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Gun Control - An American's Opinion

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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13338 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:40:25 PM
Won't somebody please think of the inmates!!! Mmmmmm naahhh!!

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5656 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:18:42 PM
Yup- that liberty thing again. How is that going for all those incarcerated in your prisons??

turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3639 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:29:46 AM

A very intelligent (and handsome) man once said:

"The bill of rights is non negotiable. Other laws can AND SHOULD be revised as democracy demands, but not the bill. They are the basis of this country, and if you don't agree with those rights, you are in the wrong country. "

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5656 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:12:36 AM
Yeah- I heard that idea- that's the one that scares the crap out of me. Blind people also may not actually be the best people to have guns, or even very short sighted people who don't wear glasses, or those with motor control issues. The idea that gun control means taking guns away is not true- it means control... and sorry, no matter what anyone says, common sense dictates that quite a few sets of people are just not safe to have guns.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 11:00:38 AM

One easy control system is Arm Everyone.
If you knew you stood a very good chance of getting your ass shot off, you'd probably behave better.

That's just one school of thought. There are others.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5656 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:54:32 AM
I do get it Gerry- it is just that, for example- in NY i have to buy a gun then wait two weeks before I can get it then fill in paperwork, but In PA I can jus go and buy one, without notice. i decide one day that my neighbour is an alien- I go to buy a gun, but have to wait - but hey- a hour down the road and I am all kitted out, ready to blow the brains out of that alien neighbour. so the tighter restrictions in NY are actually pointless because I can drive? I can see the problem, and I can see you cannot/should not ban guns- but some sensible, universal control seems needed- and I would have thought that all states could agree- so each state has a law which is the same as the federal law- and all those laws are the same? Because- those old ladies--- they are really really not good people to have armed- they shoot worse than they drive.....

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3692 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:43:12 AM
@wzntme1776 - Semper Fi, brother

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:43:10 AM

madduck, think of the US as kinda like the UK

Each state is supposed to rule itself, just as Scotland & Wales have their own parliaments. Our Federal government was never supposed to rule over us, just provide stable economy & military. It's grown and grown and is out of control. STATES RIGHTS to make something legal, or not, depending on local values and mores. That's why prostitution is legal in Nevada but not in California {except politicians of course}.

Gun control is a States Rights issue to regulate. Just as some states legalize pot, but the Feds don't want to legalize it. {The Feds have no business outlawing it.} You see the prickle we're in? It's a mess on every topic, guns, drugs, who can marry who.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5656 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:11:19 AM
You all have a right to liberty- you imprison people all the time, yet you baulk at preventing certain people from owning guns- how is that different? By all your arguments your freedom is a privilege? You claim that you have gun control- yet it seems to vary from state to state- thus making it as effective as the least controlled state. surely if you own a gun you need to abide by certain standard- have appropriate training, go on a course every year or so, keep track of your guns ( i.E- DON'T LOSE THEM) - and if you can show that you abide by these very basic standards you get to have a gun... if not you have proved you are irresponsible. These wee old ladies, who apparently carry big guns, with failing eyesight, arthritic wrists and possible Alzheimers- do you think this is a good and safe idea? The mad bloke down the road- with anger issues, drug related paranoia, who has done 10 years for GBH- him too?

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:58:37 AM
Allow me to posit that mass murders and all other crimes would be greater reduced by corrupting the First Amendment than corrupting the Second. By controlling the media (video games, news, movies, music, etc.), I believe that these crimes would be reduced far more than if we were to simply control firearm availability.

Surely then, we should be discussing how to alter or repeal the First Amendment; think of all the good it could do.

Of course, we won't do that - it's crazy. Why can't we do that? Because it's in the Bill of Rights.... but the Second Amendment, that's fair game right? Because, well, it's old and the Founders didn't know we'd have these modern weapons. But then again, the First Amendment is old too, and the Founders didn't realize we'd have the internet, radio, or television. So, what the heck, let's give it a try, eh?

Don't be a hypocrite.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:27:36 AM

You want licenses to own a gun?
And who is denied the license?
Who qualifies to own a gun?
Who doesn't?
And once you start that, next year they add to the list of "unworthy" types.

Example, can someone who has a history of psychological problems get a license? You realize anyone who ever went to a therapist for any reason has a "history". What about antidepressants? Check the YES box "have you ever taken antidepressants" and you can be denied. Even if it was 15 years ago during a bad divorce and you don't take them anymore. Maybe you're worse because you stopped taking them!

See where this goes?

wzntme1776
Male, 40-49, Western US
 27 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:02:03 AM
@whodat6484: Semper Fi

wzntme1776
Male, 40-49, Western US
 27 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:57:42 AM
"I would honestly say that that statistic means that gun control is infact the answer. We are not controlling the flow of guns away from the registered. If the only ppl allowed to own were those that were registered, then by those numbers we would have a lot less gun violence."

Ask Chicago and DC how that worked out for them. youre missing the point. the people killing other people dont take the time to apply for a gun license and get their weapons registered. They get them illegally just like theyll continue to do regardless of whatever restrictions are placed on legally obtaining a gun. Think, man!

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13338 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:55:23 AM
Me....


Ummmmm it's the glasses right???RIGHT!!!

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 7:48:39 AM

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13338 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:45:40 AM

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13338 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:30:09 AM


McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13338 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:24:40 AM


Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 6:20:25 AM

Azaram
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 130 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 5:22:33 AM
Madduck; that's a dishonest tactic. "It says they can have guns, but it doesn't say they can have AMMO!" And it won't make any difference. It's already illegal to kill people with guns. Surprisingly, however, criminals don't follow laws...

avail9988
Male, 18-29, Australia
 678 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 1:50:05 AM
"English is not my first language" Proceeds to speak better English then the majority of English people

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5656 Posts
Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:00:37 AM
It seems then that what you need is some kind of universal control. Gun ownership is fine, but just as when you behave in a certain way you lose your freedom then if you behave in a certain way you lose your gun. If you could agree on how that COULD be done and actually DO it, then those who do not comply could have the wrath of hell land firmly on them. Perhaps you could keep the guns but step down the ammo?

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 851 Posts
Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:14:14 PM
oh and note the day of the last attack in China

djwajda
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 851 Posts
Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:13:42 PM
knives aren't bad right?

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 14101 Posts
Wednesday, February 06, 2013 11:04:44 PM
I was amazed to discover you do not even need a bloody license to own a gun.

If you need a license, it's not a right; it's a privilege. The difference is that a privilege can easily be taken away (especially if you're stupid enough to tell the government about your guns).

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