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A Horrifying Thing Happened In Ohio

Hits: 15137 | Rating: (3.0) | Category: News & Politics | Added by: CaptKangaroo
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SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:29:14 AM
Madduck makes the most points...but no MAN is going to agree with her. Rape happens. Gotta avoid it. That's how the world is.

Just soooo stupid. Just...so obtuse, and myopic that it depresses me to share a penis with you morons. You screw up our world more often than not and then blame the victim for it. It's disgusting.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:27:13 AM
Grendel:

Men walk home hammered every night and don't get raped. Women seem to be the target in that scenario. How would you like if people told you that you can never run in public (black people)? Or that you can never wear something racy at night (women)? It seems like white men have so many privleges that they forget they are the ones dealing out most of these punishing realities in the first place. Men rape women--and seldomly women rape men. Men raping women is so damn common across the globe for a reason. Like I said earlier it is a highly survivable and adaptable trait given that it's a way to hijack someone's genes without courting them or earning their trust. It makes sense to rape from an evolutionary perspective the same way it makes sense to be individualistic in certain cultures as well.

We need to get to the root cause of it. It doesn't have to exist. Rape is not necessary for this world. If you disagree, then tell me why.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:23:36 AM
"The world for which you wish is not attainable."

Says the almighty keyboard warrior. What is the point of being here if we are not striving toward a society that can leave its doors open, and children can play with one another without prejudice or fear?

If we can never build that world--then I invite our mutual destruction. We never deserved a place on this earth if we cannot assure our mutual compassion.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:21:58 AM
I really mean no offense when I say it too. You just sound like you're trying to 'get by' in life. Instead of being an actual participant in life you just let it all roll by...your GF's rape...her stalker...etc. Just let society fix it, or not. That is just deplorable in my eyes, but I come from a different place.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:20:55 AM
@Listpoos

You sound like a big...ugh. You sound pathetic. No offense. If someone was stalking my GF, I'd probably go handle the person myself. That's me. I don't care about jail time. Don't threaten who I love. In real life cops come to CLEAN UP MESSES--not stop them. I learned that young enough.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:19:24 AM
@Listypoos

No offense, but she's letting an imaginary figure control her habits of moving around in the world now because ONE DAY. A PARTICULAR INCIDENT lead her to believe that from now on she has to 'protect' herself. But that just makes her look/feel stupid. If we get robbed we get justice. If we get beat up, we get justice. If we get raped, we just get raped forever. What the f*ck?

If you knew who ruined her heart like that, what would you do? Just tell her to keep making sure she can get a ride home, and always needs a body-guard?? Seriously? Why not kill the bastards who do this in the first place. Lock them up. Throw away the key. None of them deserve to be here. I don't want to see more girls f*cked up from someone's penis, or even a woman who wants to force sex on others. F*ck them too. It's an ancient and very special pathway that often gets corrupted by downright evil people.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 3:15:14 AM
There are easy tests for lying. Children have been tested for lying at young ages--children who do lie are found to have higher IQs.

You really must believe that humans are magic or something. It's never hard to see in hindsight why a person raped/killed...because no one was ever paying attention in the first place.

You keep swinging around the word ignorant like it means anything. Your ad hominems are just exposing your lack of thought. Don't waste my time anymore with your asinine posting and your fantasy views that people are magic or some bullpoo. Rapists are fairly obvious in their language and actions toward women. Some even BRAG about it to other men. What about those guys? They should be ENDED.

madduck
Female, 50-59, Europe
 5418 Posts
Monday, January 14, 2013 12:15:34 AM
I think a lot of you are missing the point. The 'apology for rape' is encoded in our language. calling a woman a pretty little thing demeans her, calling gay men fairies demeans them- subtle- very subtle. Put a longer skirt on, wear less make up- you will give men the wrong idea comes under the same banner. Don't walk there is the same thing- the implication is that 'bad men' have possession of an area and because they 'own' it we should avoid it. This implies they have some kind of right to do that- if an area is dangerous then every decent human should make a point of walking there ALL THE TIME- because by speaking in this way you imply that the world is okay with a situation. Things can change- your great grandfathers thought women too feeble minded to vote and that an education could drive then mad..... so they stopped them doing those things ' for their own protection' ....

Gerry1of1
Male, 50-59, Western US
 33910 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:55:59 PM


bedbugsbite,
"Women should not have to tip-toe through life in order to 'reduce her risk' of being assaulted"

Why not? I'm a man and I have to tip-toe.
There are some dangerous parts of town I "tip-toe" around.
There are loud mouth, aggressive drunks looking for a fight that I "tip-toe" around.
There ARE dangers in life and wishful thinking that you shouldn't have to be cautious is just asking to be a victim.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4369 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 7:11:43 PM
bedbugsbite-"step away from blaming the victims of sexual abuse"

Teaching your daughters how to be carefull is NOT 'blaming the victims'.

bedbugsbite-" raise a generation of men who respect both men and women."

While you're at it, solve world hunger, give peace a chance, coexist, and make every day a rainbow and give everyone a unicorn.

The world for which you wish is not attainable.

bedbugsbite-"Women should not have to tip-toe through life in order to 'reduce her risk' of being assaulted"

You're right. No one's dissagreeing with you. They SHOULD not have to.

The REALITY (and we have to deal with reality) is that both MEN & WOMEN do.

A person SHOULD be able to stand in the middle of a Klan Rally with Black Panther t-shirt on, or conversly stand in a Black Panther gathering with a White Power t-shirt on, and not be harrassed.

The REALITY is that neither is exactly a good

bedbugsbite
Female, 18-29, Canada
 41 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:53:57 PM
I agree that we need to teach our sons to respect women rather than telling our daughters to live their lives based on the fear that a man may sexually assault her if she wears certain clothing, goes certain places, or behaves in a certain manner. We need to step away from blaming the victims of sexual abuse and hope to raise a generation of men who respect both men and women. Women should not have to tip-toe through life in order to 'reduce her risk' of being assaulted.

swiftkeys
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 481 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 5:07:27 PM
Lol no one actually reads RooshV

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2570 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:10:54 PM
she has also reminded me of another similar circumstance... we had a stalker for a while, an ex girlfriend of mine who was a total drating nutter. In the end after going through the police, we did several things roughly in this order changed our mobile phone numbers, changed home phone number, i changed jobs, we then moved house to a different county.

we were at risk and we reduced it... if you get nasty threatening messages on your mobile off an ex would you not think of changing the number? Thousands change their number every day for similar reasons, we're not the only ones.

bad things happen... no, they're not right..no it's not fair... yes, it's the fault of the perp. but you do what you can to reduce the risk of it happening to you - if you are sensible that is.

Listypoos
Male, 30-39, Europe
 2570 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 3:02:37 PM
"Swimming is a choice. Does no one seem to understand that rape is very hard to draw an analogy to? Here is a good analogy for rape: "

but you can manage it?

btw...on the subject of reducing your risk and you saying that's not the point... my girlfriend disagrees and says you are wrong. Just her opinion that.. but as you said, she should know a bit better than you seeing as she's one who has been unlucky enough - did it change her? of course it did... and one of the ways it changed her was to be careful - doesn't matter if we all agree rape is horrible, we do... just that some of us think it's also wise to reduce your risk factors - she reduced hers in many ways - like leaving home at 16 away from the person who'd done it.

Wayoldman
Male, 50-59, Midwest US
 66 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:56:36 PM
He missed one fact or left it out for a reason. Seems one of the boys on the team and accused of the rape, mother is the local prosecuting attorney and she is the reason the sheriff isn't investigating it.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4369 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:45:58 PM
SPrinkZ-"Isn't it easy to see who is going to do it, and who isn't?"

No, it's not. That you think it does further demonstrates your ignorance.

SPrinkZ-"We have a psychopathy test--why not a rapist test?"

First, such a test (to my knowledge) does not exist. Feel freeo to develop one. But it must be 100% accurate (even the Hare Psychopathy Test is ambiguous at best).

Anything less than 100% accurate will mean either it's meaningless, or you will be treading on the rights and freedoms of innocent people.

SPrinkZ-"I don't think it can be that hard to find 'most' rapists."

It woud appear you don't think, at all.

Are you planning on such testing for 100% of the Population? What else do you want to test for? Lying? Murder? Cheating on Math Tests?

You want to find a rapist? Look in the mirror, that's the only one you can be 90% sure of one way or the other.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:30:26 PM
We have a psychopathy test--why not a rapist test? Just never release the method and find a good way to identify possible rapists/unempathetic people. You have to be fairly cruel to keep penetrating someone who is crying for their mother and begging for you to stop. I don't think it can be that hard to find 'most' rapists.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 12:00:52 PM
How do we stop it? Isn't it easy to see who is going to do it, and who isn't? Watch the way they talk about girls, and people. If they talk about girls like they do pets and objects...well...then what are we going to do?

By the way, my theory is that it's endemic to our species because it's a highly adaptive trait. By purging their right to reproduce through castration or something like that we may ween ourselves off of this crap once and for all. Most rapists don't even know they are raping. Some have full knowledge of what they are doing and doing it anyway--those type are in it for the control/taboo aspect. That is the generic criminal. The rapist is another animal all together: he's enticed by weakness/innocence. We have a lolita culture. Trust me. You haven't been around enough or seen enough if you think we aren't making this EASY to do.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4369 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:24:00 AM
SPrinkZ-"kick the crap out of any guy you see raping a girl"

Okay, you didn't prevent that rape. Try again.

SPrinkZ-"you're going to say I am being crazy"

Nope, just ignorant.

SPrinkZ-"But, why should a little girl have her entire soul destroyed so a man can get a little sexual gratification for a little while?SPrinkZ-"

She shouldn't. That doesn't stop it from occuring, either.

SPrinkZ-"I say we put a bullet in him, but that's just me."

I agree, but you still did not stop the rape. Nor (if you listen to liberal arguments on capital punishment) are you deterring future rapists.

How do you stop a rape from occuring? Are YOU going to say, 'He will be a rapist. Kill Him.'

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:05:54 AM
The real problem is this: we have a bystander culture. People too often will walk past someone dying just because they have to get to work on time. The saddest thing is that this seriously happens.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:04:36 AM
But I guess you're going to say I am being crazy. But, why should a little girl have her entire soul destroyed so a man can get a little sexual gratification for a little while? She's ruined. She'll never look at men, or life the same. She may never even love a man, and may become gay because of it.

What do we do about that? He killed something and gets away with 2-3 years, or maybe never gets caught at all. I say we put a bullet in him, but that's just me. You risk creating new life at the expense of another, then you should also be able to risk dying. I see no difference between a burglar getting shot in the face and a rapist getting shot in the face. You invaded something personal and you were punished.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:02:21 AM
My first plan to stop it is to do this: teach boys to kick the crap out of any guy you see raping a girl. Since the incentive to rape is now lessened severly I'd like to see how many rapists we have. Imagine if every boy in that room turned and beat the living hell out of that boy and helped her to safety instead of laughing about it. Different story, right?

We need to stop punishing people who come home to their son/daughter being raped who take it upon themselves to deliver some real justice. People who rape take a risk of dying since they are giving the other person a risk of their STDs and a risk of impregnating them. I feel the risks should be as such--if you rape you die. Period.

SPrinkZ
Male, 18-29, Eastern US
 2244 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 11:00:46 AM
We can't fly...wrong...
We can't go to the moon...wrong...
We can't exceed the sound barrier...wrong...
We can't stop men from raping and killing each other...also COMPLETELY WRONG.

If you examined the lives of most rapists/murderers you'd find that most are forged inside of a bad situation/bad home. Only some of them are just predisposed to being downright evil.

I would warn my children with the disclaimer that these people don't need to exist forever. Just giving rape a hand waive because it's been around forever doesn't mean sh*t to me.

Not every thief is a thief because they want more more more. Some just want to eat food, and not die. Circumstances dictate a lot of things, but rape is never acceptable unless it's to repopulate the earth and we have no way to do that. I think that's the only circumstance where forcibly donating sperm could be seen as acceptable--but only from a utilitarian point of view, and not from a humanist one.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4369 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:57:53 AM
SPrinkZ-"Stop the rape culture all together."

Okay, besides laws, prison sentences, the death sentence (my personal preference), what do you plan to do to stop 'the rape culture'.

While you're at it, tell us what you do to stop the 'murder culture', the 'mugger culture', the 'burgler culture' and every other 'culture' that has been part of the human condition since Og, Oop & Leroy raided neighboring villages to pull Ayla, Oga and Blondie by their hair back to their caves?

The REALITY is that there are asswipes amongst us. Always have been, always will be.

Failing to teach your children how to prepare themselves for that because it might hurt their little feelings is ignorant at best, and criminally negligent at the worst.

MeGrendel
Male, 40-49, Southern US
 4369 Posts
Sunday, January 13, 2013 10:56:12 AM
SPrinkZ-"It can go away."

Tell us your solution, numbnuts.

SPrinkZ-"There is a way to fix any problem."

If you belileve that, you're more ignorant than you've been leading on to.

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