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Political Cartoon--Oh, Now I Get It [Pic]

Hits: 13949 | Rating: (1.8) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: fancylad
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MrPeabody
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1795 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:52:02 AM
@markust123
Even after you post a picture of the article people still can't see the hero in the drawing. People only see what they want to see.


Thanks, and yeah I don't get it either, it's rather frustrating.

unmercyfuldu
Male, 18-29, Western US
 774 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:51:58 AM
@5Cats, thanks for clarifying that you are racist simply because the ""left wing" political and social idiology" is opposed to racism. Believing the opposite of every position an ideology holds just to spite the name of that ideology isn't a childish way to form opinions or anything! Good job human!

MrPeabody
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1795 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:36:42 AM
@5Cats
@r66tramp
@Anyone else

1. This has nothing to do with Norman Rockwell other than the author of the article hijacked the picture.

2. Please don't comment on my comments if you are not going to read the article the picture is part of. And I don't mean run off to Wikipedia with part of the information. I'm also less inclined to believe that this is about Jacob Burkle, but is more about revisionist history, but read it and come to your own conclusion.

ok, Here is the link one more time:
READ THE DAMN ARTICLE
READ THE DAMN ARTICLE
READ THE DAMN ARTICLE
READ THE DAMN ARTICLE
READ THE DAMN ARTICLE
READ THE DAMN ARTICLE
READ THE DAMN ARTICLE


Sorry, needed to make it big enough, you've missed it 3 other times.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 26333 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 9:50:27 AM
@Mr.Peabody: Thanks in advance for your patience.
So Jacob Burkle was a Klansman, BUT he also helped rescue slaves? Is that the story? If he wasn't in the KKK, why is he wearing the hood? If this is a pre-civil war story, why have a civil war flag? Or the KKK for that matter, since they formed AFTER it.

Q: What's HITLER doing in the picture?

Burkle Estate

@turdburglar: I disagree with almost every "left wing" political and social idiology, so naturally I speak out against them. I disagree with some right wingers too, but there's no need to mention that since a HURRICANE of screaming leftists always rises up to attack ANYTHING they disagree with...

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:37:40 AM
"I don't get why so few have figured that out!"

Because in this case he is way off the mark. Not slamming SmagBoy1 because I usually agree with him. Check out the article MrPeabody added. When you read the article that goes along with the cartoon it makes sense.

SCfan
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 1935 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:37:34 AM
Fancy can't help it if it was colored people as the perpetrators of those acts.

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3400 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:31:13 AM
"You realize, of course, that in their heyday, the Klan were ALL Democrats, don't you?"

You would have been a Democrat at that time, too.

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 8:11:25 AM
Way to kick off the first day of Black History Month Fancylad; a post about black people stealing chicken, another that furthers the stereotype of how bad of tippers large groups of black people are, and a cartoon that people misrepresented into something racist when it is the exact opposite.

broizfam
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 3709 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:55:57 AM
@SmagBoy1,
Thank you! I don't get why so few have figured that out!

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:50:49 AM
@MrPeabody "It is representing one man, Jacob Burkle, a white man in the confederate south who was a part of the Underground Railroad. His activities by necessity remained hidden until a few decades ago. Where he lived if you voiced opposition to slavery, you were run out of town at best, you and your family murdered at the worst. So he had to blend in while helping slaves escape."

Even after you post a picture of the article people still can't see the hero in the drawing. People only see what they want to see.

Johanvb
Male, 40-49, Europe
 441 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:30:26 AM
@SmagBoy1
Phew glad you cleared that up. I was afraid i missed a news item about Joe Simon or Jack Kirby where found out to be racists and that i, after years of reading their racist propaganda, had to go out on the streets an' kill me some whomper, loggers or what 'they' should be called.
I have got bronchitis and I ain't got time for that.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:18:52 AM
On another note, I noticed that they've started calling that gobshyte younger son of Prince Charles "Captain Wales" now that he's been promoted to flying helicopters (well, sitting in the back) in between getting photographed naked in Las Vegas hotel rooms and dressing as a Nazi for fancy dress parties. Every time I hear the phrase "Captain Wales" I think of a character akin to Captain America, but with a sheepskin cape and a shield with a dragon on it.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:17:31 AM
Sweet and subtle, MacGuffin.

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:12:31 AM

So, there you have it, chaps. If you want to escape criticism, you just need to find one major event in your history in which you are the victim and the world will side with you as one in sympathy and protect you from criticism for the next 911 years. Where on earth will you ever find such a historical event to use a convenient excuse for escaping criticism for your brutality, though, I wonder?

MacGuffin
Female, 30-39, Europe
 2597 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:12:18 AM
It's too bad you Yanks have never been the victim of genocide at any point in your past. Because if you had you'd be able to defend yourself against cartoons that were in any way critical of your present political actions in the way the Israelis do, and have people take you seriously when you get upset about valid criticism of your actions on the world stage.

The Israeli government has really got this down to a fine art. They love to perpetuate the idea that every criticism of their actions is anti-Semitic in some way. It isn't, if course, any more than criticism of the government of Robert Mugabwe is racist, or criticism of the present government of Germany is sexist.

...

Plangkye
Female, 18-29, Eastern US
 258 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 5:50:53 AM
Crackyhoss: What it's saying is that the violent, bigoted idiots are the ones who blindly think of themselves as true Americans, and that's very unfortunate.

crackyhoss
Male, 18-29, Western US
 245 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 4:01:04 AM
not sure I get it... americans are nazis and KKK members? americans are all racist? yea... ironic.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1266 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:30:30 AM
"I'm sure there's a gun angle you can work in, too."

Of course. The gun control movement originated in the Deep South to disarm blacks and prevent them defending themselves from people like the Democrat Party's militant wing, the KKK. Hitler, also depicted here, introduced strict gun control in the Dritte Reich.

SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4243 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 2:48:33 AM
Man, you guys are thinking way too hard about this. It's showing a racist painter(KKK and 'stars and bars' as symbols for racism) looking in the mirror and seeing himself as a virtuous hero of the people (Captain America). That doesn't have to be a liberal view, a conservative view or any other view. It doesn't have to align to a political party. It *ought* to be a moral warning for *all* of us.

It's a critique on human nature and failure to check motives. That's it.

flying_ltj
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 340 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 2:23:20 AM
Im sure there is a message somewhere in that drawing. But all I can look at when I view it is that dude's disproportionally large butt.

r66tramp
Male, 40-49, Canada
 678 Posts
Saturday, February 02, 2013 12:23:49 AM
'There are 2 possible meanings to this picture...'

Your mind needs 'expansion'. Rockwell's original depiction has a dozen or more implications. Add to it the current modifications and then we have dozens or more. Are you people that simple? OMFG!

As Rick Masters said 'yer taste is in yer ass'

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Friday, February 01, 2013 11:53:31 PM
"You realize, of course, that in their heyday, the Klan were ALL Democrats, don't you?"

Another retarded graduate from Glenn Beck university. The only Republicans in the South from the late 1800's to the 1960's were uber-liberals and blacks. Do you really think the South was going to be a part of the party of Lincoln? Hell no! They were all Democrats (conservatives and liberals). But of course you have had this explained to you at least fifty times on here OldOllie. At this point you are just being a troll.

MrPeabody
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 1795 Posts
Friday, February 01, 2013 11:21:15 PM
@5Cats
Having re-read the entire article I linked to below, There are 2 possible meanings to this picture:

1. It is to represent Jacob Burkle (after more attention to the article, I'm probably wrong on this theory though)
or
2. The article goes on to describe the climate in Memphis (TN) where "The rewriting of history in the South is a retreat by beleaguered whites into a mythical self-glorification." So it appears the author is describing how white politicians etc. are trying to espouse a revisionist history of the civil war, and the south's involvement.

unmercyfuldu
Male, 18-29, Western US
 774 Posts
Friday, February 01, 2013 10:55:45 PM
Yes 5Cats... Being critical of the KKK, the confederacy and Hitler is all part of the leftist political agenda and not simply the agenda of reasonable human beings everywhere. You could be critical of this work as simplistic or un-motivated but it is clear as day that your real criticism steams from you apologetics of racism. You clearly seem personally attacked by the message and not the artistic integrity.

r66tramp
Male, 40-49, Canada
 678 Posts
Friday, February 01, 2013 10:52:55 PM
In 'my' view, I think Rockwell would love this and hate it at the same time. I think... in the end, Rockwell would be pleased...IN 'MY' MIND.

Who knows? The prick has been long dead.

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