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 darkmagic14n
Male, 18-29, Western US
 1634 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:05:06 PM
and all those auto accidents, as well as all drunk driving incidences and traffic in general, could be eliminated with the introduction of autonomous cars.
seriously, it would be no different than when they forced everyone to have an HD tuner for their TVs, GPS units are now cheap enough that they could be had for <$50, add in the necessary 4-6 sensors all around the car, we're looking at <$100 for all the necessities to automate driving. |
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 nac007
Male, 18-29, Southern US
11 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:48:43 PM
@10Bears
Really? What train of 'logic' leads you to that conclusion? Sure, IF you could make all guns disappear, there would be no deaths due to firearms. Do you believe that there would be no additional deaths by other means as a result?
What you could have said is:
"Nice graphic. It shows clearly that if there were no guns, there would be nearly 7,000 less gun related deaths."
Sorry to beat this to death, but I occasionally promote logical and factual statements. I usually restrain from correcting others in this regard, as it ultimately seems pointless. But hey, I prefer it to being a 'grammar Nazi'.
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 avail9988
Male, 18-29, Australia
633 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:41:14 PM
We should ban cars |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17474 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:36:04 PM
@ultimakewl: Martin Luther King was an AVID gun owner. His home was "like an arsenal". I'm sure they were for safety & protection, after all there WERE nuts trying to kill him, but HE owned LOTS of guns, loaded, in the house.
@korhan: Don't forget Dungeons & Dragons! The Three Stooges movies...
@10Bears: Look at the Wiki list of murders per capita, then get back to us. Like I said: in Rwanda, they used machettes quite a lot. |
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 10Bears
Male, 30-39, Europe
268 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:04:11 PM
Nice graphic. It shows clearly that if there were no guns, there would be nearly 7,000 less deaths. |
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ultimakewl
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
669 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:00:26 PM
@Ston
tell that to ghandi and martin luther king |
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 korahn
Male, 18-29, Canada
873 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 3:00:07 PM
They forgot to add video games to the list because, everyone knows, video games are the reason behind every killing. |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17474 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:37:40 PM
Data Source = FBI
That site is a treasure trove of information!
Rwandan Genocide upwards of 500,000 people killed, about half with machettes...
@Azerphel: nice try, but if you can tell me the difference between an "offensive pistol" and a defensive one? That'd be new!
Welcome to IAB, eh?
@Markus2: Biased? It's a sarcastic political cartoon, not Encyclopaedia Britannica, ffs...
@Dead-Kittens: Those people you want to prevent from having firearms? They're NOT the ones who'll obey a gun-ban, OK? The people we DO want having them will have THEIR rights infringed.
Get to the back of the bus Rosa Parks! (/sarc) |
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 malikymoo
Female, 18-29, Europe
1951 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:36:47 PM
id still rather get stabbed than shot. drat me |
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 Dead-Kittens
Male, 30-39, Canada
869 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:11:33 PM
The intent and function of my car is to get to work,knifeto cook my dinner, hammer build a shed...etc a gun is designed to 'shoot holes in paper because its fun' as my gun nut buddy puts it? its a tool just like the rest and its function is death..lets not be stupid here.
The main problem with gun control whether it be a sport rifle/assault rifle/personal side arm is the potential for collateral damage in any bad situation requiring the use of such a tool...I know far too many people that I would deem too irresponsible to own let alone carry. At very least 'some' people are just too damn irresponsible/irrational to have free and open access to firearms...
side note: I also much prefer cops using tazers over guns. |
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 Ston
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
196 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:11:20 PM
Azerphel. You can't win with morals, conviction, and integrity alone. You also need weapons and body armor.
You can be a moral victor and still take a bullet to the chest.
There's no difference between an offensive weapon and a defensive weapon. There's also a difference between the "military style" weapon and assault rifles, which are ALREADY banned in the US. The AR-15, which is what most people see when pictures are shown, is visually identical to the military model with burst/auto. But it's single shot only. So it all depends on how fast you can pull the trigger, which is still fast enough for people to scream "machine gun". |
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technophebe
Male, 30-39, Europe
25 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:11:05 PM
@diylobotomy: So you're saying because you personally like to shoot for fun it doesn't matter that they're used to murder people more often than all other murder weapons put together?
This is what this whole gun control argument really boils down to:
"We're rich entitled white folk and we like having guns because they make loud noises and make us feel like real men, plus some guys wrote a law saying we could have them a couple of centuries ago and society hasn't changed at all in the meantime so it's impossible to consider that that law might be bad for our society now so we don't care that they're the leading cause of murder in the US! Yay, 'murica!" |
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 diylobotomy
Male, 18-29, Western US
1621 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:59:02 PM
@Azerphel "Guns have one purpose... Killing things."
I can honestly say that of all the time I have gone shooting - even considering all the guns we used; handguns, old rifles, shotguns and yes, even an AR15 assault rifle - not once did we kill a single thing. |
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technophebe
Male, 30-39, Europe
25 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:51:14 PM
So what you're saying is that guns are responsible for more murders than all types of murder put together, therefore are a non issue? |
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technophebe
Male, 30-39, Europe
25 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:47:32 PM
So what you're saying is that guns are responsible for more murders than all types of murder put together, therefore are a non issue? |
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marcus2
Male, 13-17, Europe
678 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:43:15 PM
Notice how it counts 'mass shootings' for the assault rifles and not 'deaths' like all the others. It doesn't specify how many people died in those mass shootings, and doesn't include suicides, or accidental deaths like all the other weapon catagories. Ever so slightly biased, no? |
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Azerphel
Male, 18-29, Western US
10 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:36:09 PM
The dificulty here is Hammers, knives, cars are all tools and have functional uses and are used 10's of millions of times a day with no bad results. Guns have one purpose... Killing things. That can be used for good or bad but only has 1 purpose. The military style weapon is especially good at killing lots of people quickly, (not good for defense but mostly offence). Keep your defensive weapons (pistols, hunting rifles, shotguns). Restrict the offensive ones. And don't give me that BS about overthrowing tyranny. Gandhi did it with food. You don't win against tyranny with weapons, they have tanks, you don't stand a chance. You win with morals, conviction and integrity. |
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 Edgarska19
Male, 18-29, Western US
1048 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:13:11 PM
Yeah, but car accidents don't get people angry at the same level, so they don't count. |
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 Johanvb
Male, 40-49, Europe
283 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:11:21 PM
It's not the guns, computergames, DUI or violence on television, it is the times we live in.
Unless we stop living by the sword we will die by it.
And unless people understand that this sword that was referred to is just a metaphor and it can't be taken away physically but only mentally harder laws ain't going to help.
Because if you look hard enough, there's always a pointy stick to be found to vent your anger. |
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 FAKEBACON
Male, 18-29, Canada
560 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:07:34 PM
People in the USA need to calm down and stop being so crazy and paranoid. |
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 mervviscious
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
1795 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:58:45 PM
idiots... |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
17474 Posts
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Saturday, January 19, 2013 12:44:38 PM
Link: Handy Guide To Dangerous Weapons [Pic] [Rate Link] - Because politicians and the MSM are looking out for YOUR safety! Right? |
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