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Who's REALLY Getting Government Handouts? [Pic]

Hits: 12634 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: chalket
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4853 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:51:32 PM
If Faith were such a good worker, she would have a better job than working at Walmart.

The reason Walmart pays $8 an hour is that is about how much the work they accomplish is worth to the company.

Don't like it? Don't work there. There's only tens of millions of people equally 'qualified' to put a can of Pork-n-Beans on a shelf, or qualified to ignore you when you ask where something is.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5167 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:46:10 PM
AntEconomist

Apple makes money from designing and creating products that are highly desirable. Walmart makes money from being huge enough to buy products at low rates, pay employees low wages, sell products at a low rate and do it on a massive scale. It is a little different.

Now this is not taking into account that the people producing apple products are taken advantage of in the name of profit as well.


HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:45:50 PM
People clearly see the $500 Apple gets. People do not clearly see the benefit I get and so erroenously believe that the profit represents ill-gotten gains from a one-sided transaction rather than one-half of a mutually beneficial exchange.

Brilliantly stated.

Additionally, I notice that everyone is quick to consider how to fix the problem (evil Walmart) yet we do not reflect on how we got here. The result of the 1938 minimum wage laws was actually a drop in low-skill salaries because of two reasons: first, the equilibrium wage was higher than the new minimum; and second, companies took this as a standard and lowered the salaries of many employees to the "government sponsered" rate.

Government is partially to blame, and as such, we should also look into how to fix that aspect as well.

AntEconomist
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 263 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:39:05 PM
Most discussions like this arise from a fundamental misunderstanding of what profit is. We see the profit a seller makes from selling. It's easy to measure and report. What is harder to see and what people invariably ignore is the benefit the buyer obtains from buying. If I freely hand over $500 to Apple for an iPhone, I benefit because I clearly value the iPhone more than I value the $500.

People clearly see the $500 Apple gets. People do not clearly see the benefit I get and so erroenously believe that the profit represents ill-gotten gains from a one-sided transaction rather than one-half of a mutually beneficial exchange.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 6116 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:38:57 PM
The figures may well be off- but the principle is not. I am not au fait with the American system, but, as I said, we have income top ups here- and this reasoning fits perfectly with that. A few years ago I worked for a major Pub group as Bar manager- 45 ( which actually meant 52 on site) hours a week, did orders, cellaring, manged staff etc, held keys. I did not make enough money every week to clear my rent.. so I got rent benefit. This chain paid their shareholders a big dividend and declared excellent profits that year.... so- who exactly did that income top up benefit???

markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3785 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:32:23 PM
Two reason's I am not going to get into this. One the link was purposely cut off the picture. Two, the Author's name is all over Crooks and Liars. That would be like giving exposure to a Breitbart contributor. Partisan politics is partisan politics and has no business in rational conversation.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5167 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:29:48 PM
Andrew155

"Wow HolyGod, everyone IS a victim to you. Or at least a potential victim. You live in a cesspool of victimhood. A sad place, that must be."

Not at all. I'm not a victim. I've been self employed, doing a job I love and would do for free, making 6 figures since my early 20s. However, I realize how blessed and fortunate I have been and simply wish that every person had a decent life, especially those that are willing to work for it.

I guess that would be the "christian" view, despite the facts that most "christians" don't seem to have it.

SageBlue
Male, 30-39, Western US
 71 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:26:58 PM
Or a simple solution to cut the profits of Walmart is to NOT shop there. Period.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5167 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:25:26 PM
McGovern1981

I'm not saying Iraq was a good place. However there is no denying we went there on a lie. If they would have said "there is a brutal dictator who needs to be removed and it is our duty as leaders of the free world to do it", I would have supported that. Then you have to remove other brutal dictators too. There are a lot of guys worse than Sadam.

Johanvb
Male, 40-49, Europe
 448 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:25:14 PM
I wouldn't expect anything else from a country that is proud of its gratuity and tip system for waiters and waitresses.
It saddens me to see that a country that is so proud of being the beacon of light for the free world, and tries it best to be more Christian than Vatican city, still has a need for a modern form of slave-labor.
The land of the free, but only for those who can pay for their freedom.

Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
 987 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:23:48 PM
Walmart just smoked the pooout of Zellers in my neighborhood, Kmart? wtf happened to Kmart? the Bay? good luck.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4915 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:22:13 PM
McGovern,

Nah, covers all of them.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4915 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:19:46 PM
'Corporate bodies are more corrupt and profligate than individuals, because they have more power to do mischief, and are less amenable to disgrace or punishment. They feel neither shame, remorse, gratitude, nor good-will. The principle of private or natural conscience is extinguished in each individual (we have no moral sense in the breasts of others), and nothing is considered but how the united efforts of the whole (released from idle scruples) may be best directed to the obtaining of political advantages and privileges to be shared as common spoil.'

Hazlitt nailed it in 1821.

Corporations exist only to make money and have no moral or ethical dimension and if you work there and would like beter conditions you're a slut and a moron, and if you think another model is possible you're a libtard.

Your education system seems to be doing just what it was meant to.


skypirate
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2104 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:19:28 PM
If Grace can only earn 8 bucks an hour why does she have a child? Where's her husband?


she decided she didnt want to marry a rapist

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3140 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:18:43 PM
Faith should drat a lot more and make more babys.
that way she could get more money from the goverment

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33911 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:15:37 PM

This is the future of America & Europe / Canada are next.
Get used to it.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5745 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:13:54 PM
If you hate Wal-Mart so much, don't shop there.

Well, perhaps there are many people who don't have much choice. Wal-Mart squeezes distributors, hence the low-low prices. If you don't make much money you can't afford to buy expensive items at other grocery stores, so beggars can't really be choosers. Principles kind of go out the window when your food budget is a substantial portion of your wage.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5167 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:12:50 PM
Andrew155

"I will say again: 7 billion divided by 2.2 million is slightly more than 3k. That's it. That's what's being complained about."

I will say again. Your reading comprehension sucks. Walmart made 15.4 billion in profit, not 7. They have 1.4 million US employees, not 2.2. That is assuming the stats in here are correct.

That is $11,000 per employee. If they make $8/hr then that is a 70% raise per employee. Now I am not saying they should do that, but at least read and do math if you want to argue.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:08:21 PM
McGovern1981

That doesn't even make sense, it's just randomly obnoxious.



You'll have to be more specific seeing that I have more than one post.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13611 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:05:48 PM
He was killed in Iraq fighting a war on a lie.



Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:04:55 PM
Wow HolyGod, everyone IS a victim to you. Or at least a potential victim. You live in a cesspool of victimhood. A sad place, that must be.

I will say again: 7 billion divided by 2.2 million is slightly more than 3k. That's it. That's what's being complained about.

Address the excess supply of unskilled labor and you will solve this problem.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 6116 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:04:55 PM
And Trutnerman- well, I am 50- and raised four children and a sick husband- not because I have no education, I have an excellent one, or because I don't work hard because I have frequently worked two or three jobs but because that was all I could get.... degree or no degree I needed a job so I took anything that paid. So stop being such a self satisfied ignorant twat.

LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4915 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:02:24 PM
McGovern1981

That doesn't even make sense, it's just randomly obnoxious.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 6116 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:01:34 PM
Well- this is the UK with tax credits. We have a minimum wage- but in many areas you cannot work full time and earn enough for both rent and living- let alone children. So- tax credits and rent benefits subsidise big business- not the low income.

HolyGod
Male, 30-39, Western US
 5167 Posts
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 12:00:01 PM
TruTenrMan

"I've been working since I turned 15."

As I recall you work manual labor right? So odds are you are one serious illness or injury away from being totally and completely f.ucked. Realistically, how many months of not being able to work would it take before you lost everything?

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