 madduck
Female, 40-49, Europe
 2870 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:31:52 AM
I was amazed to discover you do not even need a bloody license to own a gun. Surely that is where you start- get a license, know how many guns the license holder has then KEEP track of it... it is ludicrous you really allow any person to have a gun. no wonder you are in so much crap with the bloody things. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:25:37 AM
Canoas - it IS all right to shoot a burglar.
What kind of world do you want to live in where a person
cannot defend their own home? Does a harmless burglar look different from a guy coming in to rape or kill? I for one don't want to wait until I am shot to find out.
But if you think sending them Thank You Notes is a better solution, let me know how that works out for you. |
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 turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1818 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:24:16 AM
Canoas - That is plain stupid. First off...you are european, YOU DON'T COUNT. Secondly...It is most defiantly ok to shoot someone who breaks into your house. Fecking pussy. Only a sociopath would strip the right of self protection from the law abiding just to protect a criminal. Pussy idiot from the worst generation ever. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:22:26 AM
"I would honestly say that that statistic means that gun control is infact the answer."
Okay, then why is Chicago statistically one of the most violent cities in the US? It has the strictest gun control laws. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5282 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:21:20 AM
If people can make IEDs so easily in Iraq and Afghanistan than I'm sure a person with mental health issues could do the same here. One bomb can be much more "effective at killing" than one bullet.
Possibly, but then why have there been virtually no mass bombings in the US? If they're so easy to make and so much more effective than guns, why haven't we seen more of them? |
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5282 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:20:32 AM
A gun ban would not work. There are more guns than people. Most are not registered. Majority of Americans want the right to bear arms.
That last part is the key to why I also agree that gun control in most forms just won't work in the US. It's not like it's just republicans that like guns, there are many democrats that love them too. This talk of tyrannical governments is just a red herring. When you mix a violent culture with ready access to guns and a heartfelt love of them, it's virtually impossible to stop. That being said, things like background checks don't limit anyone's access to anything unless you aren't supposed to have it in the first place. There's nothing wrong with trying to ensure those that have guns are responsible with them.
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 Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
422 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:15:02 AM
@Gerry1of1
Are you serious? That's definitely not pro-gun, if anything that article proves AR-15 should be banned.
Only in America does someone think it's al right to kill a burgler.
"Oh, you're trying to take my TV? Here's a bullet to the face"
That's why no one likes americans. You guys are sociopaths, no one in their right mind values their computer/tv/etc over a human life.
The only reason why I don't want gun control in the US is so you guys are free to kill each other off. |
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 sparki1980
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
293 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:09:08 AM
"Figure that less than 1% of registered gun owners have gone on shooting rampages and you will see that 'gun control' is NOT the answer."
I would honestly say that that statistic means that gun control is infact the answer. We are not controlling the flow of guns away from the registered. If the only ppl allowed to own were those that were registered, then by those numbers we would have a lot less gun violence. |
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Canoas
Male, 18-29, Europe
422 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:08:28 AM
It's moronic to say that cities/states with stricter gun control should have less gun related crime. Anyone can get a gun in those cities, they just need to drive a bit more to get them. Either make the whole country's gun laws stricter or don't. Doing it state by state will get you nowhere. |
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 tatripp
Male, 18-29, Western US
1182 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:04:37 AM
I applaud that man |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:04:21 AM
"You jackasses realize that the gun control debate today has very little to do with handguns...right?"
It's the old "Slippery Slope" isn't it. Once you take away one gun, it's easier to take away another.
Much like Once you let the government listen in on one phone call, it's easier for warrant-less wiretapping to become standard practice. |
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 wzntme1776
Male, 40-49, Western US
27 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:03:10 AM
Figure that less than 1% of registered gun owners have gone on shooting rampages and you will see that 'gun control' is NOT the answer. The majority of gun murders are committed by UNREGISTERED gun owners; therefore, gun control will only limit registered gun owners from protecting themselves against unregistered gun owners that will still get their guns regardless of whatever gun control measures are implemented. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:01:47 AM
Here is a dandy little link I found in the LIVE SUBMISSIONS.
It was never approved 'cause pro-gun news items almost never get posted.
15 Year old shoots burglars protecting his 12 year old sister |
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 GhettoNinja
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
889 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:59:21 AM
You jackasses realize that the gun control debate today has very little to do with handguns...right? Other than concerns with growing magazine capacity...it is about weapons that give amateur psychopathic shooters the capability to murder many in a short time.
I am well protected with a .38 revolver in one of the worst areas in the US.
It is hard enough to consider backdrop when shooting with a powerful handgun...given a rifle it is frightening to think of how much damage an errant shot could do. |
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sparki1980
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
293 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:53:32 AM
So CoyoteKing, I agree it's not ideal for all the guns to be kept at certain locations. That again thanks to advancements that have happened in over 200 years, the government can swiftly take out all militia's in a coordinated effort. Something that would have been impossible before the telephone.
But if you want to protect yourself from a government with tanks and planes, then you need tanks and planes.. if you don't then you might as well just have rocks. And if I own a tank or a predator drone and live next to you, do you want me to just keep it in the garage?? Do you just want to assume that that kind of power living next to you is not going to snap one day and take out the entire block?
The wording is "well regulated". So already 2nd amendment states that these militia's that we have to protect ourselves from the government must be regulated by the government.
As I said I love the "militia vs bad gov" argument bc it's stupid. And gun |
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 whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2260 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:51:52 AM
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10249 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:51:02 AM
"Nothing we're going to do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to 1,000 a year from what it is now," Joe Biden
But lets waste time and money anyway cause it'll keep people from seeing everything else we're f**king up!! |
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GhettoNinja
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
889 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:46:20 AM
So...the same title under the video that someone else put on another site.
Not very creative. |
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turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1818 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:43:12 AM
The bill of rights is non negotiable. Other laws can and should be revised as democracy demands, but not the bill. They are the basis of this country, and if you don't agree with those rights, you are in the wrong country.
A gun ban would not work. There are more guns than people. Most are not registered. Majority of Americans want the right to bear arms. I own weapons so I can ACTIVELY protect my home and family. I will not give up my rights to protect others who have not taken the same active approach to protection and safety.
It's sad when people are shot. It's also not my problem and defiantly not my fault. Find a way to prevent such criminals without striping me of my right and protection.
Regardless of how you feel about guns, the fact remains, a ban will not work. |
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 CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
2994 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:39:23 AM
"a country where guns are banned..."
so your police force and military don't have guns? the 2nd amendment is mainly there to let the people protect themselves from the government |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25652 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:37:50 AM
If strict gun control laws reduced violent crime
then Chicago would be the safest place on Earth.
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10249 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:37:15 AM
@Tekinette
Ya like Switzerland!!! Oh ya wait a sec.... |
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CoyoteKing
Male, 18-29, Southern US
2994 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:37:13 AM
"And require EVERY weapon be stored at a "militia hq"/"gun club". This way we have a chance against bad gov, and we don't have to worry about the wako"
Great idea, when the bad government wants to take away guns from the people, and they don't want to worry about militias then they will know exactly were all our guns are kept and raid those places first. Do you even think before you come up with these crazy ideas? It is much harder to disarm 100 households with one gun each in their 100 houses, than disarm 100 households with one gun each that are all kept in one location. Same goes for the wako, he now knows where to find all the guns. He probably isn't worried about breaking to steal them if he plans to shoot others and himself anyways. |
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 Tekinette
Male, 18-29, Europe
255 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:33:44 AM
"We need guns to protect ourselves from the people with guns."
Gotta love that logic... If you need to carry a weapon to feel safe then something is wrong with your society. People that are against gun control have obviously never been to a country where guns are banned...
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 markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:28:41 AM
This guy was well prepared and articulate. All that was thrown out the window when he brought up the Third Reich in his closing remarks. At that point I bet most of the leaders in the room immediately wrote him off as a nut who lives in a world of fear and conspiracy theories. |
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