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A Horrifying Thing Happened In Ohio

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SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:59:51 AM
cont. I never asked to look like I was carved out of marble circa 400 B.C.

I was just born that way. But you clearly need to work out for your buddies. Which is fine, but I exposed you. You're absolutely vapid.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:58:38 AM
To be perfectly honest, I could just merely look that up really fast and get an idea.

Please, feel free to do so and I will correct you. If you prefer, why don't you pose a challenge for me to answer regarding weightlifting? I'd be happy to answer.

I've actually never demonstrated I am stupid.

Surely you don't think that I consider you stupid over a simple grammatical error. I consider you to be stupid because, even when faced with contradictory evidence, you fail to see the logical errors you committed.

Can you show me how that sentence I used was a run-on?

There's that ADHD afterall; that was several pages ago! Anyways, I'll be happy to in the next post. I am out of space here.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:56:46 AM
Having an argument on the internet with google is bad. I could just lie and look anything up you ask me to and put it into my own words. You know about some squats and a few techniques to lift crap off of the ground and put it back down. I'm sorry I do not know the terminology for picking **** up and putting it down. I never found it important to know that aglets are the ends of my shoelaces either, but I know that.

You're just being pedantic and not demonstrating anything but that. You're stupid if anything.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:54:07 AM
"I doubt this; explain to me the difference between oly style squats and power style squats."

To be perfectly honest, I could just merely look that up really fast and get an idea. I've squatted before. I don't know names for things to be honest. I just know what things look like.

"I assume that you are stupid because, up to this point, you've demonstrated so."

I've actually never demonstrated I am stupid. If you would like to point out where then please go ahead and do it, but one isn't stupid because of a grammatical error. One is stupid because they leave their baby in a washing machine, or one is stupid because they let their pitbull loose through a store...etc. Stupidity is fairly severe.

"Says the person on an internet forum claiming to have 'god-like genetics for building muscle'."

They are literally godlike because I do not move around much and have muscles that most wish they had. It's purely genetic. I

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:51:26 AM
"Did you really just use a run-on sentence while attempting to convey your superior ability within the English language?

Really?"

Can you show me how that sentence I used was a run-on? Because you never pointed out exactly why. You just 'said' something and demonstrated 'nothing'. I don't care about being wrong. I just want to know why you think I was wrong, and where. I am pretty sure it could have been broken up into sentences but I used all the conjunctions I thought necessary to keep it a complete thought because it was one.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:48:33 AM
I'm not as stupid as I let on about weight-lifting

I doubt this; explain to me the difference between oly style squats and power style squats.

You assume I am stupid because it would help your pitiful little ego.

I assume that you are stupid because, up to this point, you've demonstrated so.

You gladly did it because you have an ego problem.

Says the person on an internet forum claiming to have "god-like genetics for building muscle".


HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:45:45 AM
If you were to say you can make a special compound you would not say you're an authority on chemistry would you?

Of course not; I would claim that I am an expert in making that compound.

This entire debate started when you challenged me to prove that I was well informed about weightlifting. I laughed at that since I am a competing weightlifter. The challenge was not "are you an expert in the field of biochemistry or bio-mechanics". I am an expert in neither of those.

However, relative to most fitness trainers, regular Joe's at the gym, and laymen, then yes - I am an expert in weightlifting. I have been trained extensively in the field and have competed in official events. In what other manner can I be an expert in weightlifting?

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:44:50 AM
You're clearly just a bad bull**** artist. I see through this kind of crap on a daily basis. I just wanted you to expose yourself. That's all. You gladly did it because you have an ego problem.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:42:53 AM
"
We are all at least partially ignorant of all subjects that are so broad. In this case, while I am certainly ignorant of some facets of weightlifting, you are considerably more ignorant about the entire topic than I.

Therefore, in this context, if an expert were to be decided between the two of us, surely it would be me. "

I feign a considerable amount of ignorance just to amuse myself. I'm not as stupid as I let on about weight-lifting, and I can tell I've done it longer than you have and from a younger age. You assume I am stupid because it would help your pitiful little ego. It's half of the reason why you probably work out in the first place--just to impress a bunch of dudes in a gym. Who cares? I do it for myself. Not for the ladies. Not for the men. For myself. You need a little crew of guys to help get you out there.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:40:16 AM
"You suggest that, if a person does not know 100% of the information about a specific subject, then they are no more capable to provide advice than a person who knows nothing. I hope you now see the error of your logic."

I'm actually suggesting that if you only know one part of the body and not the rest then you really aren't in any position to act like you know much of anything. If you were to say you can make a special compound you would not say you're an authority on chemistry would you? Of course not. You're not an authority on weight-lifting and you never were or will be until you learn more about the body. That's all.

But to your NFL argument...if you're assuming that one has no knowledge of football then yeah the NFL lineman may have some insight. But if we both have watched quarterbacks and gotten a vicarious understanding of it then we're fairly equal in that regard.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:35:28 AM
At least we're both ignorant

We are all at least partially ignorant of all subjects that are so broad. In this case, while I am certainly ignorant of some facets of weightlifting, you are considerably more ignorant about the entire topic than I.

Therefore, in this context, if an expert were to be decided between the two of us, surely it would be me.

But, I'd like to study bio-mechanics further before I commit to some plan that may be ill-conceived because of anecdotal or cherry-picked results.

HIIT training has been extensively reviewed and researched by the scientific community. Via Google, you should be able to find several studies that reinforce my suggestions.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:32:10 AM
Then you truly are no authority, on anything we've discussed so far. :(

My friend, that is some truely awful logic you are using. You suggest that, if a person does not know 100% of the information about a specific subject, then they are no more capable to provide advice than a person who knows nothing. I hope you now see the error of your logic.

According to your logic, an NFL linemen and you are of equal intelligence regarding quarterbacking. Obviously this is false.

You've basically told me what works for you, but you decidedly know nothing about the body as a whole or seem perturbed that you don't know much.

I know quite a bit about weightlifting and have learned it from experience. Admittedly, I know very little about "weightlifting with asthma". Therefore, I concede that I am as ignorant about "weightlifting with asthma" as you are.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:26:58 AM
Where do you live where they thatch rooves? I live on Long Island. It's the pseudopeninsula of NY. It's basically a suburban hell, or mansions galore. Sometimes right next to each other which is very funny to get a grasp of the disparity. And by funny I mean ****ed up.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 10:24:47 AM
Then you truly are no authority, on anything we've discussed so far. :(

So much for demonstrating knowledge; you've demonstrated a diminutive acumen. You barely know about the body, but yet work out. You do realize that some people are born with an innate ability to build fat/muscle. We have to work with the chemistry we have been given and nothing else. You've basically told me what works for you, but you decidedly know nothing about the body as a whole or seem perturbed that you don't know much.

At least we're both ignorant. But you do know something about working out at least. But, I'd like to study bio-mechanics further before I commit to some plan that may be ill-conceived because of anecdotal or cherry-picked results.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5847 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:56:25 AM
Erm- okay- language barrier, Thatching roofs. You run up and down a ladder with bundles of straw all day long. gues you don't have much tatched roofing where you live. It is a bugger to insure I will say and expensive...

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:55:10 AM
@SPrinkZ

I have asthma. What could I do to increase my respiration?

This I don't have an answer for as I am not qualified by any means to give you a medical answer. I would ask your doctor what can be done.

I am not a trainer and all of my recommendations are based on my own experiences or the experiences of people I trust.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:48:16 AM
I used to thatch my lawn. God that was fairly brutal. LOL

I used to ride my bike so long as it was within 10 miles of me. I used to do 30 miles a day. I was in relatively good shape, but I keep worrying about my heart. Heart attacks as I've witnessed are very painful events where you scream and writhing around a lot and then die. I'd prefer to avoid that death. Alzheimer's disease looks more interesting to me given that you forget that you're even dying or why you care. I've watched both.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5847 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:45:23 AM
Get rid of your car, get a bike. Amazing how fit you become when you do things physically because you have to. Chop wood for fires, or at least lug it home, get a rucksack for your shopping... Dig your garden, grow your own veg..... cannot recommend this stuff highly enough. OR train to be a thatcher. I do know two thatchers who are not ripped - but both could probably wrestle cars... but most are in amazing shape....

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:42:16 AM
Follow-up question:

I have asthma. What could I do to increase my respiration? I stopped smoking cigarettes months ago. I had a bad stint for a little while which was really stupid. The heart and the lungs are pretty much hand and glove. That's why they are finding links between asthma and heart disease. I am pretty sure the reason why my mother died was because of smoking/overeating. My father just overate until the point of morbid obesity (+35 bmi).

I see it may not be pertinent to eat on a certain schedule [I doubt the brain/body works on a perfect clock] but I feel that it would be useful to restrict my diet to just a few things. I don't care about flavor. I like to eat everything and anything, and I'm more concerned with physical/intellectual output than pleasure seeking through indulging on food. Even being on this computer for this long is ridiculous in my mind, and I'm often ashamed of the amount of time I do spend reading and not doing.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:25:28 AM
But, aren't most of the programs like 'insanity' 'p90x' etc...aren't they doing something similar? I'm not concerned about the pain of any workout

More or less. Those programs focus on bodyweight excercises so they won't necessarily give you the same physical changes that HIIT does. HIIT is nice because it is a happy medium between circuit training like those programs, and weight-lifting.

You should keep in mind that weight-lifting provides you with physical advantages other than simple strength gains. You gain endurance, bone density, flexibility, etc. too. I'm sure those gains happen with P90x, I just have a hard time imagining that they are comparable to HIIT.

HumanAction
Male, 18-29, Midwest US
 2353 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:22:33 AM
Which is basically just overeating and highly saturated fats and other stuff that used to be hard to come by in our natural environment.

Obesity is the only epidemic in which we know the cause in 100% of cases: taking in excess calories. Now, that isn't to deny that there are conditions that make it very difficult to expend calories. However, it's a simple fact that you cannot become obese without an excessive calorie intake relative to your own expenditure.

With this is mind, it becomes a matter of nutrional value per calories consumed. Obviously, we want to maximize this as often as possible. I just don't personally think it is worth the effort to sit down, plan it out, and regulate it.

Some people work differently though. In my experience, I have been able to not care. However, I know some bodybuilders (I'm not a bodybuilder) who keep track of everything.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:08:16 AM
HIIT looks good for cardiovascular health indeed. But, aren't most of the programs like 'insanity' 'p90x' etc...aren't they doing something similar? I'm not concerned about the pain of any workout. I am just worried about long-term damage. I enjoy the throbbing ache after a good workout.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:06:49 AM
I am literally hungry nearly every second/minute of the day. I could eat nonstop if I wanted to, and I have a colon that can crap it out as much as I want to. I don't think it's useful for everyone to eat whenever they want. That's why we have this 'epidemic' of obesity. Which is basically just overeating and highly saturated fats and other stuff that used to be hard to come by in our natural environment.

People used to have to put in a lot of effort to get food. Now it's a stroll to the supermarket. I think exercise is very important, but we evolved to deal with particular foods, and probably certain ranges of chemicals. Anything extra or less is not good for us. We need just the right amount lest we become fat, or develop diseases from over intake, or become too thin or frail.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2256 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 9:04:28 AM
"I don't focus on it or plan it out. I tend to believe that you should eat when you are hungry (~5 times a day) and should not eat when you are not hungry. Of course, you should eat healthy foods and cut out the unhealthy ones as much as possible, but that does not mean that you can't have a little bit of gelato or pizza once or twice a week.

Regarding heart health, I hear great things about HIIT. "

Yeah, but aren't we so frequently hungry because we're still using a Cro-magnon body, and our ancestors needed to be constantly hungry so they would be in a nigh perpetual look for food? Which usually equated to about...for every 1 hour of hunting/gathering you gain about 2 hours of energy. Basically we netted nothing.

I think that eating when one is hungry isn't very useful. Eating until one is full isn't useful either; calorie restriction is good. We get thirsty because we're already dehydrated. You're revealing to me that we know different things.

patchgrabber
Male, 30-39, Canada
 5718 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 8:58:22 AM
Appalled is adequate.

Funny, because it wasn't adequate a page or so ago. But maybe that's just because I disagreed with you and you felt the need to nitpick a single word in place of a meaningful rebuttal, which I can only assume was absent.

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