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 avail9988
Male, 18-29, Australia
 621 Posts
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Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:39:55 AM
That chick at 1:48 is so hot |
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 wildancrazy
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
138 Posts
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Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:13:02 AM
Because of a breakdown of education, the corruption of Government, and the militarising of law enforcement; We all should be on guard that what is done in OUR name is in OUR interests, not the interests of those who seek to subjugate, control and own you.
Do not be distracted by the shiny objects, the manufactured mass produced for mass consumption fear. Of your fellow Americans, of those of differing shades, of those of differing beliefs. As a whole every good person wishes for the same; Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Our greatest strength is ourselves, our greatest weapon is our constitution.
Guard this document with your very life, with it we are citizens, without..subjects..
We are the people. We are America.
We do not forget Treason, we do not forgive those who would be our betters.
Gun control is not the issue, but a distraction which furthers a agenda not to your betterment. |
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 dubtac
Male, 18-29, Southern US
21 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:04:23 PM
Amazing how many people on IAB are happy to let the government restrict your rights with TRIVIAL INTERPRETATIONS of your rights passed on by the founders of this Country.
Everyone feels the right to express freely without prosecution or penalty for opening their DICK SUCKERS spewing commentary on issues that greatly affect everyone and that is our GOD Given RIGHT.
The foolishness starts when the 2nd Amendment is stripped by TRIVIAL INTERPRETATIONS by the government.
There is alot more at stake then GUNS, people your rights are under attack and go ahead support the ones who want your fragile freedoms so they may control you.
What is to stop the Government from making TRIVIAL INTERPRETATIONS taking your PRECIOUS 1ST Amendment so you can't post anymore foolishness against the powers to be?
Is that what it will take for you to put your foot down and fight the oppression and actually have to pay the ultimate price for liberty?
The Government is here to serve you NOT |
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 SavageChef
Female, 50-59, Western US
420 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:59:29 PM
1929? I'm guessing that would be shootings by gangsters, against gangsters, not mentally ill teens shooting little children. |
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 8jdb28jdb2
Male, 30-39, Canada
69 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:18:17 PM
This is just dumb. How can you equate demographic changes and immorally high incarceration rates with guns being okay? The lethality and the ease of access are the issues, not living in the movie 'red dawn'. Is America the land of nonsensical arguments? Imo if your not a member of a militia, then you have no right to your gun. |
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 5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16973 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:17:06 PM
@patchy:
#2 The anti-gun lobby, THAT'S who is constantly saying it!
"We must make schools safer" which implies they are becoming "more dangerous". If the CURRENT laws already make schools safe, why change them?
#3) Because schools are where the unarmed victems are. "gun free zones". John Dillenger's reason for bank robbery, remember?
#4) Yes, the anti-gun lobby. They've been saying for 50+ years that more guns = more crime & more laws = less crime. But has it once been true in 50 years? NOPE!
5) "Hey, that law was useless, and cost a fortune."
"Wow! What a great law! Lets make more just like that!"
(two Democrats talking)
School shootings are UP in the USA @patchy? Your source 'svp'? |
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SpermNinja81
Male, 30-39, Australia
458 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:07:35 PM
Note the paper target on the wall behind the presenter. A completely objective view? I don't think so. If both sides of the argument can produce charts and statistics to support their claims, then who is right? It's clear to me that information is being manipulated somewhere, and yes, The pro-control side is obviously guilty of this too. |
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 auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:00:59 PM
"if at first you don't succeed, f*ck it, right?"
Doing the same thing over and over doesn't fix it. |
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 patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
5283 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:03:46 PM
Well, ReasonTV has always had an anti-regulation position, that's nothing new. Doesn't necessarily negate their points, but I'm not sure what they were supposed to be.
1)Violent crime and gun crime are lowering? Ignoratio elenchi, the number of school shootings hasn't declined, so what's the point?
2)That there aren't more shootings? I don't know who's saying there is, but that's not the point, the point should be to lower it.
3)Schools are safer? Yet there still isn't a DECREASE in school shootings. So again what's the point?
4)More guns? Is someone saying that more guns should mean more school shootings? If your numbers are 81/100 or 88/100 I think the saturation of guns is so high that increasing it might not make a big difference, but I don't know what correlation they are trying to get at here.
5)Assault weapon ban ineffective? Well at least this one makes sense and may even be correct. But if at first you don't succeed, f*ck it, right? |
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auburnjunky
Male, 30-39, Southern US
8695 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 7:15:36 PM
@nettech:
New Jersey is a may-issue state.
Read up on it.
The only places that do not allow any type of gun, is Illinois, and DC. Ironically, DC and Chicago are two of the wost cities in the US when it comes to gun crimes. |
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 markust123
Male, 40-49, Western US
3783 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:53:14 PM
Funny how the pro-gun side only sees fear being manufactured on the gun-controll side. And the gun-controll side only sees fear being manufactured on the pro-gun side. Both sides are using fear to get their point across. There can't be a sensible conversation until people admit this topic is being used to divide people. |
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nettech98
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
834 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:45:34 PM
Right to concealed carry in NJ??? You wish! If that fact is wrong what else is?? |
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 CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
14374 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 5:18:38 PM
wildancrazy: I second your statement.
Good post Fancylad. |
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 turdburglar
Male, 30-39, Western US
1821 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:31:24 PM
That is NOT what I expected from a fancylad post. |
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 skypirate
Male, 18-29, Western US
1786 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:24:05 PM
and another horrific shooting avoided today in new york Link
at least these people have their heads on straight |
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 CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
1198 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:19:42 PM
I for one am appalled! If I wanted political leaders that governed with logic and reason as opposed to hysteria and an unending outlook towards our impending doom... um, wait- I think I see the problem here. |
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wildancrazy
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
138 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 4:01:57 PM
This issue, 'gun control', is not about politicians thinking with their hearts, but fooling you with yours. Manufactured fear in the guise of action. |
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 DromEd
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
913 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:53:24 PM
Waits for the typical anti-gun crowd to chime in trying to refute simple facts or claim they don't matter anyway. |
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5Cats
Male, 40-49, Canada
16973 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:48:45 PM
Nice! keep it short, keep it simple!
Canada spent billions on "long rifle registration" (pistols have been registered since 1936, eh?) BILLIONS and there was nothing to show for it!
Not one crime prevented.
Not one crime solved.
Billions spent on nothing = "gun control"?
How about doing things that actually work? Not things which have failed before, failed elsewhere and continue to fail?
1929 Mass killings = Prohibition, Al Capone, gangsters... fyi... see how well that worked? SUGAR was a "controlled substance" in order to "fight bootlegging". |
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 Zeegrr60
Male, 40-49, Eastern US
1514 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:44:30 PM
That was useless...next. |
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 whodat6484
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
2263 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:36:33 PM
He's 100% right. Think with your head and don't let your heart/emotions cloud your judgement. That's the problem. |
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 JuggaloReign
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
52 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:33:28 PM
fancylad posted a well rounded, accurate, and reasonable video about firearms in the US....Whaaaaa? |
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rosieodonnel
Male, 18-29, Western US
27 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:29:04 PM
I don't think any of us asked about these things. |
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 fancylad
Male, 30-39, Western US
2512 Posts
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013 3:26:52 PM
Link: 5 Facts About Guns, Schools, & Violence [Rate Link] - This clips answers A LOT of questions regarding gun control that have been floated around the I-A-B forums. |
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