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Piers Morgan's Statistics Get Reality Checked

Hits: 8294 | Rating: (2.6) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: CrakrJak
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FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:14:45 AM
This chart is pretty interesting.

Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
 506 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:10:34 AM
@Andrew155, the UK idea of a violent crime and South America's differ somewhat but as always taking headline figures and thinking you can compare them without checking in more detail is daft. Starting by asking does this make sense is a good starting point.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:00:57 AM
@Fwoggie2

Record gun sales and over 100,000 new NRA members in the last 18 or so days tells me politicians aren't listening. I'm sure your more in touch with what we want though being from the UK.....

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5794 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:57:59 AM
okay- Piers Morgan is a twat. Did you know that in the UK being spat upon by Dappy is a violent crime? Also being pushed- lightly? It is an assault to shout at someone.. these stats have a lot to do with how crime is reported and recorded. The UK has not ever had a gun culture and gun laws are very tight now- but have not been lax since well before I can remember so very few people here will have seen a gun, those who did national service will have done, but since then they are rare. It is pretty damn safe here, despite what you read in the Mail- which is the most terrible lying rag out...

skytz1337
Male, 18-29, Europe
 690 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:55:39 AM
what i noticed was that he "forgot" to mention the overall crime rate in the US.
And what does violent crime mean anyway?
If a guy comes into a shop with a gun and says : "gimme all your money or die!" is that considered a non violent crime because nobody got hurt?
Also..if someone tries to steal your wallet and he punches you..or something..that's considered a violent crime because someone got hurt.
It makes sense that the UK would have a higher "violent" crime rate because someone might beat you when he steals something from you...but at least you wont be shot .

wheelybin25
Male, 40-49, Europe
 22 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:52:16 AM
Screw the stats - any douche can twist them to prove an argument. They're like the bible in that respect. The important thing is that the US promises to NEVER let Morgan back in the UK. Do you know how long it took us to get rid of the smarmy fecker?

dm2754
Male, 40-49, Western US
 3122 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:50:44 AM
i have been tell you that for yaers

FoolsPrussia
Male, 30-39, Western US
 3399 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:50:32 AM
@5Cats, do you know how many people live in North Dakota? It's almost impossible to FIND someone to shoot.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25759 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:49:25 AM
North Dakota has strong 2nd amendment laws and lots of people own guns.
Must lead to tons of "gun murders" right?

9 murders: 4 with guns, 4 with knives 1 other.
Compare to the RATE of gun murder in "strict" places? It's very low indeed.

Big, complex Table of Data

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25759 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:44:08 AM
Also: This Chart Which shows black Americans are over half of those murdered, but only 14% (apx) of the population. They're also in the majority for being the murderers too.

There are many problems in the USA, but "banning guns" will solve exactly ZERO of them.

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:44:02 AM
And please do not cite the daily mail, that's like citing the national enquirer as a source of facts-you-can-rely-on. Please don't believe that crap.

Fwoggie2
Male, 30-39, Europe
 1754 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:42:53 AM
His stats aside - McGovern1981 - I'm not sure the majority do strongly disagree with this agenda though.

5Cats
Male, 50-59, Canada
 25759 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:36:58 AM
Alex Jones is a "nutter" who Morgan brought on his show to deliberatly cause a fuss.

It's Geraldo Rivera all over again! Minus the flying chair.

Morgan got "schooled" by Ben Shapiro, we should put THAT video up, eh?
Fair is fair.

Cue the Euro-crybabies claiming "violence isn't violence"...

thenedman
Male, 18-29, Europe
 232 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:35:37 AM
P.S Piers is a dick there is no question about this.

thenedman
Male, 18-29, Europe
 232 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:34:35 AM
For the last time we classify violent crime differently then everywhere else. Yes it may still be very high but can news organisations please stop using that number.

Also he didn't even get our population right, we even had a census in 2011.

freddyferret
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 11734 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:33:20 AM
Numbers and stats are so reliable.

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:31:16 AM
Finker, they compared it to South Africa.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1196941/The-violent-country-Europe-Britain-worse-South-Africa-U-S.html

shiftyplus1
Male, 18-29, Southern US
 312 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:30:36 AM
mmmmmm....numbers......

Andrew155
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2564 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:29:30 AM
I would also add that the UK murder rate did not fall after the gun ban.

If you compare British murder rates to American murder rates over the past 200 years, the UK has always had a much lower murder rate. For most of that time, the two places had rather similar gun laws.

Enough with the one-dimensional analysis, people.

Matwix_2004
Male, 18-29, Europe
 2105 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:28:32 AM
"FBI stats prove Piers is a lying douchebag."
You really needed statistics to do that?

Finker
Male, 40-49, Europe
 506 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:27:15 AM
I have no love of Piers but only comparing the UK with other EU countries seems a bit odd. Why not compare with one of the less violent countries in the EU then if it is about facts rather than bias. Both sides are as bad at playing games in this argument. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.

McGovern1981
Male, 30-39, Eastern US
 13456 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:26:28 AM
Lets not let facts get in the way of pushing an absurd agenda that the majority strongly disagrees with!

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:24:56 AM

I've never understood why Piers is on CNN and not FOX.

CaptKangaroo
Male, 50-59, Southern US
 2075 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:24:07 AM
Stating that the statistics and definitions are all skewed, MacMuffin rants in 3... 2... 1...

CrakrJak
Male, 40-49, Midwest US
 17174 Posts
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:08:07 AM
Link: Piers Morgan's Statistics Get Reality Checked [Rate Link] - FBI stats prove Piers is a lying douchebag.

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