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Misleading Anti-Gun Article In Chicago Trib [Pic]

Hits: 12138 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: whodat6484
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5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25272 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:14:37 PM
@FoolsPrussia: As @botfly has wisely pointed out: It's a "disinformation campaign". Plain and simple.

"OMG! You can put a BAYONET on it? That makes it a LETHAL WEAPON!"
>Like a rifle isn't "lethal" without a knife stuck on it?
>Like you can't stick a bayonet on countless other kinds of guns?
>Like they even bothered to point to the CORRECT part of the AR-15?

It's designed to scare people. In the name of "current White House orders". That's NOT what "journalists" are supposed to do.

It's not "a conspiracy" it's right there: naked and exposed... (just like fine rock & roll!)

Sorry, Blue Oyster Cult crept in there...

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3398 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:14:22 PM
Mistakes are made from time to time in journalism. This is just an illustration, so for all you know the article itself was well-researched, but the illustrator made the mistake and the picture editor didn't catch it.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:51:25 PM
as far as i know you need a rather hard to get license for a proper grenade launcher in the US as it is considered a destructive device. however you can get 37mm flare launchers that look like a grenade launcher on first glance from my knowledge.
as to bayonets, it turns your rifle into a pointy stick when you get down to it. also firing a rifle with one mounted unless you specifically set your sights with it on there throws off the balance and aim.
as to why this is a topic for discussion: people dragging on about a topic without knowing what they´re actually talking about, especially those in mass media. tends to give false impressions and misinform people doesn't it?

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3398 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 4:18:42 PM
Ok, so the gist of the comments I've read are that you can mount a bayonet or a grenade launcher to this type of rifle, just not in the spot they indicated in the illustration. And this is a huge discussion, why?

botfly
Male, 50-59, Eastern US
 616 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:46:19 PM
"Who the drat cares about this, other than a conspiracy nut?"

It's called disinformation, look it up douchebag.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4525 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:40:07 PM
Gerry1of1:-"What is misleading?"




Also, the way it's worded they seem to be saying that the same 'bayonet mount' can be used for a grenade launcher'.

So they are not only ignorant of firearms, but of proper writing and reporting (which, of course, is not only not required of modern 'journalist', but actively held in contempt).

Runemang
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 2543 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:37:13 PM
@ skypirate's posted pic:

Whoa. Thanks for the flashback. M203! *PHOOMP!*

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3693 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:27:35 PM
@Gerry1of1 - My caption is not misleading at all. They circled and highlighted the sling swivel in the picture say that is where you can mount a bayonet or grenade launcher. The bayonet lug is the piece that's in front of the sling swivel (circled) and can't be mounted on the sling swivel. A grenade launcher (M203) is mounted on the rifle as seen in skypirate's picture.

neojester12
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 156 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:03:21 PM
Who the drat cares about this, other than a conspiracy nut?

skypirate
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2059 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:58:31 PM
@gerry

plus you see how the bayonet lug and sling swivel are completely unnecessary for such an attachment




oh, and this particular upper is for sale to the general public

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:42:33 PM

What is misleading? It says a grenade laucher can be attached, but it's illegal to use one. How is that misleading?

The only thing misleading in this is your caption.

Tiredofnicks
Male, 30-39, Europe
 4843 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:42:19 PM
Yeah, that's plain bad journalism. Oh wait, I forgot.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3693 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:30:04 PM
@technophebe - Explain how you think everyone who doesn't have a problem with owning guns, likes to go out for target practice occasionally or hunt is automatically a "gun nut." All too often, when dumbasses such as yourself make comments that are not backed up with facts and you're proven wrong, you immediately resort to saying, "whatever, you guys are gun nuts... blah blah blah..." thinking that will somehow make your argument sound logical and intelligent. This is how I picture you sitting in front of your computer...


lungcancerz
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 39 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:11:04 PM
@technopebe no guns are not the leading cause. people are, and parts of the people are the leading weapon. that means hands and feet. next would be blunt objects like baseball bats and frying pans. don't forget running someone down with a car. that kills more people than guns, knives, hands, feet etc. people kill people and the only way to stop that is stop making people. so would you please voluntarily castrate yourself to prevent violence

technophebe
Male, 30-39, Europe
 25 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 2:05:55 PM
It's so funny how easy you gun nuts are to rile up.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13373 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:48:01 PM
Ever ask why they left out all the detail of the Texas college shooting recently? Like the reason for it, the leagality of the gun and what kind of gun was used? The details will tell you why.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4525 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:24:43 PM
technophebe-"Yes yes, let's poke fun at an irrelevant article in a local newspaper"

Nope, let's poke fun at and ridicule the obvious ignorance of a group of people who are obviously ignorant about that which they want to ban.

They are not only totally ignorant on guns, they REVEL in that ignorance.

And, I notice when sane people point out your ignorance and/or lies and/or inaccuracies, you always claim 'it's irrelevent'.

Yes, 'Facts' ARE irrelevent to your arguments.

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3693 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:20:29 PM
One of the best quotes I've heard recently about stricter gun control is, "It's the same thing as trying to stop drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to buy cars."

skypirate
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2059 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:18:20 PM
thats it, we need to ban spears. good thing those grenades are already banned.

rather than acknowledge the pile of dead children.

the ones who died of starvation, genocide or car accidents?


wzntme1776
Male, 40-49, Western US
 27 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:15:33 PM
why do people think that banning guns means criminals wont have guns? Heroine is illegal...howd that work out for us? Crack? All banning guns does is take them out of the hands of responsible people and leaves them in the hands of criminals.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13373 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:13:15 PM

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13373 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:12:25 PM
The kid had 4 handguns on him and the AR-15 was, in fact, never taken into the school, it was in the car.


Which is what was initally reported but changed over to the rifle hmmmmm wonder why.....

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25272 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 1:11:37 PM
"Real Journalists" don't allow things like "facts" to ruin a story! If it fits the "message" then it must be true!

Wait, wasn't Romney castigated for talking about "bayonets"? Even though, you know, EVERY ARMY ON EARTH still uses them?

whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 3693 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:58:23 PM
@technophebe - You're missing the point, dumbass. The point is that the most vocal anti-gun people are screaming to have firearms banned that they know little or nothing about.

Keep an eye out for another post that will be coming soon because new information was just released about the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting. The kid had 4 handguns on him and the AR-15 was, in fact, never taken into the school, it was in the car. That, and a few days prior to the shooting the kid tried to buy a rifle at a sporting goods store and was denied because he failed the background check.

technophebe
Male, 30-39, Europe
 25 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 12:49:53 PM
Yes yes, let's poke fun at an irrelevant article in a local newspaper, rather than acknowledge the pile of dead children.

Hey, how about we talk about a liberal conspiracy? Ooh, and we can chant slogans like "se-cond 'mend-ment" and "gommint gon' take our guns!"

Who cares if guns are the leading cause of murders and suicides? Most of the people who die are poor people. I'm not one of them, and I like to shoot, so guns are great!

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