuse for them?

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3349 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:53:02 PM
Oh yeah, I know it's pretty sad that it's come to that. There are going to be a$$hole cops no matter where you go, some people let the authority & power trip get to their heads. While there are many videos of police overreacting, there are also plenty of videos of police pulling someone over for running a stop sign and then getting shot or attacked before they even realize what's happening. That's why they don't f*ck around. Here's one example from Texas.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3638 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:35:52 PM
whodat6484 "If she would have done that then none of this would have happened."
What you say is plausible but sadly YouTube is full of tons of video of police officers that beat the crap out despite the stopped driver accomply to all the request.
This is not the first case in wich we see some strange behaviour from your police, seems more like a common practice down there to abuse the power.

TheOrigin
Male, 18-29, Europe
 473 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:34:27 PM
Well that certainly explains a fair share, however sad it may be. Thank you for shedding some light into this for me.

Although to be honest it is a bit disturbing knowing that incidents are common enough to warrant such precautions and behavior.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3349 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:27:36 PM
"Are high risk stops or felony stops so common and dangerous that they warrant actions as displayed? Because that might be the crucial difference."

That's exactly why they handle them this way. There have been countless routine traffic stops that have turned ugly because they were pulling someone over who had an arrest warrant out or they were otherwise doing something illegal/dangerous. Usually it goes down when they're pulled over for speeding or something, and the cop doesn't know yet that the guy's on the run, or has a trunk full of cocaine or whatever, but the driver assumes they're being pulled over for that. That's why they tell her to turn the car off, toss the keys out the window, open the door from the outside keeping their hands in sight and turn around so they're facing the other way. If she would have done that then none of this would have happened.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3638 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:17:39 PM
TheOrigin usualy they say that citizens in the USA must have all the weapons they want for protection from evilz cops and government but when they see cops doing horrendus things they are all in awe with that....good luck on understand something about what they really want.

TheOrigin
Male, 18-29, Europe
 473 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:15:47 PM
@whodat, continued:

My ex had a father with a short temper. Typical road rage case, he always had to be first and could not tolerate anyone before him. He ended up having a little race with a white van, breaking several rules including speed limit, double lane crossing and many more, example case of reckless and hazardous driving (her dad was and is a nut case and I do mean it).

Turns out the white van that always caught up with him and tried to block him out was an undercover swat team, they pulled him over, jumped out in full gear (my ex scared out of her mind by then) and...

And, instead of beating him silly they immediately revoked his license plus a damn heavy fine that went into three digits. No beating, no arrest.

Also McGovern: it might surprise you, but most of Europe speaks English. At least as a second language, but still. Ah the sweet ignorance.

TheOrigin
Male, 18-29, Europe
 473 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:08:36 PM
@whodat: Well yes, I can see your point. I absolutely agree that she was wrong, her driving was hazardous and reckless and she did deserve a fitting punishment.

But it's just that I can't come to terms with this being an adequate response. In these parts, she would get a very heavy ticket, maybe even suspended/revoked license. But not an arrest and most certainly not a one on one with the pavement and the officers boot.

This may be a difference in background/culture or whatever you wish to call it, but from an outsiders point of view..simply put the way things are done are not understandable.

Are high risk stops or felony stops so common and dangerous that they warrant actions as displayed? Because that might be the crucial difference.

ForSquirel
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1401 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:07:39 PM
@handmadebeat - "ForSquirel/ irunfast86 you both are dumb**s! Not much else to say....oh....maybe...F**k the police!"

i'm sure you lost a lot of time coming up with that reply. The sheer intelligence held within those quotes is mind boggling.

please explain why i am a 'dumb**s'. The woman ran from the police, careless and wreckless on the highway, came out of her vehicle like she had a nasty intention. I thought police chases were routine nightly news in California. If anything this woman should have known how not to act in a situation like this.

'oh....maybe...F**k the police!'

this is perhaps the greatest line ever created. Sorry you had a bad time with an officer when you got busted for doing something obviously illegal. I don't even need to assume here.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 12726 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 2:00:57 PM
Lol cause macgovernor think that England represent/is all Europe


The UK represents the vast majority of European users here. That whole everyone speaking English thing.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3349 Posts
Friday, February 15, 2013 1:57:19 PM
@TheOrigin - I don't think anyone defended the fact that she was kicked or took a knee to the stomach. I'm saying that going into this, what the cops saw was the woman failed to pull over when she had plenty of chances to do so, then she sped up and weaved he way back into traffic. That looked like a pretty dangerous maneuver as she could have caused an accident. When she finally did pull over, given what they just saw, they treated it as a "felony stop" or "high-risk stop" which means her actions led them to believe she was running from something.

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