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Concealed Carry Arrest

Hits: 9725 | Rating: (2.3) | Category: Misc. | Added by: kitteh9lives
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ruiner2000
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 20 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 8:02:01 PM
m not carrying i was asked how often i went to the range. "not as much as i'd like."
rule 1, shut the car off in accessory mode. it turns the interior lights on.
rule 2, put wallet on dashboard and place both hands on steeling wheel.
rule 3, wait till the officer is beside your car before even rolling down the window.
rule 4, never exit your vehicle unless asked. don't even take off your seat belt.
rule 5, if you have weapons in your car, even unconventional ones, offer the information up freely. for 5 years i carried (illegally) an 8 inch hunting knife under my seat and a 4 inch alligator knife in a hollowed out hole in my door.
cops love it when you tell them you have a weapon, because that means you have no intention of using it.
on the 95 in a 60 stop the closest thing i had to a weapon was a screwdriver i forgot on my passenger seat. i told them and poof 95 turned to 75 in a 60.
do your part, this won't happen to you in any traffic

paperduck
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 1706 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:58:16 PM
This guy could have gotten himself killed. When he walks up, you say "Good afternoon officer, I'd like to inform you that I have a carry permit", not jump out of the car and flip your wallet out like it's friggin quick draw.

From the cop's perspective, the car is unregistered or expired, some unknown guy has a gun you weren't informed of. If I was the cop, I'd be pretty pissed too.

Carriers need to be responsible and smart.

SilverThread
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3368 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:52:35 PM
That cop just cost his department a s#!t load of money.

A weapon in view in a holster is not brandishing. If it were then every police officer in the country is guilty of brandishing a firearm. The cop overreacted in a huge way.

The thing that chaps my ass about this scenario is that the cop immediately escalated the interaction shouting expletives and theatening homicide.

It's easy to armchair quarterback, but the way this was handled really bugs the hell out of me.

ruiner2000
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 20 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:45:33 PM
I live in Florida. I have been pulled over multiple times ranging from doing 95 in a 60, to making an "aggressive right hand turn." EVERY time I was asked the following;
1. licence, registration, and proof of insurance.
2. are there any weapons or drugs in the vehicle?
3. do you know why i pulled you over?
sometimes #2 and #3 are swapped, but never has anyone forgot to ask "are there any weapons in the vehicle" question. even on the "aggressive turn" (turning right on a red without coming to a full stop first) i was asked if there were any weapons in the car. it was only after the first deputy took my id and i set my wallet on the passenger seat that things even became a little tense. (my concealed carry permit is directly behind my driver's license) the 2nd deputy saw it through the passenger side window and all i was asked was if i was practicing my right at the time. when i said no, i'm not carrying i was asked how often i went to the ra

thelonious
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 3246 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:29:36 PM
I thought if you conceal carry and get stopped by the police the very first thing out of your mouth was supposed to be that you are packing. So now there's an officer wondering why this guy was keeping it a secret. But since it's just a gun why is the officer getting excited? I mean, if it was a cupcake I could see getting excited. But worst case here would just be loss of life. Get a drating grip, pig.

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17170 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:14:51 PM
Obviously this cop doesn't know the law and went apesh|t over it. Even a momentary revealing is not illegal, as stunmi just copy/pasted, according to the law.

jops360
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 582 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:10:19 PM
all the cop saw was a gun and a probable drunk man in possession. telling him he would shoot is the norm anymore. the cop felt threatened and reacted. they CANNOT be relaxed because this sort of thing is what could get them killed. i have even had this happen to me when i was pulled over and i had a knife clipped in my pocket. he should have told him the moment the officer talked to him. even if he did though the officer would still pull a gun in order to defend himself. it is just the type of job he has, react BEFORE the incident has a chance to escalate.

VikingGuy
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2416 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 7:02:26 PM
police overreacting and irresponsible carry on the man's part. both should get a nice lecture.

stunmi
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 13 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:39:39 PM
fl s. 790.053 (1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s. 790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.

stunmi
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 13 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:38:30 PM
they guy didnt do anything wrong, at most he would only get a $25 ticket
fl s. 790.06(1) The licensee must carry the license, together with valid identification, at all times in which the licensee is in actual possession of a concealed weapon or firearm and must display both the license and proper identification upon demand by a law enforcement officer. Violations of the provisions of this subsection shall constitute a noncriminal violation with a penalty of $25, payable to the clerk of the court.

auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
 10129 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:38:26 PM
They are in Florida. He should have concealed his weapon.

He had it on a holster, and his shirt was un-tucked, over it. That is not concealed. That is covered, and does not count.

The moment the gun was in plain view, it was no longer concealed. Florida is not an open carry state.

NOW: That being said.

The man does not have to inform the officer that he has a weapon unless the officer asks.

The officer threatened to shoot him in the back. This is a violation of rights.

The man was in the wrong, and violated state law by sloppily handling his weapon, permit or not.

The cop was rude and mistreated the man.

The judge will throw this out.

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:28:40 PM

And they wonder why we don't trust them.
"I'll shoot you in the f*ckin back! Up against the car"
Hey officer, there's your sign.

K3V1L99
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 7 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 6:15:52 PM
The officer is doing his job. If your gonna carry a firearm first and foremost show him both hands and let him know you have it. Accept the responsibilities of owning it. Don't be a clueless goof who went to a gun show. We deserve to carry a firearm, just remember in doing so that we should carry ourselves in a manner that is an adequate reflection of our choice to own and carry a gun. Paying for a gun and a permit is simple to do. But owning a firearm requires more intellect

Bravosmith
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 45 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:52:48 PM
By the way, I have a friend that is an Oakland County Deputy and he told me as soon as the plate is ran, the cop knows if the owner of the vehicle has a concealed carry permit. I guess this cop forgot to run the plate before approaching the driver of the vehicle.

Bravosmith
Male, 30-39, Midwest US
 45 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:50:24 PM
The guy should have told the officer he was armed before he got out of the van. But on the other hand, the cop didn't need to treat that guy like that.

skypirate
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 2072 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:37:35 PM
if you have ac CC you need to hand if over with your license, you are also required to aid police.

at least that was the law in my state until they said F it, let people OC, CC at their own discretion.

xfactormunky
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 116 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:36:53 PM
to be fair, while this is a pretty big over reaction, the first thing you're supposed to do when pulled over is announce to the officer that you have a gun on you, it's part of the concealed carry course

tuxkamen
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 74 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:34:18 PM
doesn't look like his carry is very well concealed

kitteh9lives
Female, 70 & Over, Eastern US
 1443 Posts
Thursday, January 17, 2013 4:33:15 PM
Link: Concealed Carry Arrest [Rate Link] - Florida Deputy Andy Cox arrests concealed carry
licensee for accidental exposure.

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