 tiedyed
Male, 40-49, Western US
 132 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:32:31 PM
You know I was just thinking...it's been far too long since someone started up this stupid tipping debate again. |
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 Runemang
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
589 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:19:11 PM
I agree he should tip something but if I saw a bill with the tip filled in I'd be more likely to tip like poo. I normally just double the price and move the decimal (ie 20% tip) and reduce it for service from there, but to be expected to pay 18%? ... yeah, here's your 5-10%. |
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 mykunter
Male, 40-49, Southern US
1590 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:54:54 PM
@tedgp if you ever visit the U.S. please stick to fast food restaurants.
My personal tipping scale:
10% for horrible service
15% for less than perfect service
20%-30% for above average service
A couple of the restaurants I regularly visit give me a lunch card they stamp; buy 10 get the next one free. I leave the server $5 on the free one. Normally my lunch tip is about $3.
IF YOU EAT OUT IN THE U.S. YOU NEED TO TIP! IT'S A F*CKING RULE! END OF DISCUSSION. |
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 slut_etta
Female, 50-59, Southern US
2140 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:50:19 PM
what would jesus do, indeed! |
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 HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2913 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:40:40 PM
tedgp
"greed takes over and they think they can make a killing from tips. "
I can't tell if you are being, sarcastic, flaming, or just a total f.ucking moron. However I will give you the benefit of the doubt and just say it is because you are European so you don't understand the tipping set up in America.
That being said, if you ever come here and choose to never tip, may I recommend not eating in the same restaurant twice? I promise you would be consuming all matter of unpleasantness on the second trip.
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tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
2933 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:19:46 PM
Again, thats not the customers fault. The person who applied for the job of a server knew what they were getting themselves into. Unfortunately greed takes over and they think they can make a killing from tips.
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 An-egg
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
726 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:10:16 PM
@tedgp
go and look up US minimum wages, in a lot of places there is a different minimum wage for people who can get tips. In some States it is something derisory like $2 an hour compared to $7.25 (the national minimum wage, the lowest allowable, higher in some states but there for comparison).
So it is legal to pay them almost nothing (which is what I would call $2 an hour).
Is this right? I don't know, but they have certainly taken into account the "It's not fair that they get tips and I don't" argument.
This is quite possibly different wherever you come from but you might have more insight into the American point of view after looking into it. |
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tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
2933 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 4:00:02 PM
@fools really? Explain why you think that? The job is clearly advertised at a set wage. People go for that job knowing they are being shafted, but their greed thinks they can make a ton of cash through tips. Sorry bud. It doesnt work like that in the real world i.e every other country. |
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tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
2933 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:58:51 PM
There would be plenty of servers. Try leaving the U.S sometime. Over there they all seem to be self-obsessed and think they are entitled to things. |
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jonswan12
Male, 18-29, Western US
53 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:54:20 PM
@tedgp If nobody tipped, there would be no servers. That, or the people that would be taking a job like that would be miserable. Waiting is a tough job and in order for the restaurant to make any money at all they pay their servers less and the people that come in give a little extra for the service. If you don't like tipping, stay the drat home and cook your own food. |
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 FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2874 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:51:59 PM
"At the end of the day, its the servers fault for getting a job there in the first place, where they KNEW they were getting shafted by management."
You are clearly just an a-hole who has little grasp on reality. |
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tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
2933 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:45:27 PM
I never tip. Ever. People get paid for doing their jobs. I dont get tipped for doing mine.
And dont say crap about minimum wage garbage. If the employer is paying them less than minimum wage, then the police or whoever needs to be involved. At the end of the day, its the servers fault for getting a job there in the first place, where they KNEW they were getting shafted by management. |
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jonswan12
Male, 18-29, Western US
53 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:42:58 PM
Instead of complaining that the waiter gets 18%, maybe the pastor should start giving god 18%. Don't cheap out on god, man. |
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jonswan12
Male, 18-29, Western US
53 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:40:06 PM
I used to deliver pizzas. Once, I delivered about 10 pizzas to a party at a church. It took awhile to find the people in the church and longer to take all the pizzas to where they were at. They were super nice to me as I was to them. But naturally they stiffed me on the tip. Shortly after that I got a license plate holder that said "if you don't tip your pizza delivery driver, go to hell." Ironically I ended up donating that car to a church, remembering the license plate holder days later |
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 SmagBoy1
Male, 40-49, Southern US
2749 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:14:05 PM
So, when people tithe 10%, where does that go? To the church fund. And what does the church fund go to? To pay the pastor. And to buy poo for the pastor. And to do things the pastor wants to do. So a pastor saying that he tithes 10% to God is like saying that he masturbates in his own wallet. Well, you know, or something. |
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FoolsPrussia
Male, 18-29, Western US
2874 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:13:59 PM
That 10% doesn't even go to God. I'm pretty sure omnipotent beings don't have much use for money, anyway. |
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cman7721
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
580 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:13:48 PM
The 10% tithing is a completely different thing to tipping a waitress. This is just a douche penny pincher who has a bad excuse. Not exactly living the Christian life with that attitude is he? |
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 DuckBoy87
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2097 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:13:28 PM
I usually go by the rule of thumb of 10% for good service, 15% for fantastic service. I don't understand why the percentages have risen in the past few years. The rising cost of food should cover the percentage.
Say in 2000, I order food that comes to $20 and the service was good. I'd leave 10%, and they'd get $2.
In 2010, I'd order the same food and the total comes to $30, and the service was the same. They now get $3.
But this rise in percentage, but not a rise in service would make it $2 to $4.5.
The last restaurant I went to, I tipped 12%. The service was better than what I set the standard to but not so much that she deserved more. |
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FoSchizle
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
294 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:09:12 PM
99.9% of pastors aren't like that. Some even go to restaurants they know their church members frequent and make up for any stingy tips their clients give out of their own pocket. |
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 Solvent
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
2712 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:04:54 PM
Gratuity just sounds like a forced tip which is no bueno. |
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 that1joshguy
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
176 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:54:27 PM
my pastor actually spoke out against this kind of stuff |
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 jendrian
Male, 18-29, Canada
2356 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:48:08 PM
Wow, pretty nervy asking for extra money so up-front like that... |
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 Burton_Ian
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
801 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:46:12 PM
Nettech98: The eighteen percent tip was added automatically because he was in a large group, so it was added automatically. Most restaurants, that I'm aware of, automatically add a gratuity for large groups, simply because it is a little bit of a strain on the restaurant to service them -- more orders, have to check-back more frequently, obvious stuff like that.
And it's not like he's giving the guy ten percent of everything he earns -- like he gives God. Plus, if he wasn't a pastor and was likely tax exempt, he would have to give the government more than ten percent, so does he advise people not to pay taxes? He just sounds like an asshat. |
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 swiftkeys
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
453 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:42:51 PM
Pastor? I'm thinking this was probably the doing of a rabbi... |
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HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
2913 Posts
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:40:38 PM
Imaginary friends get 10%, people bringing you food get 18%. Seems reasonable to me. |
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