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Who's REALLY Getting Government Handouts? [Pic]

Hits: 12628 | Rating: (2.9) | Category: Community & Lifestyle | Added by: chalket
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MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:37:34 AM
Wayoldman-"It's called GREED!"

It's called PROFIT. PROFIT =/= GREED. Profit is the purpose of any business.

Wayoldman-"Walmart doesn't give a Crap."

Yeah, I guess that's why they gave over $958.9 million in cash and contributions around the world in 2011. And why it's associates volunteered more than 1 million hours htat resulted in over $13 million in grants to local non-profits.

The Bastards!!!

Wayoldman-"Glad your life was perfect."

You assume a lot. But then, most idiots do.

DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 1577 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:03:38 AM
It's pretty sicking to listen to all you bleeding hearts who think because somebody is conservative they've never suffered or had to struggle. You think we don't have compassion or feel for those less fortunate. We do feel but we also know that the solution to most poverty isn't taking from others. It's getting people who have a sound mind and body to get off their collective asses and make something of them selves. For society to expect great things from people...to expect great effort even if the reward is slow in coming. Effort has its own rewards. It makes one proud. If you're the 8 dollar employee be the best 8 dollar employee there and you won't be one for long. If your manager is looking for a reason to fire you I'll lay 10-1 odds it's because you're not doing a good job. Sitting around complaining about the evil wally world's business practices isn't going to solve anybody's problem.

Wayoldman
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 68 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:33:46 AM
It's called GREED! Walmart doesn't give a Crap. As for Union propaganda, obviously CrakrJak you had a sliver spoon in your mouth for years and never went hungry, had no insurance or medical problems. Glad your life was perfect.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:21:00 AM
normalfreak2-"How many BILLIONS does anyone really need?"

You don't get what you 'need'. You get what you 'earn'. (And do REALLY believe that all those billions are going under the Walton's mattresses?)

normalfreak2-"who needs that kind of money on hand?"

It's NOT 'on hand'. It's re-invested. It goes to investors. It WORKS.

Even it IS on pallets in a vault somewhere, it's none of your damn business. You didn't earn it, you're not entitled to it.

normalfreak2-"If we want to advance as a sopecies we will have to put aside greed and personal ambition."

Ah, the old 'we should evolve' B.S. Usually put for by people who want to confiscate that which other people have produced.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:20:05 AM
normalfreak2-"some of them shouldn't pay NOTHING back to society"

Walmart pays one of the highest corporate tax rates in the country. Are you saying that's 'nothing'?

normalfreak2-"There's a DISTINCT advantage to being wealthy than poor"

Gee, is THAT why everone wants to be rich? And here I thought I fought my way from poor to comfortable for the free mints.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17160 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:04:58 AM
The unions say Walmart's average wage is $8.81, Walmart CEO says it's $12.57. Seeing as how both are likely wrong, the average is probably in the middle, around $10/hr. Having deftly asked that question of 6 local Walmart employees, that I know, $10/hr. appears to be correct.

That's $20,800 a year (full-time) which is $5,670 over the poverty line for a two person household. That's a better wage than most managers at McDonalds or Taco Bell get.

So I'm going to chalk this chart up to a bunch of unionist propaganda, because the people I've talked with are glad to be working there.

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1862 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 9:01:51 AM
"In real life, you don't get a trophy just for showing up."

While some people DO contribute more, this line of thinking is arcahic. If we want to advance as a sopecies we will have to put aside greed and personal ambition. I think you are on the wrong end of evolution that or the human race is destined to go extinct.

normalfreak2
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1862 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:58:53 AM
@Mcgrendel

"It's not a zero-sum game. The 'Rich' did not become rich by taking from the middle class or the poor. Many times they became rich by creating money, and jobs and opportunity for others. "

No, but some of them shouldn't pay NOTHING back to society. A lot of the wealthy are wouldn't you know it, come from wealth. There's a DISTINCT advantage to being wealthy than poor, it's much easier for someone who has all their needs and wants covered. There's always the feel good story of someone who came from nothing and came out ahead but it's just like winning the lottery.

Let's be honest too here folks. How many BILLIONS does anyone really need? Do you really need tens of billions for RnD and to just sit around?

If I can find it a billion dollars would fits on 8 standard military size iso pallets. who needs that kind of money on hand? Honestly who needs 100 of those just lying around. There's being rich and there's being greed

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:49:40 AM
TuckFarted-"Everybody who participates in ANY way is important to society"

Not really. The Old Participation Trophy theory.

Some participation is worth more.
Some participation has a negative effect.

In real life, you don't get a trophy just for showing up.

Liquidglass
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 1119 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:19:18 AM
@SarahofBorg

When you are successful then you can speak with authority on what people in that position deserve. Until then you're speculating from the other end of the spectrum. That's like trying to describe the colors in a coloring book across a football field.

TuckFarted
Female, 18-29, Europe
 87 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:13:14 AM
I love people that rag on unskilled workers, yet if everybody had a skill would that benefit employment? Because we need billions of brain surgeons and nobody to work a register at Walmart right?

Everybody who participates in ANY way is important to society, and should get rewarded if they work hard enough.
In this case the corporate greed is ridiculous, there's a thin line between being business savvy and just being a greedy mean person..they crossed it. But obviously so many do..and nobody will really stop shopping at these places to make a stand, so nothing will change.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:25:50 AM
madduck-" by claiming the figures are wrong, the information incorrect etc"

The figures are not wrong. The bit about the government subsidizing Walmart is bull.

madduck-"This is doing exactly that- but by a sneaky tactic."

Please quit making that erroneous claim. Public assistance in no way 'subsidizes' Walmart. Walmart will pay a stock person the same if they get assistance, or if they don't, or if they have another job or if it's a 16 year old working after school.

madduck-"If your company does not make enough money to pay your employees a living wage"

Please write this on your forehead so that you might one day understand: "Not all jobs are designed to provide a living wage. There is no requirement that they do so."

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4639 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:20:20 AM
SarahofBorg-" Who are you to decide what profit Faith deserves?"

I'm not deciding. What she 'deserves' is decided by herself, her employer and the market. (I realize that's a hard concept for you)

SarahofBorg-"because Faith is so replaceable that she deserves to earn less?"

No, I'm saying that because she is so replaceable, the market has decided she does not earn a living wage. (in a job that was not designed to generate a living wage)

SarahofBorg-"Than where can she go where she can get more?"

Better her marketable job skills, find a better job. That's the way it's done.

SarahofBorg-"I'm forming an opinion based on the facts presented."

No, you're forming an opinion on emotions based on biased facts presented under false logic.

SarahofBorg-" nobody is going to be convinced of anything no matter what I say"

Because what you say has no basis in reality.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:13:13 AM
If your company does not make enough money to pay your employees a living wage then the business model is wrong... they know full well that the government will step in

If this is the argument, then perhaps we should look at the entir problem. There is a key component that allows this cycle to perpetuate: government aid.

If we take away government aid, then the workers will not be able to work at Walmart because it will not pay the bills. Thus, Walmart will begin losing emmployees; the ultimate result of this is that Walmart either raises their wages or closes down.

We focus so much on how evil business is and how to force business to behave that we neglect our responsibility to consider the failures of government mixing with economics. Perhaps we should consider the entire spectrum of issues, and discuss how government has enabled Walmart to behave this way.

Saunder
Male, 30-39, Europe
 178 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:01:17 AM
So you're saying that the 'ordinary' person is being screwed by big business? You don't say! Capitalism is such an utterly failed experiment. Thank God we're all stupid enough not to see that über-obvious fact. Come one guys, seriously.

Bakcagain21
Male, 18-29, Europe
 553 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 7:00:24 AM
Walmart wouldn't be able to employ as many people a they did or earn as much money or provide as many products this cheaply if they followed the mantra being proposed about wages from the beginning. You are an unskilled worker or unable to get a skilled job sorry I can pay you or the next guy the same amount of money. Want higher wages have to show something special for it. That profit is going in expanding Walmart investing in new products running the business seeing off competition keeping the business afloat.

Also how much of their profit is made overseas? How much comes from companies like ASDA (walmart uk)Do foreign workers deserve equal wages aswell? See how much profit they have left over then...

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5792 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:41:21 AM
The point I am trying to make is that his is not country or company specific. if any company went, cap in hand to the government and said that their profits were not what they wanted and their shareholders would get a lower dividend this and every other year so could they please have a few million quid to dish out to those shareholders, there would be an out cry. This is doing exactly that- but by a sneaky tactic. If your company does not make enough money to pay your employees a living wage then the business model is wrong- your shareholders too greedy or some such- this applies to numerous companies- full time employees who work FULL time do not earn enough to live on- so what do the companies expect- their workers to wother live in the gutter or to go hungey? No- they know full well that the government will step in...

banur
Male, 18-29, Europe
 250 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:16:48 AM
Turns out shelf stacking doesn't require much skill and therefore shouldn't pay as much as something like managing the store.
However learning the ropes can get you into that position.

banur
Male, 18-29, Europe
 250 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 6:15:46 AM
SarahofBorg: "Ask ANY Walmart employee if they would leave for another job that pays more. I dare you to find one that would stay. That's true of ANY business."

And people should go to the business that pays more, but any business which pays more than the employee is worth, is stupid.

"And look, I didn't write the factoid that Walmart could take a profit-cut. I'm forming an opinion based on the facts presented. You claim they can't take a profit-cut despite constant-increasing profits based on zero facts."

So what? Everyone can draw an 'inforgraphic' that means jack. That won't make any of the presented words into facts if the logic fails on all ends.
If people think that they are worth more than their current paycheck, they are free to leave and any company wouldn't hesitate to pay them more to keep them if it were true.

Turns out shelf stacking doesn't require much skill and therefore shouldn't pay as much as something like

andybme
Male, 50-59, Western US
 296 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:06:27 AM
but but their going to hire veterans

Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
 506 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:47:07 AM
Best example in the UK is John Lewis where all staff are shareholders - gets staff to work harder, stay longer, and they get share of any rewards. Walmart I am guessing would never embrace that.

Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
 506 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 3:43:57 AM
I am generally pro living wage but have one thought: If Walmart had a slump and started to make a loss should faith or people like her find the money to prop up its trading in the hope it turns around? Should they borrow money to give to the company when it wants to expand? Maybe even if you want to be part of that side of things get an online trading account and invest (few dollars will do) - you get rewards for investing in things when they work, but you loose money when it goes the other way.

Nickel2
Male, 50-59, Europe
 4618 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 2:04:10 AM
C'mon fancy, no mention of racism here?

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:40:14 AM
It turns out that inflation is a major cause of people being poor. Wages don't keep up with how quickly they are being devalued. My numbers say the dollar was devalued 35% 1984 and 2002. You don't think that hurts people? And it was devalued a further 40% between 2002 and now.

The Federal Reserve is deliberately destroying the value of the dollar to squeeze out economic growth. It is becoming worthless. And with policies like Quantitative Easing literally engineered to help the rich, the poor become poorer. You think rich people are making people poorer, think again. Think critically. It's the Federal Reserve.

Also, a huge supply of unskilled labor contributes. Now, you say, why don't we just pay the unskilled people more. There's a lot of rich people money out there, isn't there? No, there really isn't when you want to divide it evenly to everyone. Labor is priced at what it's worth, generally, and efforts to fight that are usually thwarted by market forces.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:32:56 AM
madduck, the numbers here says Walmart has 7 billion in profits. Walmart has 2.2 million employees. If you distribute it evenly, leaving zero for the company owners and shareholders, then the workers each get about 3k. That's what you're arguing about.

I don't even think you know what you're saying when you say trickle down economics. Bush was Keynesian. Never forget. Spending orgies, embraced the welfare state, bailouts, fracked with interest rates, printed money.

http://business.time.com/2008/01/18/turns_out_george_bush_is_a_key/

Tell me, what's your solution to this problem? Force Walmart to give more? Force Walmart out of existence? The problem with your perception is that you think Walmart's existence makes people poor and that, without Walmart, people would be much better of financially.

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