 collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 3521 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:14:48 PM
"The vast majority of hunters do not hunt on a 'game reserve' "
i never said they did.
"It's not for you, nor anyone, to decide my need."
maybe so. but i stand by what i said.
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 Izroth
Female, 30-39, Midwest US
85 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:05:23 PM
@LordJim...The manifesto seems to suggest that he had more than a few reasons behind his actions. I am not sure who the daughter was that was killed but, if the girl was directly related to one of the people that is mentioned in the manifesto, maybe that is why he killed her, to make those who were directly connected, to the corruption or possibly someone that did nothing, suffer in one of the worse possible ways.
I don't justify his actions at all. But it doesn't seem he snapped because he had a bad day at work and just started shooting at anyone, this seems to have been thought out. |
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 MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2406 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:50:18 PM
collegebound-"if people are going to be armed they only need a hand gun."
It's not for you, nor anyone, to decide my need.
collegebound-"rent a rifle or something on a game reserve."
The vast majority of hunters do not hunt on a 'game reserve'. But, please, continue to demonstrate your ignorance.
Oh, at btw:
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 markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:48:34 PM
I got so much crap for saying this yesterday, "Why do I get the sick feeling that the media and their helicopters were sent away so the police could guarantee this man will die."
No I was not rooting for him like it was spun that I was, and no I am not a conspiracy theorist. I'm just a guy that trusts his gut instincts. |
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 turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1947 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:41:31 PM
@collegebound
@reignblazer - agreed. |
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 DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
955 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:30:08 PM
I've got to concur with McG
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3521 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:10:57 PM
i love you too McGovern :) i love you too. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10540 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:04:48 PM
@collegebound
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 Reignblazer
Male, 18-29, Europe
1581 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:04:26 PM
@Turdburglar:
In a perfect world. In the real world, the boys in blue are often crooks with a badge and the long arm of the law backing them should they decide to simply kill you, as seems to be the case here. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
26248 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:54:40 AM
tatripp "everyone who owns one of those little cabins up in big bear live somewhere else"
Not everyone. There are locals that live there year round, and others have retired there permanently. Even if she does have another house, the police just torched a prime property. And because they were after a suspect they don't have to pay for the damage.
Dorner wanted to kill someone, he got what he wanted.
Cops wanted to kill Dorner, they got what they wanted.
Only loser is the owner of that pile of ashes. |
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 Sistarose
Female, 30-39, Australia
371 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:48:48 AM
They had him cornered, they could have waited him out. Clearly they had other options, they chose a BBQ. Let the conspiracy theories flow and the spin go crazy. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3521 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:37:45 AM
"And this is why Americans need to be armed- our government, our federal internal security agencies and our various civil policing agencies are taking an increasingly suppressive and violent tack."
if people are going to be armed they only need a hand gun. if you want to go hunting then go rent a rifle or something on a game reserve. if you want even bigger and badder guns join some type of service. guns are meant for protection. nothing more. nothing less. guns weren't even used for hunting way back when so be a man, tough it out, and use a spear or something. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5329 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:33:10 AM
And this is why Americans need to be armed- our government, our federal internal security agencies and our various civil policing agencies are taking an increasingly suppressive and violent tack.
So...you need to be armed so that you can be burned alive? I don't quite follow... |
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 LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
2491 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:30:02 AM
Izroth,
The LAPD do not come out of this looking good, but bear in mind his first act was to murder the daughter of someone he had a grudge against.
At that moment, screw him and any claim he might have had to a just cause. Perhaps there was a push to kill him rather than take him alive because of what he knew. It's unfortunate that we'll never know that, but if you go on a killing spree and choose to shoot it out when surrounded that's suicide by cop. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17458 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:25:47 AM
@piperfawn: He KILLED a cop THAT DAY! So YES he is indeed "scary" ok?
Jeez Louise! How many people does one have to MURDER before you're considered "scary" in Europe?
He's proven to be a "cop killer" and burning him out was the best possible solution (since he HAD his chance to surrender, all that time, and refused to, eh?). |
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turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1947 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:18:54 AM
Just because this guy was a psychopathic murderer, doesn't mean his allegations weren't true. Police corruption is a VERY VERY serious and important issue IMO. Personally, I would have liked seen him captured, hear his side of the story and then killed him. Saving a few bucks in court costs and jail is nice, but in this case worth it. All of his accusations will now become and remain conspiracy theorys. |
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 CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
1198 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:16:26 AM
And this is why Americans need to be armed- our government, our federal internal security agencies and our various civil policing agencies are taking an increasingly suppressive and violent tack. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3521 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:16:06 AM
AJ i cant remember the last time i agreed with you on something. |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8769 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:13:00 AM
He's still alive. |
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 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
2972 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:06:41 AM
lets hope this is an end to it. Set up an investigation by an independant body , but if this guy was actually a vigilante he would not have shot the innocent family of those he accused. an investigation must be done so that rumours can be laid to rest, get someone from outside to do it, and then be quiet. |
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 tatripp
Male, 18-29, Western US
1187 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:03:36 AM
Gerry, everyone who owns one of those little cabins up in big bear live somewhere else.
I'm glad they killed him. It'll save the tax payers money.
If cops are getting shot and killed, they should shoot only take him if he surrenders himself. |
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Izroth
Female, 30-39, Midwest US
85 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:59:56 AM
Have any of you seen this?.?.?.
Chris Dorner's Manifesto - possibly the truth behind the killings
If this reads true, some peple in very high placs have some explaining to do...wonder why they torched him and didn't negotiate?? Because he was a witness to a lot misjustice, he tried to do the right thing but was fired, alienated and bullied because of it, I believe he felt this was the only way to bring attention to what he was fighting for. Sad, very sad!!!
I am not saying what he did was justified, but he felt he had no other recourse to bring awareness about the corruption that he witnessed more than once. |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2990 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:58:50 AM
"a burner = tear gas"
Actually, that's not totally true. They have the option to use a non-flammable type. Anyway, they clearly state their intention to ignite the house in those clips. |
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collegebound
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
3521 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:55:43 AM
"a burner = tear gas
They didn't do it on purpose."
did YOU not watch the videos? maybe over there in the big E a burner is tear gas but last time i checked a burner HERE could be a flare, a gun, or something that ISN'T tear gas. tear gas has that one small explosion when it first goes off. if there isn't something like a gas leak (as a gas or a liquid which would cause a full on explosion instead of a fire.) NOTHING is going to catch fire. |
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 Smutleybutt
Male, 18-29, Southern US
669 Posts
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Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:54:01 AM
@Tekinette Everybody that's ever used a smoke or tear gas grenade knows they start fires. It's not like it's a rare event. I've seen a smoke grenade end up at the base of a damn tree stump and light the stump on fire.
You send 7 of these into a house with carpeting you're essentially trying to burn the house down.
So it seems that "burners" are created to, well, "burn" things. |
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