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 whipplefunk
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 485 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 9:22:00 PM
Lets be more smug, bill. |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:25:53 PM
markust: "...imaginary government takeover..."
It's not 'imaginary' when it comes straight out of the communist manifesto. It's not imaginary when governments, marching their way toward tyranny, disarm the public to enforce it's will upon the governed.
Our founders knew this basic simple fact about freedom, disarming the public leads to tyranny. Not rarely, not sometimes, not most of the time, but ALL THE TIME. |
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 HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2913 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:24:10 PM
Didn't America's most famous sniper and another marine that were armed at a gun range just get killed?
Explain to me again how a gun protects you. Pretty sure if those guys couldn't protect themselves you or some school teacher have f.uck all of a chance. |
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 Grommen
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
12 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 8:15:09 PM
@drawman61 'I, too, picked up on the "endowed by our creator not you politicians". So Washington and the gang are Gods now?'
No, he was quoting the Declaration of Independence, which George Washington neither wrote nor signed. |
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 DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
917 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 7:40:04 PM
Don't kid yourselves. There are powers at work that want to strip us of all gun rights. I'm old enough to remember..."we only want to ban smoking on short (under 2 hour air flights) flights." A few years later is was long flights, then it was all flights, then it was this part of the airport, then it was the whole airport, then it was a part of a restaurant, then it was the whole restaurant, then it was a section of a bar, then it was the whole bar, then it was go outside, then it was don't stand more than 20 feet from the door...
The gun issue is no different.
So fancythat your hypothetical 1000 round perpetrator is the least of my worries. Your argument is paranoid weak sauce. |
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 markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:19:21 PM
I think I know what the extreme gun nuts are afraid of and it is not this imaginary government takeover - that is just a diversion. They don't want to get on a Federal No Sell List. I would love to see a Federal No Sell List so people like the Virginia tech shooter could have been placed on it. The thing is it will never happen because it would break so many HIPAA laws. So don't worry, you crazy bastards are safe. |
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 CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
1198 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:07:24 PM
The government has proven time and again, that your cold, dead hands are just fine by them- better to make it THEIR cold, dead hands. |
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dirtysteve00
Male, 30-39, Europe
316 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 6:00:44 PM
'To those individuals claiming that fighting the government is the same as fighting the military: Take it from a former soldier in the US Army... Our allegiance is to the PEOPLE, not the government. '
What was the last war you fought in where the reasons were that clear-cut? The army doesn't remove guns, the Police, ATF and Feds do.
Armed forces would be deployed only after something way more serious, like another attempted secession. |
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uatme
Male, 18-29, Canada
790 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:35:58 PM
All I got from that was change the constitution with an amendment. |
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 pirhomaniak
Male, 30-39, Western US
58 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:31:49 PM
@fancythat Well said. |
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 fancythat
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
1417 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:14:23 PM
As a CT resident, I hope this guy is prepared to stop armor piercing bullets being spewed at his house and family at a rate of 1000 rounds every minute, because with *no* legislation limiting what can be procured, that's what the next home invader may have in their hands. ... Perhaps it's best if we have the legislature limit what can be had by the public - oh wait, we already do, and no tyrants have stormed his castle. So, can we at least *discuss* the possibility of limiting how many rounds, or at what rate an amount of ammunition can be fired from a weapon, or are you going to take that as an insult and escalate the conversation all the way to "from my cold dead hands?" |
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 drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
1404 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:55:41 PM
Strong words Zuriel. Hey isn't that the kind of argument those German citizens who signed up as Nazi's used to justify their actions, "Not me, pal, I was just following orders". |
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 NottaSpy
Male, 40-49, Western US
838 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:53:21 PM
It seems Mr. Stevens took American History, but skipped Political Science. The U.S. Constitution supersedes his State Constitution. So, while his State Constitution may not mention "well regulated", the "supreme law of the land" certainly does. Maybe he can set down his gun long enough to Google the "Supremacy Clause". |
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Zuriel
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
412 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:41:05 PM
@taylor_stone
"Take it from a former soldier in the US Army... Our allegiance is to the PEOPLE, not the government."
..cough cough.. bullpoocough....
i'll believe it when i turn the news on and hear a report of some soldier refusing to send in a drone strike when civilian lives could be lost.
go sell your self righteousness somewhere else pal
Oh didn't you hear in the news today, ANY american citizen world wide can be killed WITHOUT due process, if that person is suspected... SUSPECTED of having al-Qaeda involvement... NO PROOF NEEDED.
so yea, suck on that soldier boy who believes what he's told, you're the worst kind of sheep |
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drawman61
Male, 50-59, Europe
1404 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:31:59 PM
I, too, picked up on the "endowed by our creator not you politicians". So Washington and the gang are Gods now?
And I wonder what he would have to say if little Victoria and her friends found they key to his little gun safe one day and accidently blew each other's heads off. No nasty man to blame then...or is there, dad? |
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 joeblowsglas
Male, 30-39, Western US
72 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:27:49 PM
gross |
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 xCANDACEx
Female, 30-39, Southern US
103 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:21:16 PM
catgirl time. |
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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:19:54 PM
"Bill Stevens for president."
The thought of a president who puts his version of god above the the laws of our land scares the crap out of me. |
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 taylor_stone
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2478 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:15:24 PM
@beefser25
To those individuals claiming that fighting the government is the same as fighting the military: Take it from a former soldier in the US Army... Our allegiance is to the PEOPLE, not the government. We are citizens too. If the government is encroaching upon the rights of the people, then WE are being targeted too. A majority of the military would join any revolt made by the people, not just because the obligation we swore to is to the people, but because WE ARE THE PEOPLE... Just as much as anyone else is.
[quote[ if you really believe the government is out to get you, it's likely that you suffer from a mental illness.
Would you have said the same thing to Pre WWII Germany? Or Russia under Stalin's power? Or N Korea under the power of Kim Jong Il? Anyone not realizing that the government CAN be corrupt, and that it the responsibility of the people to purge it, is the one with the serious mental defect. |
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markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:13:41 PM
He had a few good points but he stunk those up with the irrational argument of a state capitol having metal detectors when his elementary school didn't. Where does that end? Do you have metal detectors on school bus doors? Armed guards on every school bus? The anti-gun restriction crowd is just as reactionary as the gun restriction crowd. You know what being reactionary gets you? A walk through airport security in your socks. |
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 Kain1
Male, 18-29, Europe
1283 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:06:55 PM
"these rights are inalienable and endowed by our creator, not you politicians, to all citizens regardless of gender race or creed."
Am i the only one who notices the multiple layers of complete idiocy of this sentence? |
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dirtysteve00
Male, 30-39, Europe
316 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:03:15 PM
'Endowed by our creator'
Looool!
Didn't give those rights to the slaves for awhile though.
Another tough guy who thinks he could fight a real physical attempt to remove guns.
Not seeing the ownage here at all. |
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 mykunter
Male, 40-49, Southern US
1590 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 4:00:56 PM
Bill Stevens for president. |
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DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
917 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:58:11 PM
And beefser swings and misses the point entirely. |
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 Mahaloth
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
125 Posts
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Tuesday, February 05, 2013 3:46:03 PM
Congress? |
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