 LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
 2401 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 4:07:12 PM
I explained myself badly. Circumcison is, in my opinion, usually wrong because an intrusive procedure, a cutting of flesh, a change to the body must always require either informed consent or a pressing medical need.
Apparently the large majority of American parents (and physicians?) think that the health/hygene benefits justify the procedure. I don't agree but there is evidence on both sides. That's being wrong, not being an idiot.
Religion, c'mon. It would be nice if you allowed the kid to grow up and decide for themselves before cutting your religion into them but we have to respect belief. Seriously, that's how it is. The fix is in. Belief trumps common humanity.
But this tattoo, we can all have a go at that.
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 InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
329 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 3:00:18 PM
^can^can't |
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InTheNameOf
Male, 30-39, Western US
329 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 2:59:31 PM
LordJim:
Circumcision is IMO worse than baby tattoos. It hurts more, has more and more serious complications, mutilates the sex organ and removes a part that can not be put back (a tattoo can mostly be removed), etc... Also, it is often performed by trained medical professionals - so they can even excuse themselves due to ignorance. |
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 Gauddith
Female, 18-29, Western US
107 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 1:59:45 PM
I want this to result in an arrest. Absolutely no excuse for this. |
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 malikymoo
Female, 18-29, Europe
1945 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 1:01:49 PM
ok. it doesnt hurt that much. but no this is bad. why would she do that? |
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 bedbugsbite
Female, 18-29, Canada
39 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 12:46:57 PM
Personally, I'm not a fan of piercing a baby's ear either. Causing your child pain for a fashion statement that YOU want them to make is just ridiculous (acceptable, but still ridiculous). Tattooing them is beyond ridiculous or acceptable. I'm with Jacob on the circumcision issue. Unnecessary and painful body mod forced on an infant for any reasons is immoral to me. |
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 McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10187 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 12:24:57 PM
This also means Oprah has literally rubbed hundreds if not thousands of dicks on her face!!! ROFL!! |
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 JacobTrue13
Male, 18-29, Europe
239 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 12:12:49 PM
LordJim...
"Circumcision is a bad comparison; most people have it done because they believe it has health benefits (debatable but a valid reason)..."
Nope. Even if there were provable benefits (which as you say, is debatable), that wouldn't justify circumcision. In no other area of medicine do we forcibly remove healthy body parts from infants to guard against ailments that won't even be an issue until at least over a decade later in the individual's life when other readily available methods (i.e. condoms), are provably more effective at stopping disease.
"...or for religious purposes (not a valid reason in my opinion, but it's a complicated issue.)"
It's not complicated at all. Not in the the slightest. Forcible removal of body parts for religious reasons is *immoral*.
At the end of the day, both involve non-consensual, painful alteration of an individual's body. I know I'm probably coming off as harsh and standoffish, b |
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 chicagojay
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
850 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 12:09:53 PM
This tat takes way longer than circumcision and is more painful. The area is anesthetized with the ol' snipperooni. Have you seen one done? Not by the National Health, a real one. |
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 Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25554 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 12:04:51 PM
LOL @ McG - she does ya know! lol |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10187 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 11:48:58 AM
Also yes Oprah gets her dark powers from rubbing baby foreskin cream onto her face!!!
You can't make this crap up for real!!! |
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McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
10187 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 11:37:38 AM
Now now americans. I hope you arent complaining about this. After all, you are the country that cuts the skin off newborn penises for no reason whatsoever.
Looks at Mr. Whinkey HMMMM well that's news to me. SO now only Americans do that I'm sure a place like ummm Israel would never do that.....LOL!! |
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LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
2401 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 11:23:39 AM
Most parents want their kids to have better life chances than they did. This one, not so much.
Circumcision is a bad comparison; most people have it done because they believe it has health benefits (debatable but a valid reason) or for religious purposes (not a valid reason in my opinion, but it's a complicated issue.)
This is neither valid nor complicated; it's abuse. |
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 SminkyPinky
Female, 30-39, Europe
148 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 11:22:37 AM
has nobody considered the fact that there could be a valid reason for this? hell no not fashion. for instance, a pair of twins who need medical care are often marked in this way (albeit on the feet generally), or he could have a rare blood type, or perhaps a medical problem requiring a medalart bracelet but the mom knows that being a toddler, he'll lose it or get strangled... don't judge until the full story is revealed.
and I am completely against fashion tattooing for anyone not old enough to decide on it themselves, and circumcision for the same. |
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 fancythat
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
1393 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 11:08:17 AM
hey tedgp,
Now, now, Europeans... We also bathe daily so as to leave your perfume stench to the French. Isn't there an I-A-B site just for Europeans? Can you go there and wait by yourself? |
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 lt633c
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
127 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 10:55:19 AM
Baseball bat to the head for all of them.
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 chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
1473 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 10:14:27 AM
Hey, when you steal a kid it's always smart to tat your brand on it. |
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Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
25554 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 10:09:09 AM
tedgp, "Now now americans. I hope you arent complaining about this. After all, you are the country that cuts the skin off newborn penises for no reason whatsoever."
That's not true. We have a reason. We make face cream out of it.
Timely dude, I just submitted a story about this very topic. |
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tedgp
Male, 30-39, Europe
2923 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 10:02:21 AM
Now now americans. I hope you arent complaining about this. After all, you are the country that cuts the skin off newborn penises for no reason whatsoever. |
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 whirlygirl
Female, 30-39, Canada
90 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 9:54:13 AM
Wow, this is almost as bad as parents mutilating the penises of their newborn babies. |
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LordJim
Male, 50-59, Europe
2401 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 9:45:57 AM
Criminal offence in the UK, 18 is the minimum legal age. |
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 sutra46
Female, 40-49, Asia
1997 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 9:19:20 AM
Tribal tats on kids |
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sutra46
Female, 40-49, Asia
1997 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 9:14:27 AM
They used to do this as a ritual in some lower classes/casts in India.
The tats were tribal and were 'small' mono coloured ( green) sometime on the face!
Don't know if this young though.
Poor baby  |
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 Rizzo71
Male, 40-49, Europe
184 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 9:13:05 AM
Scum. Will someone please punish them with glowing rods and record it. That would be worth seeing. |
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 Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
480 Posts
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Monday, January 28, 2013 8:47:55 AM
If you ever were in doubt that some people need their children taking away from them. |
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