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Thorium Reactors Explained In 5 minutes

Hits: 7292 | Rating: (3.4) | Category: Science | Added by: CrakrJak
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CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16908 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:15:54 PM
Angilion: What is very good about Thorium power is that the reactors can be made small, Small enough to fit on a tractor trailer. This would make it so that even small communities could buy their own power station and be independent of the grid. They could even sell the excess, thus lowering their citizens power bills.

The effect that would have would be better than any TIF zone, as low power costs would be an economic incentive to industry.

So you can see that a Thorium reactor is not only more eco-friendly, it would be an economic windfall for those communities that would get on board and build one. And that's not even taking into account the co-generation capabilities discussed in this video.

klaxor
Male, 18-29, Western US
 647 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 10:49:12 PM
"We will never run out" - On behalf of incessant human consumption and waste - "Challenge accepted"

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11275 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:22:23 PM
Hmm...maybe I am being a bit harsh. Wave and tidal power in the UK is probably more viable than I implied because it's almost reliable (the sea is always moving) and quite controllable if it's done right (since kinetic energy is being used directly to generate electricity, you could turn sections off by disconnecting the generation and just allowing the sections to move, doing nothing). Also, you could theoretically do it with less than half of the coastline, especially if you were willing to permanently close major shipping lanes.

But it would still be very far from free.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11275 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:14:44 PM
Or, at least on paper, CSP in hot deserts, a worldwide very sophisticated HVDC grid and a worldwide agreement to share the power generated.

Well, yeah. Like that's feasible any time soon, if ever. May as well advocate matter/antimatter power stations.

There's scope for renewables where appropriate, but it's extremely difficult if not impossible to make them a significant part of any power generation system unless mass storage of electricity becomes possible (i.e. so you can overgenerate when possible and store it for when you can't generate enough).

For example, it's theoretically possible to power the USA by turning most of the Mojave desert into a power station and it's theoretically possible to power the UK by turning most of the sea just offshore into a power station.

*Theoretically*. And it would be very, very far from free.

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11275 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:07:36 PM
CSP is appropriate in some areas, if you back it with a cutting edge HVDC grid (which is very far indeed from free) and you retain a large *controllable* generating capacity to maintain constant matching of supply to demand.

Unless someone comes up with an efficient way to store GWhs of electricity, renewables can't be the main generating method, let alone the only one, even if we're willing to eat the cost and environmental impact.

Free? My arse.

I think fusion should be the future of energy production, not a different fuel for fission. Maybe thorium as a stopgap until fusion is viable, but not as the future.

What is need above all is reliability and controllability. Very few renewables can offer that, and then only in limited areas, e.g. geothermal in Norway.

CSP could have a role to play, too, since on paper it could be cheap (but it isn't now).

Angilion
Male, 40-49, Europe
 11275 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 8:58:57 PM
The idea of free energy isn't so hard to understand


It is, however, impossible to implement with current technology or anything close to it.

You talk about wind, solar and magnetic.

Wind, near ground level: Bloody expensive in both resources and environmental impact. Uncontrollable and therefore useless for any significant percentage of generation.

Wind, high altitude: Can't be done yet, even more expensive, innately dangerous, requires huge no-fly zones.

Solar, PV: So expensive in resources and environmental impact that it's not even possible to do on a significant scale. Uncontrollable.

Solar, CSP: Technically feasible, but more expensive than fossil fuels and requires vast areas, destroying ecosystems. And, of course, uncontrollable.

Magnetic: I don't what you're referring to, so I can't comment on that one.

Quackor
Male, 18-29, S. America
 2864 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 7:47:46 PM
oh sure, he seems to know what he is talking about, lol what a loser

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16908 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:53:11 PM
Gauddith: Wind and solar energy are anything but 'free' the upfront installation and maintenance costs are more than a coal fired power plant. Only nuclear power can beat cost to energy ratio of coal.

Gauddith
Female, 18-29, Western US
 224 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:44:47 PM
I love how we still ignore the self sustaining energy. We're talking wing, solar, and magnetic. These are what we should be studying and developing into wide spred sources for people. I truly hope we can squash the idea of energy as a commodity. The idea of free energy isn't so hard to understand, and I wish we spent more resources on those sorts of things.

chalket
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2481 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:22:20 PM
I still wonder why this technology isn't getting more attention. If youd like to learn more.

randomxnp
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1194 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:54:35 PM
Research on this has never been well-funded because groups funded by the KGB spread panic about anything with "nuclear" in it with the help of left-wing useful idiots. The purpose was to oppose western economic and military development. Useful idiots included many members of Greenpeace and FOI, and the many people from the KGB-funded CND are now in the "environmental" movement that is now destroying the economy at great cost to the environment.

sutra46
Female, 40-49, Asia
 2460 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:17:24 PM
Sounds good, if there is no Uranium reactor then private company can run it. What's stopping him?

BlankTom
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 6560 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:02:00 PM
this video gave me an aural seizure

Mantistador
Male, 18-29, Western US
 2207 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:41:48 PM
so stop talking and start sciencing...

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:22:32 PM
Racist.

drips
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 879 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:14:04 PM
Why not take a little more time and watch the full TEDtalk? Weird choice in editing another's video.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 16908 Posts
Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:02:45 PM
Link: Thorium Reactors Explained In 5 minutes [Rate Link] - This should be the future of energy production

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