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Tour In Hebron

Hits: 7334 | Rating: (2.5) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: NNoamfer
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fancythat
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1963 Posts
Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:25:13 AM
I'll take a Moderate over an Extremist any day.

MorfeuS
Male, 18-29, Europe
 270 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:10:53 PM
AAaah...technicalities

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:36:40 PM
@FP: Along with Vatican City? Oooo-kay!

And how about all those Muslim nations who defy the UN and REFUSE to admit that Israel is a legitimate nation? You're happy giving a "free pass" to them? Of course you are!

Non-Member State =/= Nation
Israel = Nation
Jordan = Nation

Simple! NEXT!

Jury1of1
Male, 30-39, Western US
 133 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:28:28 PM
I'd take a Jew over an Arab any day of the week.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:03:10 PM
You fail at reading comprehension. The Palestinians won "non-member state" status from the UN. So yes, they do technically recognize it as a state.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:17:59 PM
@FP: So you acknowledge I am correct? Thanks @FoolsPrussia! How nice of you to admit it.

The legal case FOR Israel Sorry, I didn't watch the 45 minute video, but here it is in case y'all wish to.
tr:dr? Israel has just as much right to exist as Jordan does...
Also: Jordan "illegally occupied" the West Bank from 1948 - 1967. How quickly we forget history... or simple "revise" it...

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:28:43 PM
@5Cats: Where have you been?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:09:12 PM
People think two states would solve this ROFL!!!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:53:19 PM
@piperfawn: Does the UN recognize "Palestine" as a "state"? No? Why should Israel?

NEXT!

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:52:18 PM
@piperfawn: I repeat again: In 1948 the UN divided that whole area into: Syria, Jordan, Lebanon & Israel. This was after UK and France had already divided it between themselves after WW1, of course.

No mention of "Palestine" as a seperate nation.

The whole area USED TO be refered to as "Palestine" it's true, so why single out ONLY Israel as the "true Palestine" when the other 3 nations were also part of it?
Jordan was formerly called "Palestinian Trans-Jordan" meaning "the part of Palestine across the Jordan River".

Palestinians make up the MAJORITY of Jordan's population...

Gaza and the West Bank were "disputed territories" and NOT considered "occupied" until AFTER the 1948 invasion by 5+ Arab countries. It would be more accurate to call them "liberated" since the Arabs invaded, and the IDF freed them...

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 2:07:07 PM
and lol 5Cats is not good that you pretend that all the world recognize Israel (also when he occupy foreign territories) and at the same time you don't recognize Palestine as a state. Israel and Palestine were born togheter by international mandatory with well recognized borders. How come that you pretend Isreal is recognized and Palestine no? Double standard again?

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:58:45 PM
5Cats no nerves touched here, i just stated that when we discuss with datas and facts and you feel unconfortable you usualy like to divert the discussion using the anti semitic card. Is an old refrain between me and you and i allready asked you to don't call me anti semitic and i have also tryed to explain you that the equation

Israel= All semites in the world

is really wrong and don't represent at all the reality.
My consideration for your capability to reason is pretty hig, don't waste it using demagogic shortcuts as accusation of antisemitism pls.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 1:18:33 PM
@pf & @FP: Boy! That touched a nerve, didn't it!

@piperfawn: Israel has done nothing to Jordan (Palestine) idk what you're going on about.

@FoolsPrussia: Jews make the best anti-semites. That's an old Jewish saying... (and the OP fits that description, btw)

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:54:00 AM
Again with the anti-semitism defense? Are the Jewish soldiers who are in this video anti-semitic? Are the six former heads of Shin Bet who oppose current Israeli policy anti-semitic? Was Yitzhak Rabin anti-semitic for carving out a peace process that got him killed?

Opposing the government of the USA doesn't make someone anti-American, just as opposing the Nazis in Germany wouldn't have made someone anti-German.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:18:55 AM
5Cats here we go,when out of arguments the only thing to do is to play the anti semitism card, right?
Oh and Israel is destroyng Palestine with facts, not with words.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:58:23 AM
@piperfawn & @FoolsPrussia: Just admit it! You support groups which deny Israel's RIGHT TO EXIST!

Hamas, Hezbullah, PLO & others? That's their one goal: destroy Israel. When they say "restore Palestine" they mean all the land which makes up Israel! Nothing less will do.

The fact that dozens of Muslim nations also wish for Israel's destruction in NO WAY justifies them.

I'm sorry, but naked anti-semitism is not something I'll "let slide" ok?

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:20:45 AM
STUDY GUIDE : International Law & Israel

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:16:46 AM
5Cats you can turn around the discussion as you wish but there is one undeniable reality ,Israel has broken more UN resolutions that any other in UN history.

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 9:06:48 AM
Oh 5Cats i followed your direction to inform myself and guess what? I discovered that the major part of the decrees concerning Israel behaviours are thaken in th "major" part of cases by an "overwhelming majorities"and not by "a small number of member states endorsing them"

piperfawn
Male, 30-39, Europe
 3898 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:58:21 AM
5Cats mine was just a logic answer to your clear sentence"UN Decrees" are worth less than the paper they are printed on." You didn't specify at all what kind of decrees,now with sholders at wall you came out and says there are different kinds of decrees. Can you please have a direction and don't use different standards at the occasion pls? Just for the sake of discussion.

Cajun247 my photos are just a direct answer to photos (most of the photos he posted are photoshopped or just drawings btw)the little brat McGovern1981 have submitted thinking he can solve the discussion with it. Context my friend ;p

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:47:39 AM
"Free Palestine which would be Hamas a group that want to enforce sharia law and wipe all jews from the planet men, women and children.

Hypocritical
double
standard."

None of us are advocating for violent resistance. What we want is for Israel to stop oppressing Palestinian citizens and stop allowing the settlements to grow. That would benefit Israel too, because they would undermine groups like Hamas.

Again, I think you should watch "The Gatekeepers."

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26636 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:42:21 AM
@piperfawn: There are various levels of "UN Decrees" from informal "reccomendations" to formal things like Declairations of War.

These complaints against Israel are the former: a small number of member states endorsing them. Or a select "councils" passing them.

The creation of Israel, Jorda, Lebanon and Syria are the latter: voted on by the General Assembly AND passed by the Security Council.

Please Educate Yourself

@Nickel2: No, in fact they do NOT "worship the same God" at all. Idiot. Jehova, Christ, Allah. DIFFERENT!

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:29:51 AM
Free Palestine which would be Hamas a group that want to enforce sharia law and wipe all jews from the planet men, women and children.

Hypocritical
double
standard.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3402 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 8:09:08 AM
Why is it that a lot of the anti-gun control folks on here, who often use the threat of government as a justification, criticize the Palestinians for rebelling against an occupying force? That seems a bit like a

double
standard.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Tuesday, February 12, 2013 7:34:48 AM
DAAWWWW!! Mommies little haji!!


Wanna take bets the mortar shell is live?

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