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Gun Rights Blowout

Hits: 7696 | Rating: (3.0) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5684 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:55:50 AM
Of course mental patients and convicts shouldn't own guns

And why is that exactly? Why should someone who was, say, never held a gun and was convicted of marijuana possession, then paid his debt to society and was released *not* be allowed to own a gun? They are in no way any less safe with guns than you, yet their rights are infringed? My point is that violation of your rights is based on arbitrary reasons, and there is no logical argument that says those reasons cannot be extended or restricted. I could argue that someone who owns 50 guns is a danger to the community, either by himself or with the possibility of others taking the guns and using them without his permission. Also, just because someone is mentally ill doesn't mean they are a danger; the vast majority of those with mental illness are harmless, so why "punish" them?

lovepath7
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 41 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:54:02 AM
Bill O'Reilly has the anti-Midas touch: He puts the stench and coating of pseudo-intellectual Spartan on everything he touches.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16740 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:45:57 AM
patchgrabber: Strictly speaking the 2nd Amendment doesn't make a distinction in regards to mental health or prior convictions.

You have to remember that the patriots that defended us in the revolutionary war were 'criminals' according to the king of England, and many loyalists thought they were crazy as well.

However we are 200 years separated from those times and we have made more than enough infringements to our essential liberty in the name of safety, in regards to owning guns.

Of course mental patients and convicts shouldn't own guns, but now the president and individual governors are pressing for measures that are idiotic and endanger not only our liberty, but our safety as well.

Musuko42
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2804 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:39:55 AM
@5Cats

"3D-printing not only can currently make working 30-round magazines, it will soon be able to make working GUNS!"

Putting the gun debate aside for just a second to say: can you imagine what the anti-piracy ads will be like once that becomes an affordable norm for the average person? :P

antagonizer
Male, 18-29, Canada
 506 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 8:00:52 AM
Isn't O'reilly a serious adversary of government spending? Suggesting that wasting taxpayer money following every person who makes a gun purchase is a bit of a flip flop isn't it?

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:57:37 AM
I think if it were so easy for twerrorists to get bazookas, we'd see more bazooka twerrorism.



Draculya
Male, 40-49, Asia
 11522 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:38:26 AM
You know my position on this topic, however: I think if it were so easy for twerrorists to get bazookas, we'd see more bazooka twerrorism.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:34:37 AM
Ya that about sums up the pro control argument....

RdDan
Male, 30-39, Europe
 760 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:41:24 AM
McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut, McGovern is a gun nut,

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4186 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:34:27 AM
I don't know about what gun-shows he's been to, but every time I've purchased a firearm from a dealer at a gunshow I had to pass a background check.

The ONLY time I've purchased a gun without a background check is when it was a purchase from a private citizen (which you'll never be able to regulate).

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13145 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:13:56 AM
@CreamK

Shells can be reloaded. Your laws show what happens when you let people who no nothing about firearms dictate other peoples lives. Every shooter I know buys ammo in large quantities at least 500 to 1,00 rounds because it saves money.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5684 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:05:19 AM
Law abiding citizens should be allowed to own guns.

...unless you have a mental illness or are an ex-convict, then it's completely legit to deny them their God-given right to bear arms, isn't it?

CreamK
Male, 40-49, Europe
 942 Posts
Wednesday, January 23, 2013 5:09:47 AM
It's part of gun license here, your ammo is part of the license and you can get ammo only for your particular gun and not in huge amount either without a special reason. You'll get fines and possible jailtime if you have un-accounted ammo, just a single bullet will do (some have souvenirs and such, it doesn't matter if it's empty or loaded casing, any part of ammunition is regarded as illegal with out a proper license). It's almost as bad as illegal weapon..

Don't remember what comedian it was (Chris Rock, possibly?) that said that ammo should cost 100$ per round.. Let's see how many drivebys you can the do? Did i mention we don't fear break-ins or gun related crimes here even when we have one of the highest gun ownership rates in Europe? Reason: our guns are for hunting or target practice

No handguns, no concealed licenses which both have but one target:a human. You can't get a gun unless you register to shooting range or hunting team.. You know, a responsible and m

OldOllie
Male, 60-69, Midwest US
 12984 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 11:18:30 PM
The ignorance is strong in this one.

cheeseb
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 216 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 9:04:21 PM
M: I came here for a good argument.
A: No you didn't; no, you came here for an argument.
M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
A: It can be.
M: No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition.
A: No it isn't.
M: Yes it is! It's not just contradiction.
A: Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
M: Yes, but that's not just saying 'No it isn't.'
A: Yes it is!
M: No it isn't!
A: Yes it is!
M: Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.
A: No it isn't.
M: It is.

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1684 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 8:24:59 PM
Oreilly is a dumb ass. You know how many people I know have a lot of ammo? A lot, at least 2 dozen! All law abiding citizens. He wants an FBI agent to follow up with each of them? That is absurd and a waste of resources.

Magickrat
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
 431 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:43:26 PM
As far as I'm concerned, Bill O'Rielly is the New York Yankees of media. Whomever is against him is the one I root for. This guy is a weak little man who can't deal with it when he's wrong...

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16740 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 7:08:08 PM
O'Reilly is completely misinformed on this point.

You can't legally buy a fully automatic AK-47 in America without a special Federal Permit, and those permits are not easy, or cheap, to get.

hi2pi
Male, 30-39, Canada
 738 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:47:06 PM
Bill yells when he's being shown up. He's a bully.

McThstlpnts
Female, 18-29, Southern US
 1494 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 6:38:45 PM
I am so sick of the gun debate...I just don't care anymore either way...

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 24198 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 5:05:34 PM
An "AK-47" is NOT "heavy armament" ffs! It's just a gun! There's TONS of more powerful guns out there.

Wait, where's all the IAB-Lib-Tards complaining that Fox is "ultra-right"?? Eh? (I see a couple of them admitting that B.O'Reilly has a point, lolz! In this case it's his pointed head...)

@bex753: Yes! 3D-printing not only can currently make working 30-round magazines, it will soon be able to make working GUNS!
The cat is out of the bag! "Banning" magazines is utterly a waste of time & money. It's like banning photocopiers, good luck with that!

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3397 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:51:44 PM
I submitted a Jon Stewart explanation of the gun laws last week, but it hasn't been posted yet. He does a really good job of explaining why the gun laws need to be fixed. Watch it here and here.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33895 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:49:06 PM

Fun watching 2 idiots argue with each other.
Bill O'Tool

mykunter
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 2220 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:47:57 PM
So, Bill is saying that a purchase of 60,000 rounds should be reported? OK, where is the line drawn? 1,000 rounds? I then make 60 seperate purchases... Useless idea, Bill, but thanks for playing!

I know! File a report on every single round of ammunition sold! Good luck...

RytWing
Male, 30-39, Western US
 315 Posts
Tuesday, January 22, 2013 4:36:52 PM
@holygod

It's not a good idea for everyone to have a gun. Law abiding citizens should be allowed to own guns. Law abiding citizens, by definition, obey laws. If you outlaw guns then the only people with guns will be criminals because they don't, by definition, obey laws. Criminals tend to run rough shot over others when left unchecked. The citizens right to own guns is his safe guard against those that would other wise do him harm.

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