 Plangkye
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 213 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:38:45 AM
Re: the "Why not adoption" route - Because the article specifically says the girl wants not only to carry the baby to term but to raise it herself (whether that means on her own dime or not is irrelevant). |
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 r66tramp
Male, 40-49, Canada
676 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2013 5:38:00 AM
If you are a teen hiring lawyers to fight mom and dad, then you know mom and dad did a bad job raising you. That is a train wreck of a situation. Sad. |
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 fancythat
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
1405 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:39:06 AM
Sorry, Dad. Trying to open her legs this time won't change the fact she's already opened them at least once before... |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2013 4:32:07 AM
"Why is it adoption never occurs to people?"
I concur with Gerry on this. The newborn could be adopted. Forcing any woman to have an abortion, no matter her age, should be illegal.
If this girl wanted an abortion, against her parents wishes, all the 'pro-abortion' people would be chanting for her 'rights'. I find it disgusting that many of the 'pro-abortion' people are now being hypocrites and supporting her parents 'rights'.
I'm for the fetus' rights regardless, it's a human being and should have the right to life. |
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 sbeelz
Male, 30-39, Western US
2860 Posts
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Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:15:27 AM
I second what Madduck said. |
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 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2864 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:58:57 PM
Whoah, i am all for legal, fee and accessible abortion- but not against this girls wishes. She needs support, counselling and a clear understanding of the life she is taking on, not bullying. Having a child at that age will not be easy, but if her parents were so against it then they should have made sure she had a coil, or a jab to protect her as well as condoms. This is awful- poor kid. No contraception is 100% but as parents they should have made sure she was as close to this as possible, the conversation should have been had- what if, then what... long before she actually got pregnant!!!! |
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 tommy2X4
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
2824 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:28:14 PM
Baby daddy marry her and work and support her and baby. That is what should happen, that's what used to happen. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25640 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:41:07 PM
Why is it adoption never occurs to people?
BrAngelina has to go all the way to africa to get a kid fer crisakes. They could save a fortune on travel if there were more available locally. |
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 ledzeppeloyd
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
2184 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:08:05 PM
so its better to be a 16 year old mother? |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25640 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:05:33 PM
I mean she didn't want to do this one thing, but she wasn't sueing to be emancipated. |
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 skypirate
Male, 18-29, Western US
1786 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:45:50 PM
@gerry but I don't recall the kid asking for the right to assume the responsabilities of an adult
lol |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25640 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:10:49 PM
5cats - you can emotionally disown a kid, but that does not relieve you of the financial burden. Only if the courts emancipate her. If they take a kid from you they can still charge you for the kids keep. No, chucking her in the street isn't a solution. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25640 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:09:21 PM
skypirate, I agree emancipation would be a solutioin, but I don't recall the kid asking for the right to assume the responsabilities of an adult. I think the parents are skum, but I believe they are within their rights to make the decisions until the kid is an adult or emancipated. |
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Plangkye
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
213 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:56:21 PM
5Cats has it right. The article says the girl claims she and the father want to raise the child, and be parents - she should be able to choose that, and likewise, her parents should be allowed to show her the door so they aren't saddled with the consequences of someone else's (i.e. their daughter's) screwups. It's too bad that the likelihood in the end is that nobody wins, but it's better than taking away her right to choose what she does with her body and her life. |
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 HalfPintRoo
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
2043 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:49:47 PM
No, I don't think they should force her. |
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 thelonious
Male, 40-49, Southern US
3200 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 8:25:46 PM
This child will be a criminal one day being so surrounded by love and such as. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16960 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:36:49 PM
It's pretty simple, you cannot FORCE someone to have an abortion, period. The same way you cannot force someone to carry a child to term.
You CAN take their toys away and make them get a job, that's fine!
Just disown the girl & let the baby-daddy have her.
Harsh (cruel even) but fair. |
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 Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1068 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:28:21 PM
By the way, the slippery slope argument is, itself, a slippery slope. |
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 turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1816 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:04:22 PM
They should flip a coin...Unless it comes out black.
(Just kidding, take a joke people) |
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skypirate
Male, 18-29, Western US
1786 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:02:32 PM
@gerry i agree and you make some good points. but (as the parent) why not just agree to sign emancipation papers? you're off the hook legally and can still have the personal/financial relationship you want. the real question is what to do when the 16 year old wants to keep the kid and the parents want to abort it. |
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 paco664
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
123 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 7:00:44 PM
her parents should have had an abortion 16 or so years ago.....
it would have saved them a lot of problems later.... |
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turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1816 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:50:24 PM
Slippery slope indeed. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25640 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:50:10 PM
Well, I'm torn.
I'm against abortion, but I believe parents, who suffer the legal responsability for a 16 year old, should also have the legal authority to make the adult decisions... like medical decisions. So, I think abortion is wrong, but the reality is that it IS legal and it's up to the parents.
As for taking away the car and cell phone... I doubt that 16 year old paid for them so they can take away anything they want, without notice. I bet the little snot expects her parents to support her AND her child. You want to be an adult? Then go out and BE an adult, support yourself. |
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skypirate
Male, 18-29, Western US
1786 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:49:44 PM
@markust123
if i were an non-nice individual id say something along the lines of 'someone tried that last december, but it seems to upset parents'. |
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Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
1068 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:48:29 PM
Did that guy just said that the fetus has a right to be protected? People need to make a make up their mind.
Anyways, I don't care for micromanaging local politics. |
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